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Jackson Close Video

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Created by Piros > 9 months ago, 21 Apr 2013
Piros
QLD, 7235 posts
21 Apr 2013 10:58PM
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This is Jacksons first surf on the one of the new JP stock boards the 8-0 x 27 x 4 - 95 litres. Jackson weighs in at just under 90 kegs and was really comfortable in the lumpy conditions.

Check out the first wave in the clip , it was his first wave on the board, pretty amazing. Jackson scored the first 8-0 & the new 8-2 x 29 x 4-1/4 101 litre pro edition Stock boards into Australia. They'll be available for a demo in Surf FX early July.



thePup
13831 posts
21 Apr 2013 9:11PM
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BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO - ENCORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was probably the best Vid I've seen on Seabreeze (no insult to all other froffers here) ... a ripping display of control and style big skill .... how good was that first wave ride avoiding all that crowd and smashing it to pieces absolutely shredded it
Thankyou Rob Thankyou mate .... big fan of Jacko Close from way back anyway .....WOW

SupaTrooper
QLD, 243 posts
21 Apr 2013 11:13PM
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Awsome control in crowded conditions.

divaldo
SA, 2878 posts
21 Apr 2013 10:58PM
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That's a very crowded line up, nice supin

OG SUP
VIC, 3516 posts
21 Apr 2013 11:37PM
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Great Vid Rob,

Jackson ripping as usual, exceptional skill in that traffic and big moves at the same time.

Smokin.

Phill

momasfolly
VIC, 237 posts
22 Apr 2013 12:23AM
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Awwweee summmm. Wow, huge traffic, huge skill tiny board!

surfinJ
674 posts
22 Apr 2013 4:29AM
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Yea, that is some crazy surfing.

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
22 Apr 2013 7:58AM
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I take back every thing ive said about short sups Lets hope we get waves like that for the Aussie titlesI want to be able to surf like that when i grow up

macs
NSW, 78 posts
22 Apr 2013 9:12AM
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great surfing.....great video clip....

Casso
NSW, 3776 posts
22 Apr 2013 9:19AM
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Good stuff Jacko and Piros. That's a tricky volume to weight ratio.

micksmith
VIC, 1701 posts
22 Apr 2013 9:23AM
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Full credit due.
I bet there was some under the breath verbalising going on, maybe even some audible

Piros
QLD, 7235 posts
22 Apr 2013 9:30AM
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micksmith said...
Full credit due.
I bet there was some under the breath verbalising going on, maybe even some audible


Not at all It's Jackson backyard and he is well respected there for obvious reasons plus no one takes off deeper than him behind the rock and there even was some hooting.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
22 Apr 2013 10:32AM
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Piros said...
micksmith said...
Full credit due.
I bet there was some under the breath verbalising going on, maybe even some audible


Not at all It's Jackson backyard and he is well respected there for obvious reasons plus no one takes off deeper than him behind the rock and there even was some hooting.


True he is well respected out there,so don't get any ideas the rest of you ok

Lacey is often spotted down the line earning his respect

JohnnyMaya
196 posts
22 Apr 2013 2:39PM
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True.
Sick video of some really sick surfing.

What about those boards, they look amazing.
I guess the no toe in or cant theory is still applying on these ones!

Well done boys!

PS: Hey Piros have you tried these boards? How do they handle stability wise (the video shows all the rest)?
I was told by someone around here to ask you feedback on the JP's since you ride them and you're not a small bloke. I'm 100Kg and seriously willing to try the 101ltrs 8'2.

surfershaneA
868 posts
22 Apr 2013 3:23PM
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Top soundtrack!

Oh, surfing wasn't bad either. Lot of use of the paddle....., But I really did enjoy the background track. Sounded a bit Nic Cave?

PTSUP
QLD, 218 posts
22 Apr 2013 6:08PM
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Great vid,fantastic surfing.
Can we get a different spry??The orange gets a bit much.

gregc
VIC, 1299 posts
22 Apr 2013 8:32PM
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dear god he can bury a bloody rail cant he. Must be a close run thing with the volume being so close to his weight.

Piros
QLD, 7235 posts
22 Apr 2013 9:07PM
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JohnnyMaya said...
True.
Sick video of some really sick surfing.

What about those boards, they look amazing.
I guess the no toe in or cant theory is still applying on these ones!

Well done boys!

PS: Hey Piros have you tried these boards? How do they handle stability wise (the video shows all the rest)?
I was told by someone around here to ask you feedback on the JP's since you ride them and you're not a small bloke. I'm 100Kg and seriously willing to try the 101ltrs 8'2.


My fighting weight at the moment is 94 kegs and I surfed the JP 8-0 x 27 - 95 litre during the week , my shins were wet at the start and then you paddle out of it , seriously hard work but I could surf it at almost 1 for 1 at litres per kegs.

I'm really at home in all conditions on the JP 8-6 at 109 litres in all conditions .The JP 8-2 at 101 litres was fine . When you drown a board through weight it becomes more stable , yes you need to work harder paddling around but it's very doable. The shorter boards just rip and are so fast , but at 100 kegs you will struggle on the JP 8-2.

All the boards have zero cant and toe in the fins and proof is in pudding in this video to show that they rip....

PeterP
873 posts
23 Apr 2013 3:25AM
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Not wanting to piss on anyones parade - the dude rips in the video - but I'm battling a bit with 90-94kg guys paddling a 95liter board....could it be that the manufacturer spec'ed it incorrectly?

I've paddled the 90 liter 8'3 Naish (which could also be spec'ed incorrectly - who knows) and I'm 84-85kg - in perfect flat water it was possible if I managed to get up and paddling before I was knee deep in water and if I stopped paddling it was tickets. I got out on a small day and caught one wave but then it was over - way too much work. I also tried the 80 liter 8'0 Hokua - not even remotely close to being possible by anyone my weight.....you simply cannot get to your feet.

A liter to weight ratio of 1 to 1 is just not possible in my experience unless the boards I've tried have all been spec'ed incorrectly. Keen to hear opinions.

micksmith
VIC, 1701 posts
23 Apr 2013 7:29AM
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I'm with peterp here, windsurfed for 27yrs had the same thing happening.(boards under volumed)
Yes you can make a board more stable with width and concaves etc, but 80 ltrs is 80 ltrs and if you weigh 80kg's your going to sink (unless you surf in the dead sea)

Still, the guy rips

Piros
QLD, 7235 posts
23 Apr 2013 8:48AM
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Re the litres , these boards are super bouyant & really light only just cracking the scales at 6kg with fins...it's not just litres but board shape and where the foam is left in the board. I'm not saying 1 for 1 will become the norm but the gap is closing. The 8-0 is not for me it's too small but in saying that Geoff Breen at 87 kg paddles all day on the JP 7-6

Just go back a year ago and look at board sizes & shapes and you will see how fast this sport is evolving.. Looks like it's time for me to go on a diet

dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
23 Apr 2013 10:32AM
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PeterP said...
Not wanting to piss on anyones parade - the dude rips in the video - but I'm battling a bit with 90-94kg guys paddling a 95liter board....could it be that the manufacturer spec'ed it incorrectly?

I've paddled the 90 liter 8'3 Naish (which could also be spec'ed incorrectly - who knows) and I'm 84-85kg - in perfect flat water it was possible if I managed to get up and paddling before I was knee deep in water and if I stopped paddling it was tickets. I got out on a small day and caught one wave but then it was over - way too much work. I also tried the 80 liter 8'0 Hokua - not even remotely close to being possible by anyone my weight.....you simply cannot get to your feet.

A liter to weight ratio of 1 to 1 is just not possible in my experience unless the boards I've tried have all been spec'ed incorrectly. Keen to hear opinions.


Well said the liters must be out on some boards out there for sure 1:1 ratio is really not possible unless you were some type of super freak !!! Piros being able to paddle a board they say is 94 liters and weighting 95 kgs pretty much proves the liters in that board is wrong ......
Btw Jackson's ripping goodluck to him in brazil

FlyingKiwi
QLD, 218 posts
23 Apr 2013 12:13PM
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interesting stuff Piros, I have the 9'2 Pro but would love something smaller for the bigger stuff, my weight is 85Kg so wondering whether the 8'2 or 8'6 would be the go?
alternatively think I might need to demo the 8'0 as well, just to get it out the system.

Rode the 8'11 once and was amazed at the difference between my 9'2 and the 8'11, it ripped!

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
23 Apr 2013 12:46PM
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dtm said...
PeterP said...
Not wanting to piss on anyones parade - the dude rips in the video - but I'm battling a bit with 90-94kg guys paddling a 95liter board....could it be that the manufacturer spec'ed it incorrectly?

I've paddled the 90 liter 8'3 Naish (which could also be spec'ed incorrectly - who knows) and I'm 84-85kg - in perfect flat water it was possible if I managed to get up and paddling before I was knee deep in water and if I stopped paddling it was tickets. I got out on a small day and caught one wave but then it was over - way too much work. I also tried the 80 liter 8'0 Hokua - not even remotely close to being possible by anyone my weight.....you simply cannot get to your feet.

A liter to weight ratio of 1 to 1 is just not possible in my experience unless the boards I've tried have all been spec'ed incorrectly. Keen to hear opinions.


Well said the liters must be out on some boards out there for sure 1:1 ratio is really not possible unless you were some type of super freak !!! Piros being able to paddle a board they say is 94 liters and weighting 95 kgs pretty much proves the liters in that board is wrong ......
Btw Jackson's ripping goodluck to him in brazil



Volume an buoyancy are not the same thing!

rager
QLD, 437 posts
23 Apr 2013 12:57PM
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RJK said...
dtm said...
PeterP said...
Not wanting to piss on anyones parade - the dude rips in the video - but I'm battling a bit with 90-94kg guys paddling a 95liter board....could it be that the manufacturer spec'ed it incorrectly?

I've paddled the 90 liter 8'3 Naish (which could also be spec'ed incorrectly - who knows) and I'm 84-85kg - in perfect flat water it was possible if I managed to get up and paddling before I was knee deep in water and if I stopped paddling it was tickets. I got out on a small day and caught one wave but then it was over - way too much work. I also tried the 80 liter 8'0 Hokua - not even remotely close to being possible by anyone my weight.....you simply cannot get to your feet.

A liter to weight ratio of 1 to 1 is just not possible in my experience unless the boards I've tried have all been spec'ed incorrectly. Keen to hear opinions.


Well said the liters must be out on some boards out there for sure 1:1 ratio is really not possible unless you were some type of super freak !!! Piros being able to paddle a board they say is 94 liters and weighting 95 kgs pretty much proves the liters in that board is wrong ......
Btw Jackson's ripping goodluck to him in brazil



Volume an buoyancy are not the same thing!



Would it then be possible to have a lower volume board made from an eps foam with a lightweight gas, maybe helium in the foam to give more bouancy? I'll check it out with Doctor Karl maybe

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
23 Apr 2013 1:01PM
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I like the idea of no cants on these boards , must be all good blokes who ride them.

Piros
QLD, 7235 posts
23 Apr 2013 2:34PM
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FlyingKiwi said...
interesting stuff Piros, I have the 9'2 Pro but would love something smaller for the bigger stuff, my weight is 85Kg so wondering whether the 8'2 or 8'6 would be the go?
alternatively think I might need to demo the 8'0 as well, just to get it out the system.

Rode the 8'11 once and was amazed at the difference between my 9'2 and the 8'11, it ripped!


Big drop from the 9-2 to the 8-6 two totally different boards. I probably would'nt go past that at the moment.

FlyingKiwi
QLD, 218 posts
23 Apr 2013 3:22PM
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Piros said...
FlyingKiwi said...
interesting stuff Piros, I have the 9'2 Pro but would love something smaller for the bigger stuff, my weight is 85Kg so wondering whether the 8'2 or 8'6 would be the go?
alternatively think I might need to demo the 8'0 as well, just to get it out the system.

Rode the 8'11 once and was amazed at the difference between my 9'2 and the 8'11, it ripped!


Big drop from the 9-2 to the 8-6 two totally different boards. I probably would'nt go past that at the moment.


thanks for the advice :) will have to plan a trip and hope for some waves and get a demo in

Piros
QLD, 7235 posts
23 Apr 2013 3:35PM
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Pretty sure Surf FX has a demo 8-6 , will be a couple of months before the 8-0 & 8-2 demos arrive.

JohnnyMaya
196 posts
23 Apr 2013 2:47PM
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What happens with the volume and weight, is that a volume of 95liters will displace 95kg of pure water at 4ºC. So a 95 liter board should float 95kg of weight.

Since we're in salt water, and it has greater density, therefore grater buoyancy it will give you a little bit of room to play around.
As you pass that weight limit, your board will sink. Not a sink into the bottom of the ocean thing, but sink until the flotation from your own body starts becoming relevant and you start having "less weight on the board", if this makes any sense to you.

One of my best friends who totally rips currently weights 102kg and he is riding a 2013 SB 8'0 Pro at 96 liters. The stability is none existent and he is sinking it up to the shin. He has to paddle it all the time just to be able to balance himself on that thing.

I don't know how he does it but it's real.
Hope this helps.

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
23 Apr 2013 5:22PM
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Great Vid Rob, Jackson is a real powerhouse, great to see him on a little board.

Loving the Bad Seeds track BTW, great album that one.



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