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Best Inflatable SUP for surfing?

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Created by BennoMtB > 9 months ago, 15 Aug 2012
BennoMtB
VIC, 8 posts
15 Aug 2012 4:01AM
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I'm 92kgs have surfed for 25yrs and I am keen to get advice for the best inflatable SUP to surf with. I have read all the related posts on the forum which has been helpful and also checked out many manufacturers websites and YouTube vids. From what I can tell the ULI's look the best in the waves. I'd also like to know how people rate the 3 piece paddles. I live near Albury Wodonga where is the closest place I can demo some gear? Any advice appreciated!

DRun
9 posts
21 Aug 2012 12:15PM
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Never surfed the ULI but the 9' Starboard Astro Converse is very good in waves! I can't imagine a better made board. It turns, it's stable, it catches everything. But maybe wait for the 2013 models because manufacturers are making big technical steps forward with inflatables. They're also great for kids and newbies - they can't damage the rail and they're quite springy if you hit them (the board that is...).

BrisKites
QLD, 1292 posts
21 Aug 2012 4:27PM
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You might find most a bit flexy at your weight. I can get most 4" boards to flex @ 89kg.

Maybe look at some of the Naish boards which are available @ 6" thick.
he rail thickness wont matter as youy cant really rail an inflato anyway.

HumanCartoon
VIC, 2098 posts
21 Aug 2012 8:44PM
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BrisKites said...

youy cant really rail an inflato anyway.


This bloke might disagree:

BrisKites
QLD, 1292 posts
21 Aug 2012 10:38PM
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Big lad, looks like he could rail the Queen Mary

ULI Boards
VIC, 23 posts
21 Aug 2012 11:22PM
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Note: Copied from another post.

Hi Guys

Our apologies as we need to be more active on seabreeze. We do monitor it from time to time.

The 'wiki' rail has only recently been released in the U.S. and we won't see it on Oz until early next year. We haven't seen one in the flesh ourselves but are awaiting a couple of demo's which should arrive around Sept/Oct. By all reports including from well renowned surfers the 'wiki' rail makes the board perform as well as any hardboard. The improvement in glide and stability is unparalleled. Essentially, it reduces drag, turbulence and suction inherent in other inflatables.

We've only recently built the Oz website meaning anyone from Oz and Asia Pacific automatically gets re-directed to our site.

We currently have only one 12'6" left in stock as well as one 14". They are both single skins - the new versions will only be offered in double skins. We have a lot of 11' Steamrollers in stock. Furthermore we currently have a 20% discount offer which translates to $300 plus saving on all boards. Also 10% on accessories.

For the record the U.S. are offering the "wiki" as an option whereas we are intending to make it standard on all boards offered in Aus (current stock aside) without increasing current RRP.

For those of you in Vic we are based in Vic and have a factory in Tullamarine and are often around Port Phillip Bay. Stay tuned as we are also on the cusp of starting an all inflatable SUP school.

Thanks for expressing interest in our product and for your kind posts.

Cheers
Fab

mickyc54
51 posts
22 Aug 2012 6:23PM
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Gee whiz, 'Briskites' you seem to be quick to rubbish anything that isn't a dedicated fibreglass SUP Board made by Naish. You also bagged the BOTE fishing SUP that I was interested in and talked about on another thread. I think you need to stop being so negative about all the other types of SUP boards on the market. I believe you carry the REDAIR iSUP range so what is your beef about other inflatable SUP's?

mickyc54
51 posts
22 Aug 2012 7:55PM
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You or someone at Bris Kites said about the BOTE Fishing SUP... 'It's really just a wide board with tie downs... In the USA you could make a Sponge Bob Square Pants Board and eventually someone would buy it...' let's face it, that's bagging the board. I don't feel the boards you recommended - the Naish 12' Glide or the Fanatic Ray could be compared with the options available on the BOTE model. I'm dissappointed that Bris Kites can't see the potential for the BOTE type SUP board for the Australian market.

BennoMtB
VIC, 8 posts
24 Aug 2012 11:56PM
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DRun said...

Never surfed the ULI but the 9' Starboard Astro Converse is very good in waves! I can't imagine a better made board. It turns, it's stable, it catches everything. But maybe wait for the 2013 models because manufacturers are making big technical steps forward with inflatables. They're also great for kids and newbies - they can't damage the rail and they're quite springy if you hit them (the board that is...).


Thanks DRun,
The Starboard's look really good but I reckon not enough volume in the Converse for my 92kgs the Whopper maybe too wide and the Astro a bit long for what I'm after. I'm keen to see what the 2013 range looks like though.

26 Aug 2012 4:50PM
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Ive ridden the RED paddle and the Naish inflatables and 2 others in the surf and the Red and the naish both worked but not like a non inflatable .They were fun and the big fin on the naish seemed to help with turns but the stiffer rail on the red cut harder for me but im only 73kgs .To me inflatables arnt so much about performance, but more about ease of transport and fun, can take them anywhere ,the kids cant break them, and they dont hurt the kids either.
Have fun George

BennoMtB
VIC, 8 posts
26 Aug 2012 11:44PM
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Adventure Sports Noosa said...

Ive ridden the RED paddle and the Naish inflatables and 2 others in the surf and the Red and the naish both worked but not like a non inflatable .They were fun and the big fin on the naish seemed to help with turns but the stiffer rail on the red cut harder for me but im only 73kgs .To me inflatables arnt so much about performance, but more about ease of transport and fun, can take them anywhere ,the kids cant break them, and they dont hurt the kids either.
Have fun George


Thanks George it's nice to get some feedback from someone who's tried a couple. I'm landlocked about 4hrs drive to the nearest surf spot so for me getting an inflatable is all about convenience of transport and storage. If the surf is good I'll be on my regular surfboard but if it's not I want to be able to pull out the inflatable and pump it up. I don't want to have to leave a regular SUP sitting on the roof racks while I'm out surfing my 6'1 fish.
I have two boys under 4yrs and figure it will be a great way to share my love of surfing with them. There are plenty of flatwater and whitewater river options where I live so an inflatable is the obvious choice. However I'm still keen to find out which one is best in the surf so thanks for your post. What length Red and Naish boards did you try? And did you try any inflatables that didn't surf that well so I can rule them out?

mazdon
1199 posts
28 Aug 2012 10:14PM
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hey benno
i'm 90kg too, and when coming back from a bad knee and and leg injury, a mate organised an inflatable sup for me (through a chinese manufacturing contact, but turned out to be identical as far as i could tell, to the C4s) to ease my way back on the water and to break the rehab boredom.
started on river, and yeah, they do bend a bit, even when pumped to 12psi, but i took it out on some 4km or so adventures and it would cruise fine once you worked on your technique. got it in the ocean and waves as soon as i was confident (well, actually before i was really ready, but everything turned out fine ) and the first thing is that the flex gets magnified 10 fold with waves, that is when actually riding, but also when dealing with chop and paddling out etc - it takes some getting used to - but if you are after fun, and not performance, i'm sure you'll be right. the next thing is that with any wind, these bad boys try to swing quicker than a compass - you will need really glassy conditions to be able to relax and enjoy, otherwise it is a real battle. that follows on to making sure you get one with decent detachable fins, and a longer centre fin will definitely help (or even by itself and just ride like a mal) - don't go for the molded hard rubber fins that are already attached on some sorts.
your kids will love it though, and it is heaps safer and user friendly for those fall backwards moments when learning - my girlfriend doesn't know why i come home with all these bruises and fin chops after i surf on short boards - as she is used to the mattress as i call it haha
finally a general comment as i don't post here often, SUP is definitely small wave fun and great exercise, but i have upgraded to a new board myself and used a few major brand name boards of of friends of the less inflatable variety now, and i can honestly say despite the froth evident on these forums, that it does not even come close to shortboards for surfing performance when the waves are good (despite the skills shown by keahi and the crew at the nationals, i mean, they'd be throwing alaia's around if they spent enough time on em), so don't sweat on choosing between an inflatable or some other tank on "surfing" performance, go the convenience to match your needs... and surf when it's pumping.
hope that helps.

BennoMtB
VIC, 8 posts
3 Sep 2012 1:36AM
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Thanks mazdon
Some good points you bring up about the windy conditions that I hadn't considered. For me the SUP will always be just a back up for when the surf isn't pumping and to get in the local rivers and lakes.
For anyone interested in this thread I just read some interesting posts about inflatables on another site called stand up zone that is worth a look.


hey benno
i'm 90kg too, and when coming back from a bad knee and and leg injury, a mate organised an inflatable sup for me (through a chinese manufacturing contact, but turned out to be identical as far as i could tell, to the C4s) to ease my way back on the water and to break the rehab boredom.
started on river, and yeah, they do bend a bit, even when pumped to 12psi, but i took it out on some 4km or so adventures and it would cruise fine once you worked on your technique. got it in the ocean and waves as soon as i was confident (well, actually before i was really ready, but everything turned out fine ) and the first thing is that the flex gets magnified 10 fold with waves, that is when actually riding, but also when dealing with chop and paddling out etc - it takes some getting used to - but if you are after fun, and not performance, i'm sure you'll be right. the next thing is that with any wind, these bad boys try to swing quicker than a compass - you will need really glassy conditions to be able to relax and enjoy, otherwise it is a real battle. that follows on to making sure you get one with decent detachable fins, and a longer centre fin will definitely help (or even by itself and just ride like a mal) - don't go for the molded hard rubber fins that are already attached on some sorts.
your kids will love it though, and it is heaps safer and user friendly for those fall backwards moments when learning - my girlfriend doesn't know why i come home with all these bruises and fin chops after i surf on short boards - as she is used to the mattress as i call it haha
finally a general comment as i don't post here often, SUP is definitely small wave fun and great exercise, but i have upgraded to a new board myself and used a few major brand name boards of of friends of the less inflatable variety now, and i can honestly say despite the froth evident on these forums, that it does not even come close to shortboards for surfing performance when the waves are good (despite the skills shown by keahi and the crew at the nationals, i mean, they'd be throwing alaia's around if they spent enough time on em), so don't sweat on choosing between an inflatable or some other tank on "surfing" performance, go the convenience to match your needs... and surf when it's pumping.
hope that helps.



BennoMtB
VIC, 8 posts
12 Sep 2012 12:24AM
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After extensive research I have just ordered an ULI 9'3" FAQ and a Werner Carve 3 Piece Paddle. I will be on flatwater this weekend and on the river in some small rapids ASAP. Will get in some waves by the end of September. If anyone would like to know how it goes I'm happy to reply to any posts.

Cuttlefish
QLD, 1332 posts
12 Sep 2012 6:15AM
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mazdon said...

hey benno
 .... i can honestly say despite the froth evident on these forums, that it does not even come close to shortboards for surfing performance when the waves are good (despite the skills shown by keahi and the crew at the nationals, i mean, they'd be throwing alaia's around if they spent enough time on em), so don't sweat on choosing between an inflatable or some other tank on "surfing" performance, go the convenience to match your needs... and surf when it's pumping.
hope that helps.



Interesting to read someone else echoing my thoughts.
Love paddling but would still rather ride a "normal" surfboard when the waves are more than tiny.
The expedition capabilities of inflatable sups has my brain working overtime thinking of all the great places that it opens up.
Last Sunday the whole family (wife, 4 yr old boy, 11 and 13 yr old girls) and I went paddling a Naish Nalu 10'10" and a Fanatic Fly 10'er up our local river.
Headed up a small creek from it and the wife and kids absolutely loved it.
They felt like they were exploring the Amazon rainforest as we ducked under over hanging branches, clambered over fallen tree trunks blocking the stream and the stillness of the waters and sounds of only nature made us feel like we were miles away from anything.

oldsup
QLD, 87 posts
16 Sep 2012 8:51AM
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BennoMtB said...

After extensive research I have just ordered an ULI 9'3" FAQ and a Werner Carve 3 Piece Paddle. I will be on flatwater this weekend and on the river in some small rapids ASAP. Will get in some waves by the end of September. If anyone would like to know how it goes I'm happy to reply to any posts.


Hi BennoMtB
I would like to hear your option of the Werner three piece paddle I am loooking for another three piece for our trip to NZ.
What do you think of the ULI we love ours and have ordered a new 12'6" hopefully to arrive sometime this week
Cheers

pop41
WA, 41 posts
23 Sep 2012 9:48PM
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im 100kg and bought the naish mana 6 inch dont get much surf where i live on christmas island but big swell i regularly go out with my 2 kids (3 and 5) on the board and have no dramas they walk all over the board. when i first bought it it didn't have the pressure gauge and didn't want to pump it up to hard so pumped it till it felt ok. when i got the pressure gauge it was only 8psi. now i run it at 10 to 12 psi (what ever i can be bothered pumping to) and handles great. definitely wouldn't be as rigid for surfing as fibre glass but open ocean it is great.

also i have the hobie traveler 3 piece paddle is great for $250 as all other 3 piece seem to be around $400 slight movement in the joints but once you get over that it is super strong and fits in the inflatable bag so 1 bag when your traveling.



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