Great job with the vid Paul.. It goes to show just how good the Pin is.. Are you in London right now?.. btw you missed another great DW'er today..

DJ

DavidJohn said...

Great job with the vid Paul.. It goes to show just how good the Pin is.. Are you in London right now?.. btw you missed another great DW'er today..

DJ

Yeah leaving London today. Last night I paddled about 13km on the Thames with some locals. I had the chance to race against several Pins - they kindly put me on a Fanatic 10'6" allrounder so it was a bit sluggish compared with the displacement hulls I'm used to. Anyhow, I managed to beat them all home to bring home Commonwealth gold for Australia.

I reckon Starboard was crazy to discontinue the Pin, such a great board. But the New is also an outstanding board, just a little more specialised.

It looks like the pin was able to stay on course better, you seemed to be changing sides less. how much break did you have between the tests and which board did you test first. The Glide on both both boards looked good.

Hey Sharmat, I ran the New first but there was a good 20 mins to half hour between after paddling back and swapping boards. Took in some fluids along the way so I don't think fatigue was a factor. The only other thing to change was I used a different paddle - Shaku Puu on the New and Pipes on the Pin. Make of that what you will. Also, the glide advantage of the Pin may be because I have a better suited fin on that board.

As for Lacey's point about the amount of effort spent on stabilising, I think that's true initially, but after you work out the tipping point and become confident in the stability of the New, that would no longer be an issue. But you're right, it was in this test.

I'm still not quite sure what conditions the New is best suited in - absolute flat of a river, or mild chop, when compared with the Pin. Instinctively, I'd say flat, but the fact that these results were so close, and the New went so well (relatively speaking) in a downwinder, I think maybe it would work better in just a little bit of chop vs the Pin.

PTWoody said...

Hey Sharmat, I ran the New first but there was a good 20 mins to half hour between after paddling back and swapping boards. Took in some fluids along the way so I don't think fatigue was a factor. The only other thing to change was I used a different paddle - Shaku Puu on the New and Pipes on the Pin. Make of that what you will. Also, the glide advantage of the Pin may be because I have a better suited fin on that board.

As for Lacey's point about the amount of effort spent on stabilising, I think that's true initially, but after you work out the tipping point and become confident in the stability of the New, that would no longer be an issue. But you're right, it was in this test.

I'm still not quite sure what conditions the New is best suited in - absolute flat of a river, or mild chop, when compared with the Pin. Instinctively, I'd say flat, but the fact that these results were so close, and the New went so well (relatively speaking) in a downwinder, I think maybe it would work better in just a little bit of chop vs the Pin.

why would you change paddles in a board test?the pipes is too small to pull any decent water. looks like you wonted the new to be faster

Have you guys seen my spaghetti arms? The Pipes paddle gave the Pin a distinct advantage rather than the other way around. And the reason I changed was because my Pipes is cut 2" longer than the Puu and I figured the shorter paddle might be easier to lift over the tall bow of the New. But after 5 mins of using the Puu, I was eager to get back to the Pipes.