Yeah, so I have kept losing the weight. I'm 5'11, now down to 73kgs, from 93kgs around April or may. Anyway, thought I would go through some of the changes of riding a board weighing 20kgs lighter.

Firstly, I remember reading on here that as you go down in board size you keep doing the same moves, nothing new. That's pretty much the case. I do hit more end sections and can roundhouse tighter but it's the same otherwise.
To be honest, I don't find the turns as satisfying most of the time. There is nothing like throwing a big board, a 128 liter board, with aggression. That said, I don't actually ride the 128 liter 8'2 widebody much anymore. I'm on the jackson close , 8 by 4 by 27.5, and I struggled on it until I hit 80kgs. When I got down to 76 I could stand on it comfortably and not have to worry about falling in every second. I actually took it out today in 3 foot easterly chop and only fell in once, which was to give the Achilles a break. Anyway that's about it.

To lose the weight I did one weird tip....give up flour for main meals.

hmmm losing weight, that might be an idea as well,
I compensate it by buying bigger boards, een nowadays a lot easier as shredding weight
But well done!

Wow, 20 kgs!

You gave up flour! That's all? What were you eating that you gave up? Dumplings and bread?

But you raise a really interesting point. With every 5 kg (or so) you drop you can drop a board size from most manufacturers. I certainly notice how things change when losing just a kg or two. I have even deliberately not worn a wettie to save a bit of weight.

But it seems to me that every board (combined with skill level and wave type) has an optimal rider weight. If you keep losing weight the board has reduced performance until you you drop board size. I guess if reduced weight was a really important factor, jockeys would be the best SUP surfers.

One factor that has puzzled me (unless you are happy surfing like short-boarders and taking off on the steepest part of the wave) is the effect the length of the board has on its speed and thus the ability to get on to a wave earlier. At the extreme, it is super easy for me to catch bigger, fatter waves on my 12' board. But then it is harder to turn the board on the wave.

So, by that logic, it makes sense to be heavier so that once you catch the bigger, fatter wave you have the mass to throw the longer board around. That is the reason why I have made the sacrifice and put in the hard work to grow from 88 kg to just over 100 kg

supthecreek said..
Les, Congratulations on staying focused and getting rid of the weight... so freaking hard!
So many things get easier, like walking and tying my shoes!!!

I think the part I would like most from a shorter board is to have my back foot closer to the kick pad.
My weak knee won't let me reach back too far, since it likes to have weight come down straight over it... not leveraged to the side.

Since we are creatures of habit, the new moves must be learned and practiced.
We don't know what we can do because we simply haven't tried yet!
I am constantly kicking myself to go more vertical, slide the tail more on cutbacks....

I am serious about losing k's now and have shorter boards coming April.... so as I turn 74, I plan to push myself a bit harder!

Your a legend mate, will look forward to your vids of you smashing the lip and sliding the tail like a young grom...... I dropped to 91kegs over lockdown, now im working my way back up the scale... go figure.

supthecreek said..
Les, Congratulations on staying focused and getting rid of the weight... so freaking hard!
So many things get easier, like walking and tying my shoes!!!

I think the part I would like most from a shorter board is to have my back foot closer to the kick pad.
My weak knee won't let me reach back too far, since it likes to have weight come down straight over it... not leveraged to the side.

Since we are creatures of habit, the new moves must be learned and practiced.
We don't know what we can do because we simply haven't tried yet!
I am constantly kicking myself to go more vertical, slide the tail more on cutbacks....

I am serious about losing k's now and have shorter boards coming April.... so as I turn 74, I plan to push myself a bit harder!

The weight. I went cold Turkey on sugar for 3 days and it was torture. But I was prepared for it and overcame it. After that it was just being prepared with the food before I make a bad decision.
So like I said, no flour in the main meals. I still eat **** every now and then. Been smashing the chocolates this week, but again, staying off the flour. I'll usually eat a shipload of potatoes/pumpkin for dinner, with meat and veggies. Breakfast is usually cold veggies and fruit on the way to work. At work it's tuna and avacardo, and more cold veggies, carrot, beans in a pod etc. Dinner it's just meat and veg. But like I said, I'm doing this as my basis and usually go like 3 maybe 4 days before eating some flour or sugar as an off meal, but the main meals are that. Don't feel bloated anymore. Blood pressure is down it's great.only motivator has been riding the jackson close, a massive carrot dangling there in from of me.

eppo said..
Mate well done brother. You would have also severely reduced your co morbidity factors. There's more to be gained than just being able to ride smaller boards!! Yep sugar is the major poison, but so are vegetable oils - an unknown (but becoming more so) a relatively unknown but accepted part of our diet. So stoked for you !!

What's the go with vegetable oils?

les71 said..

supthecreek said..
Les, Congratulations on staying focused and getting rid of the weight... so freaking hard!
So many things get easier, like walking and tying my shoes!!!

I think the part I would like most from a shorter board is to have my back foot closer to the kick pad.
My weak knee won't let me reach back too far, since it likes to have weight come down straight over it... not leveraged to the side.

Since we are creatures of habit, the new moves must be learned and practiced.
We don't know what we can do because we simply haven't tried yet!
I am constantly kicking myself to go more vertical, slide the tail more on cutbacks....

I am serious about losing k's now and have shorter boards coming April.... so as I turn 74, I plan to push myself a bit harder!

The weight. I went cold Turkey on sugar for 3 days and it was torture. But I was prepared for it and overcame it. After that it was just being prepared with the food before I make a bad decision.
So like I said, no flour in the main meals. I still eat **** every now and then. Been smashing the chocolates this week, but again, staying off the flour. I'll usually eat a shipload of potatoes/pumpkin for dinner, with meat and veggies. Breakfast is usually cold veggies and fruit on the way to work. At work it's tuna and avacardo, and more cold veggies, carrot, beans in a pod etc. Dinner it's just meat and veg. But like I said, I'm doing this as my basis and usually go like 3 maybe 4 days before eating some flour or sugar as an off meal, but the main meals are that. Don't feel bloated anymore. Blood pressure is down it's great.only motivator has been riding the jackson close, a massive carrot dangling there in from of me.

Tuna has been my go to for lunch . But need to consider metal content in tuna . It's a bit of concern in terms of cancer . So I try and not eat it every day . The bigger the fish the bigger the risk.

Reducing inflammation is the key . There are several ways to do this including intermittent fasting and natural products like Tumeric and Cayenne Pepper

Gboots said..

les71 said..

supthecreek said..
Les, Congratulations on staying focused and getting rid of the weight... so freaking hard!
So many things get easier, like walking and tying my shoes!!!

I think the part I would like most from a shorter board is to have my back foot closer to the kick pad.
My weak knee won't let me reach back too far, since it likes to have weight come down straight over it... not leveraged to the side.

Since we are creatures of habit, the new moves must be learned and practiced.
We don't know what we can do because we simply haven't tried yet!
I am constantly kicking myself to go more vertical, slide the tail more on cutbacks....

I am serious about losing k's now and have shorter boards coming April.... so as I turn 74, I plan to push myself a bit harder!

The weight. I went cold Turkey on sugar for 3 days and it was torture. But I was prepared for it and overcame it. After that it was just being prepared with the food before I make a bad decision.
So like I said, no flour in the main meals. I still eat **** every now and then. Been smashing the chocolates this week, but again, staying off the flour. I'll usually eat a shipload of potatoes/pumpkin for dinner, with meat and veggies. Breakfast is usually cold veggies and fruit on the way to work. At work it's tuna and avacardo, and more cold veggies, carrot, beans in a pod etc. Dinner it's just meat and veg. But like I said, I'm doing this as my basis and usually go like 3 maybe 4 days before eating some flour or sugar as an off meal, but the main meals are that. Don't feel bloated anymore. Blood pressure is down it's great.only motivator has been riding the jackson close, a massive carrot dangling there in from of me.

Tuna has been my go to for lunch . But need to consider metal content in tuna . It's a bit of concern in terms of cancer . So I try and not eat it every day . The bigger the fish the bigger the risk.

Reducing inflammation is the key . There are several ways to do this including intermittent fasting and natural products like Tumeric and Cayenne Pepper

I have now stopped eating tuna. Haha.

les71 said..

Gboots said..

les71 said..

supthecreek said..
Les, Congratulations on staying focused and getting rid of the weight... so freaking hard!
So many things get easier, like walking and tying my shoes!!!

I think the part I would like most from a shorter board is to have my back foot closer to the kick pad.
My weak knee won't let me reach back too far, since it likes to have weight come down straight over it... not leveraged to the side.

Since we are creatures of habit, the new moves must be learned and practiced.
We don't know what we can do because we simply haven't tried yet!
I am constantly kicking myself to go more vertical, slide the tail more on cutbacks....

I am serious about losing k's now and have shorter boards coming April.... so as I turn 74, I plan to push myself a bit harder!

The weight. I went cold Turkey on sugar for 3 days and it was torture. But I was prepared for it and overcame it. After that it was just being prepared with the food before I make a bad decision.
So like I said, no flour in the main meals. I still eat **** every now and then. Been smashing the chocolates this week, but again, staying off the flour. I'll usually eat a shipload of potatoes/pumpkin for dinner, with meat and veggies. Breakfast is usually cold veggies and fruit on the way to work. At work it's tuna and avacardo, and more cold veggies, carrot, beans in a pod etc. Dinner it's just meat and veg. But like I said, I'm doing this as my basis and usually go like 3 maybe 4 days before eating some flour or sugar as an off meal, but the main meals are that. Don't feel bloated anymore. Blood pressure is down it's great.only motivator has been riding the jackson close, a massive carrot dangling there in from of me.

Tuna has been my go to for lunch . But need to consider metal content in tuna . It's a bit of concern in terms of cancer . So I try and not eat it every day . The bigger the fish the bigger the risk.

Reducing inflammation is the key . There are several ways to do this including intermittent fasting and natural products like Tumeric and Cayenne Pepper

I have now stopped eating tuna. Haha.

Know a bloke who won't eat seafood at all. Reckons it would put him in the ocean's food chain.

bobajob said..
Hey Les, firstly congratulations on loosing the weight. I found that you can exercise all you like and then only loose weight up to a point. It's when you change your diet things start to really happen.
But secondly, what is it that you eat that is "flour"? Do you mean you ate a **** load of bread?

Thanks.

What I regard as flour/ate before heaps...
Wraps, bread, biscuits, ****loads of biscuits really, pizza dough, cookies, cake, family size custard tarts in one sitting, vanilla slices, pies, sausage rolls, etc etc

Basically any processed foods.

Now I'm eating eggs/avo for breakfast most days. If I don't have time I'll grab as many colours of veggies and fruit out of the fridge and eat that one the way to work. Green beans, carrot, eat the avacardo like an apple, nuts, couple of banannas, etc lunch is tuna, well was tune till someone on here reminded me it was no good for you, and avo, dinner is meat, bout 3/4 potatoes, carrot, pumpkin broccoli etc etc. Then like I said I'll do this for about 3/4 days then throw in a bad meal where I don't have time to eat well but try and mitigate the damage by maybe eating avo on a wrap or something like that.

eppo said..

les71 said..

eppo said..
Mate well done brother. You would have also severely reduced your co morbidity factors. There's more to be gained than just being able to ride smaller boards!! Yep sugar is the major poison, but so are vegetable oils - an unknown (but becoming more so) a relatively unknown but accepted part of our diet. So stoked for you !!

What's the go with vegetable oils?

Yeh what hoppo said plus they use these chemicals under very high temperature - because these seeds have a very low oil content. Therefore oxidation, free radicals bla bla bla are created - then it gets even worse when you heat them to cook. There's more to it but yeh - inflammation city. They aren't talked about much - and are in just about every packaged food if you look closely - no good for your fat metabolism pathway - man I could go on. Just avoid them.

What's olive oil like cooked at high temp?

les71 said..

eppo said..

les71 said..

eppo said..
Mate well done brother. You would have also severely reduced your co morbidity factors. There's more to be gained than just being able to ride smaller boards!! Yep sugar is the major poison, but so are vegetable oils - an unknown (but becoming more so) a relatively unknown but accepted part of our diet. So stoked for you !!

What's the go with vegetable oils?

Yeh what hoppo said plus they use these chemicals under very high temperature - because these seeds have a very low oil content. Therefore oxidation, free radicals bla bla bla are created - then it gets even worse when you heat them to cook. There's more to it but yeh - inflammation city. They aren't talked about much - and are in just about every packaged food if you look closely - no good for your fat metabolism pathway - man I could go on. Just avoid them.

What's olive oil like cooked at high temp?

Virgin olive oil is one of the most stable oils under high temps. Again lots of misinformation out there.

Coconut oil is more stable again...

Using Olive oil for domestic high temp cooking is absolutely fine.

In theory it may become an issue under repeated use in high heat, multiple cook situations - like a restaurant kitchen. Otherwise is prefectly good.