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Fear and Loathing in the Lineup

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Created by doggie > 9 months ago, 24 Apr 2012
laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
24 Apr 2012 6:41PM
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doggie said...

Ted the Kiwi said...

doggie said...

OG SUP said...

Doggie,

Just because you have an advantage doesnt mean you have to exploit it.

Phill





Agree on that there mate


I hope so Doggie - I got the feeling from your post that you were handing out almost an olive branch to the SUP crew - or at least showing your understanding and acceptance of the paddle in the line-up - if used well


Mate I dislike tow ins/ats as well as SUPs, as far as Im concerned if someone is paddling with out the use of a motor/paddle anyone who is should show respect to the prone surfer. Be it a mal or even a booger.

I think the paragraph re Laird was good as well. I think its funny how you guys revere him so much.

You are right OG, if used correctly they are fine. eg miles away from me!


haha, doggie i would paddle miles just to sup near you

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
24 Apr 2012 4:52PM
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laceys lane said...

doggie said...

Ted the Kiwi said...

doggie said...

OG SUP said...

Doggie,

Just because you have an advantage doesnt mean you have to exploit it.

Phill





Agree on that there mate


I hope so Doggie - I got the feeling from your post that you were handing out almost an olive branch to the SUP crew - or at least showing your understanding and acceptance of the paddle in the line-up - if used well


Mate I dislike tow ins/ats as well as SUPs, as far as Im concerned if someone is paddling with out the use of a motor/paddle anyone who is should show respect to the prone surfer. Be it a mal or even a booger.

I think the paragraph re Laird was good as well. I think its funny how you guys revere him so much.

You are right OG, if used correctly they are fine. eg miles away from me!


haha, doggie i would paddle miles just to sup near you


I wouldnt expect any less from you, if I knew it was you I would ask for a go on what ever craft you were riding at the time 14 - 17 etc

boofy
NSW, 2110 posts
24 Apr 2012 6:55PM
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doggie i would paddle miles just to sup near you


Sounds like a Tom Jones song

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
24 Apr 2012 7:01PM
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boofy said...

doggie i would paddle miles just to sup near you


Sounds like a Tom Jones song


your drunk and legless, what would you know

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
24 Apr 2012 5:08PM
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laceys lane said...

boofy said...

doggie i would paddle miles just to sup near you


Sounds like a Tom Jones song


your drunk and legless, what would you know


And armless

Leroy13
VIC, 1174 posts
24 Apr 2012 7:08PM
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Ok, that's it!!! Doggie is a kneeboarder! Why else would he leave the "Crips" out?? Small man syndrome is a wonderful thing. How do you have so much time to post anyway?? Are you a politician or a fireman? Doggie doesn't deny being armless and legless.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
24 Apr 2012 5:10PM
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Leroy13 said...

Ok, that's it!!! Doggie is a kneeboarder! Why else would he leave the "Crips" out?? Small man syndrome is a wonderful thing. How do you have so much time to post anyway?? Are you a politician or a fireman?


I have mates that are kneelos, they are ok (there isnt many of them )

I have internet access at work, you will notice that I never (mostly) post on weekends. Im usually surfing when you guys are talking about your boards and paddles

Leroy13
VIC, 1174 posts
24 Apr 2012 7:16PM
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Why that is almost defensive! (obviously a politician) Enjoy Anzac day, I hope you get waves free of "the enemy".

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
24 Apr 2012 5:27PM
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doggie said...

I have internet access at work, you will notice that I never (mostly) post on weekends. Im usually surfing when you guys are talking about your boards and paddles

doggie I reckon you have no internet at home

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
24 Apr 2012 8:07PM
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62mac said...

doggie said...

I have internet access at work, you will notice that I never (mostly) post on weekends. Im usually surfing when you guys are talking about your boards and paddles

doggie I reckon you have no internet at home



you are right

BulldogPup
6657 posts
24 Apr 2012 8:03PM
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hahahahaha - priceless , great read - thanks fellas

hilly
WA, 7932 posts
24 Apr 2012 9:29PM
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62mac said...

doggie said...

I have internet access at work, you will notice that I never (mostly) post on weekends. Im usually surfing when you guys are talking about your boards and paddles

doggie I reckon you have no internet at home



Gotta love a long boarder hassling a short boarder on the sup forum. Bit sad really

Scotty88
4214 posts
24 Apr 2012 9:33PM
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hilly said...

62mac said...

doggie said...

I have internet access at work, you will notice that I never (mostly) post on weekends. Im usually surfing when you guys are talking about your boards and paddles

doggie I reckon you have no internet at home



Gotta love a long boarder hassling a short boarder on the sup forum. Bit sad really


doggie posts in the kite and windsurfer rooms as well. eh dog ?

hilly
WA, 7932 posts
24 Apr 2012 9:39PM
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Opinions are like arseholes everyone has one

WINDY MILLER
WA, 3183 posts
24 Apr 2012 11:32PM
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I have internet access at work, you will notice that I never (mostly) post on weekends. Im usually surfing when you guys are talking about your boards and paddles



11577 posts... boring job then

jsnfok
WA, 899 posts
25 Apr 2012 9:08AM
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doggie said...

maxeaus said...

...............I think you secretly love SUP.

Why else are you in every thread on here!


Jeepers, every thread

Defo dont love it.

Funny, last Saturday my mates and I were surfing a beachie with a few other people, all shortboards. Then one of the other crew went in and came out on a SUP. Didnt last long, went back and got his shortie as it was much more fun.

Oh well thats my story for today, cheers


agree with you on that one, ive been supping for a year, but if the conditions allow i go surfing instead..... way more fun unless its super fat and im tired

gumballs
NSW, 408 posts
25 Apr 2012 3:33PM
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Keep going Doggy,you got me cracking up in the meal room at work.All the other drivers think I've lost the plot....Ha Ha Ha...!!

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
25 Apr 2012 11:10PM
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doggie said...

Funny, last Saturday my mates and I were surfing a beachie with a few other people, all shortboards. Then one of the other crew went in and came out on a SUP. Didnt last long, went back and got his shortie as it was much more fun.

Oh well thats my story for today, cheers

Bet he couldn't SUP

ockanui
VIC, 1318 posts
26 Apr 2012 9:41AM
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Sought of agree, i quite often take a mal with me and have surfed that, not necessarily because its better fun, quite the contrary, its more i can get as many waves as i want without fear of dispute, whereas if on my sup( i prefer) i have to be more politically correct and give waves away the irony being i am competitive when i am on a shortboard but if i am on a sup i been called a c&&t but nonetheless undeterred also having surfed for 45+ years, i surf whether on a sup or shortboard, as mr Lopez in a recent interview said the sooner all surfers realize that Sup is here to stay the better

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
26 Apr 2012 8:39AM
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Greenroom said...

doggie said...

Funny, last Saturday my mates and I were surfing a beachie with a few other people, all shortboards. Then one of the other crew went in and came out on a SUP. Didnt last long, went back and got his shortie as it was much more fun.

Oh well thats my story for today, cheers

Bet he couldn't SUP




Yea he could, it didnt look like fun tho.

rodriguez
VIC, 883 posts
26 Apr 2012 12:48PM
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I agree Ock, i had a surf at catbay on a 8-6 sup,was told by a group of guys to take that piece of **** barge and f###k off.It so happened that i also had my mate with me and he had a 10' footer on the roof so i wen't in and got it.I paddled out and proceeded to take every wave i could,not one word was said.Not one word about the length etc etc.I know they knew i was making a statement,but really the 8-6 sup was probably the second smallest board in the water, and i was not pigging out so go figure.Ock im like you im long in the tooth, surfed for 50 years now, and usually let all the snipping go thru to the keeper, but these guys were surfing shortboards, and were pretty ordinary, and maybe because their choice of board was bullsh#t for that wave, i just couldn't let it go.The sooner everybody gets it ,that we surf for fun,the better.There is this perception that by definition that if you ride a shortboard you are automatically a superior surfer no matter what the conditions, and b4 all the shorties get wound up,let me say i will occassionly still ride my 7s fish when my old bod feels soft and warm.

ockanui said...

Sought of agree, i quite often take a mal with me and have surfed that, not necessarily because its better fun, quite the contrary, its more i can get as many waves as i want without fear of dispute, whereas if on my sup( i prefer) i have to be more politically correct and give waves away the irony being i am competitive when i am on a shortboard but if i am on a sup i been called a c&&t but nonetheless undeterred also having surfed for 45+ years, i surf whether on a sup or shortboard, as mr Lopez in a recent interview said the sooner all surfers realize that Sup is here to stay the better


doggie
WA, 15849 posts
26 Apr 2012 11:29AM
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rodriguez said...

I agree Ock, i had a surf at catbay on a 8-6 sup,was told by a group of guys to take that piece of **** barge and f###k off.It so happened that i also had my mate with me and he had a 10' footer on the roof so i wen't in and got it.I paddled out and proceeded to take every wave i could,not one word was said.Not one word about the length etc etc.I know they knew i was making a statement,but really the 8-6 sup was probably the second smallest board in the water, and i was not pigging out so go figure.Ock im like you im long in the tooth, surfed for 50 years now, and usually let all the snipping go thru to the keeper, but these guys were surfing shortboards, and were pretty ordinary, and maybe because their choice of board was bullsh#t for that wave, i just couldn't let it go.The sooner everybody gets it ,that we surf for fun,the better.There is this perception that by definition that if you ride a shortboard you are automatically a superior surfer no matter what the conditions, and b4 all the shorties get wound up,let me say i will occassionly still ride my 7s fish when my old bod feels soft and warm.
ockanui said...

Sought of agree, i quite often take a mal with me and have surfed that, not necessarily because its better fun, quite the contrary, its more i can get as many waves as i want without fear of dispute, whereas if on my sup( i prefer) i have to be more politically correct and give waves away the irony being i am competitive when i am on a shortboard but if i am on a sup i been called a c&&t but nonetheless undeterred also having surfed for 45+ years, i surf whether on a sup or shortboard, as mr Lopez in a recent interview said the sooner all surfers realize that Sup is here to stay the better





But anybody can ride a SUP, it takes years of persistance to get good on a SB, thats why we are better

HumanCartoon
VIC, 2098 posts
26 Apr 2012 1:37PM
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ockanui said...

...but if i am on a sup i been called a c&&t...


Could be worse Ock...at least you're not a fat c&&t...

gumballs
NSW, 408 posts
26 Apr 2012 3:24PM
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doggie said...

rodriguez said...

I agree Ock, i had a surf at catbay on a 8-6 sup,was told by a group of guys to take that piece of **** barge and f###k off.It so happened that i also had my mate with me and he had a 10' footer on the roof so i wen't in and got it.I paddled out and proceeded to take every wave i could,not one word was said.Not one word about the length etc etc.I know they knew i was making a statement,but really the 8-6 sup was probably the second smallest board in the water, and i was not pigging out so go figure.Ock im like you im long in the tooth, surfed for 50 years now, and usually let all the snipping go thru to the keeper, but these guys were surfing shortboards, and were pretty ordinary, and maybe because their choice of board was bullsh#t for that wave, i just couldn't let it go.The sooner everybody gets it ,that we surf for fun,the better.There is this perception that by definition that if you ride a shortboard you are automatically a superior surfer no matter what the conditions, and b4 all the shorties get wound up,let me say i will occassionly still ride my 7s fish when my old bod feels soft and warm.
ockanui said...

Sought of agree, i quite often take a mal with me and have surfed that, not necessarily because its better fun, quite the contrary, its more i can get as many waves as i want without fear of dispute, whereas if on my sup( i prefer) i have to be more politically correct and give waves away the irony being i am competitive when i am on a shortboard but if i am on a sup i been called a c&&t but nonetheless undeterred also having surfed for 45+ years, i surf whether on a sup or shortboard, as mr Lopez in a recent interview said the sooner all surfers realize that Sup is here to stay the better





But anybody can ride a SUP, it takes years of persistance to get good on a SB, thats why we are better
You would'nt be rubbing our noses in it now would you Doggie.....?

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
26 Apr 2012 1:37PM
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gumballs said...

doggie said...

rodriguez said...

I agree Ock, i had a surf at catbay on a 8-6 sup,was told by a group of guys to take that piece of **** barge and f###k off.It so happened that i also had my mate with me and he had a 10' footer on the roof so i wen't in and got it.I paddled out and proceeded to take every wave i could,not one word was said.Not one word about the length etc etc.I know they knew i was making a statement,but really the 8-6 sup was probably the second smallest board in the water, and i was not pigging out so go figure.Ock im like you im long in the tooth, surfed for 50 years now, and usually let all the snipping go thru to the keeper, but these guys were surfing shortboards, and were pretty ordinary, and maybe because their choice of board was bullsh#t for that wave, i just couldn't let it go.The sooner everybody gets it ,that we surf for fun,the better.There is this perception that by definition that if you ride a shortboard you are automatically a superior surfer no matter what the conditions, and b4 all the shorties get wound up,let me say i will occassionly still ride my 7s fish when my old bod feels soft and warm.
ockanui said...

Sought of agree, i quite often take a mal with me and have surfed that, not necessarily because its better fun, quite the contrary, its more i can get as many waves as i want without fear of dispute, whereas if on my sup( i prefer) i have to be more politically correct and give waves away the irony being i am competitive when i am on a shortboard but if i am on a sup i been called a c&&t but nonetheless undeterred also having surfed for 45+ years, i surf whether on a sup or shortboard, as mr Lopez in a recent interview said the sooner all surfers realize that Sup is here to stay the better





But anybody can ride a SUP, it takes years of persistance to get good on a SB, thats why we are better
You would'nt be rubbing our noses in it now would you Doggie.....?




Naaaa

boofy
NSW, 2110 posts
26 Apr 2012 3:47PM
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doggie said...

gumballs said...

doggie said...

rodriguez said...

I agree Ock, i had a surf at catbay on a 8-6 sup,was told by a group of guys to take that piece of **** barge and f###k off.It so happened that i also had my mate with me and he had a 10' footer on the roof so i wen't in and got it.I paddled out and proceeded to take every wave i could,not one word was said.Not one word about the length etc etc.I know they knew i was making a statement,but really the 8-6 sup was probably the second smallest board in the water, and i was not pigging out so go figure.Ock im like you im long in the tooth, surfed for 50 years now, and usually let all the snipping go thru to the keeper, but these guys were surfing shortboards, and were pretty ordinary, and maybe because their choice of board was bullsh#t for that wave, i just couldn't let it go.The sooner everybody gets it ,that we surf for fun,the better.There is this perception that by definition that if you ride a shortboard you are automatically a superior surfer no matter what the conditions, and b4 all the shorties get wound up,let me say i will occassionly still ride my 7s fish when my old bod feels soft and warm.
ockanui said...

Sought of agree, i quite often take a mal with me and have surfed that, not necessarily because its better fun, quite the contrary, its more i can get as many waves as i want without fear of dispute, whereas if on my sup( i prefer) i have to be more politically correct and give waves away the irony being i am competitive when i am on a shortboard but if i am on a sup i been called a c&&t but nonetheless undeterred also having surfed for 45+ years, i surf whether on a sup or shortboard, as mr Lopez in a recent interview said the sooner all surfers realize that Sup is here to stay the better





But anybody can ride a SUP, it takes years of persistance to get good on a SB, thats why we are better
You would'nt be rubbing our noses in it now would you Doggie.....?




Naaaa


Shortboarding all ya life is just like doing it missionary all ya life sooner or later ya just gotta have a go at something else

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
26 Apr 2012 1:51PM
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boofy said...

doggie said...

gumballs said...

doggie said...

rodriguez said...

I agree Ock, i had a surf at catbay on a 8-6 sup,was told by a group of guys to take that piece of **** barge and f###k off.It so happened that i also had my mate with me and he had a 10' footer on the roof so i wen't in and got it.I paddled out and proceeded to take every wave i could,not one word was said.Not one word about the length etc etc.I know they knew i was making a statement,but really the 8-6 sup was probably the second smallest board in the water, and i was not pigging out so go figure.Ock im like you im long in the tooth, surfed for 50 years now, and usually let all the snipping go thru to the keeper, but these guys were surfing shortboards, and were pretty ordinary, and maybe because their choice of board was bullsh#t for that wave, i just couldn't let it go.The sooner everybody gets it ,that we surf for fun,the better.There is this perception that by definition that if you ride a shortboard you are automatically a superior surfer no matter what the conditions, and b4 all the shorties get wound up,let me say i will occassionly still ride my 7s fish when my old bod feels soft and warm.
ockanui said...

Sought of agree, i quite often take a mal with me and have surfed that, not necessarily because its better fun, quite the contrary, its more i can get as many waves as i want without fear of dispute, whereas if on my sup( i prefer) i have to be more politically correct and give waves away the irony being i am competitive when i am on a shortboard but if i am on a sup i been called a c&&t but nonetheless undeterred also having surfed for 45+ years, i surf whether on a sup or shortboard, as mr Lopez in a recent interview said the sooner all surfers realize that Sup is here to stay the better





But anybody can ride a SUP, it takes years of persistance to get good on a SB, thats why we are better
You would'nt be rubbing our noses in it now would you Doggie.....?




Naaaa


Shortboarding all ya life is just like doing it missionary all ya life sooner or later ya just gotta have a go at something else




I like a bit of reverse cowgirl every now and then

ockanui
VIC, 1318 posts
26 Apr 2012 3:55PM
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After reading the short board forum, I think there is a slight mongrel canine "doin a bit of froth'n" about feeding the chooks um er Suppers with two bob fodder.
Seriously not sure what the motive is? a bit of friendly banter between all fellow surfers? nah its just fuelling more banal comments that end up as punchups in the carpark?
What's the point, give me the old days when surfers were all surfers and the common thread was against a mainstream and aggressive thought process which now seems to prevails by certain sections of the surfing fraternity about their rights of ownership of the waves.
There was a great song way back... "you have to have a membership card to get inside" the old ethos of surfing was get ****ed... don't have a ticket, don't tell me to do...

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
26 Apr 2012 2:26PM
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I think the initial point of the thread may have been lost but i will say this.

I just joined the ranks of Sup's as well. ( only very new)

As a short board surfer i that will always be my first love. But i will say this. Sup is not as easy as it seems. Took my board yesterday into the Ocean surf (all be it tiny swell) and the difference from flat water was extreme to say the least. I consider myself a competent surfer (others might not) but the sup thing in a crowd would be simply dangerous in the wrong hands. To be honest though i ended up back on my short board later and the boggiers felt the same about my hard board so i guess its just a case of sharing and being respective of others in the water

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
26 Apr 2012 4:59PM
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24 April 2012 11:06 AM
Sunday 22nd April, Point Cartwright Sunshine Coast. Surf 4-6 foot with a relaxed and easy going small crowd. Amongst us were two SUP riders, both very competent riders. Until one decides to get cocky and sit in the main cluster close to a sucky rock shelf. The first waves of the set come through and clean up those sitting on the inside edge of the take off zone. The SUP rider clumsily turns his craft into a late take off and proceeds to nose dive the board into the path of other surfers duck diving and trying to avoid the take off zone.
The SUP and rider lands on top of another surfer who was warning him very vocally that he was in the way. Something either a fin or a paddle slices a 15cm gash in the calf of the poor bastard who got in the way, this gash split the calf right down to the tendons. An Ambulance was called and the victim was carted off for surgery and a long lay off from the water.
I have seen too many encounters this one by far the worst involving SUPs in critical zones.
How long will it be before a permanent disability or death becomes a headline due to the stupidity of irresponsible SUP riders?






SUP riding in crowded surf is just another chapter in the evolution of greed in surfing and in the line-up. Before SUPs it was PWCs and tow-ins and before that it was wave skis and in many cases mals.

Its good that people surf and on different boards but the reality is some do not mix without lots of common sense and respect and folks that is where it falls apart.

Locally, SUP riders have pretty much taken over two breaks and regularly surf 4 or 6 others. Everyone I have spoken to about their presence on the coast hates it but they seem powerless to anything about it.

For what its worth I believe SUPs and wave skis should not be permitted to surf amongst surfers on small boards just like PWCs are banned but that will not happen unless there are deaths or riots or both.



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