Hi all
I currently have a Starboard Atlas (12' x 33 x 236L) and while it is a great first board, I'm looking at something more dedicated to flatwater/touring on rivers and lakes. I'd class myself as reasonably proficient, but certainly no expert and have not landed on my ass too many times.
At present the only two possibilities I can find are the Starboard Touring Carbon (14' x 30" x 288L) or the Fanatic Falcon Carbon (14' x 30" x 317L). I'm open to any and all other suggestions.
I'm 135kg.
Initial enquiries on the Starboard touring is they may not bring the Carbon model into Australia frequently or at all, and given the Fanatic board is hollow, I may kill it given my size.
I'm highly confident I'll handle the step from a 33" board to at least a 30" board and happy to consider narrower options if there is a very good, suitable board.
Can the wider more experienced SUP community give me some suggestions on anything else I could consider?
Thanks!
Hey mate the fanatic boards are not hollow they are foam core like 99% of other SUP's out there. It is a great board for the big guys, nice and stable yet still very quick for its size.
Hope this clears that bit up for you.
Cheers Jacko
Magilla I had the same problem, and sorta still do.
Jacko as always right the Fanatic will do the job, and having paddled the touring, and even surfed it "badly" it was good.
Fristly i'd question Carbon, at 135 kgs your gonna be able to carry a board and at 135 kgs how much does carbon matter on the water, well thats IMHO, I have the Angulo Shaka and its possibly the heaviest SUP board (other than chinese import) in the world, but i love it 14 x 30 and 300 and something litres, has done the job for 2 yrs, it (and I) will never win a race, but its great to paddle and great in the open ocean, and surfs well too. Finding one might be hard tho.
You might also consider wide DC - there are a few around but again hard to find
i am waiting for JP to bring out a 14, along the lines of the 12'6 that Piros posted in here, but its not due anytime soon.
FWIW when I started i was just a nudge under 130 kgs and am now a nudge on 115 kgs but almost 3 pants sizes smaller.
Good look
Greg
Thanks HC and Greg
I do admire your input. I'm glad I'm not alone in the 'big fella' category.
I will take up your offer HC on the private message. Very interested in what you have to say about fins also. Given I paddle up/down some of Melbourne's rivers most frequently, I've just bought a weed fin out of the UK. about 30% cheaper than the same fin locally.
The carbon thing comes from years of sailing competitively. Everything is carbon, but I guess you're right Greg, if i want to save a few kg's then the best and cheapest option is probably paddle a little harder/longer/more frequently.
Thank you both for the comments!
Hey Magilla! im 95-98 and have the 27.5 carbon falcon. its great volume for me. id reckon the 30 would be tops for u. nice and stable but still very capable of a turn of speed. Your pn the right track checking volumes and widths.. narrow low volume will not work for us heavier guys :)
Hey mate i have the Fanatic Falcon 14x30 in HRS, and have paddled it as high as 120kgs without any probs, great value in HRS too.
Cheers
How about a custom DC? He has made boards for some very large blokes like former NBA basketballer Luc Longley and can put the volume where you need it rather than getting a generic shape made for no one in particular. Still surprises me that more people, especially those who don't fit the mould, go out and buy a board off the rack. Considering a custom board is not much more $$ (if any) than a pop out and the resale on them is usually pretty good it would have to be a no brainer. I guess the only downside would be getting a demo on one which after coming from a short board background was never an issue because it was never available anyway.
A custom DC is an option provided my budget doesn't fly out the window!
Wouldn't hurt to make a phone call I guess...
Gentlemen, I guess it is similar to my world of sailing. You pay a premium for a purpose built machine to (hopefully) be the best thing for you and your purpose. When you sell it you get peanuts for it because it's effectively an orphan, regardless of whether it was designed/built by an industry guru. The flip side is you buy a production product for probably a bit less money, but as production items are, there is compromise, but most likely a greater resale market also.
There is a very valid point in that there is basically nothing made for someone my size. I acknowledge and accept that. My search is for what is effectively the next best thing. At the moment, that appears to be the Fanatic Falcon, based on ( in no particular order) majority opinion, price, perceived resale and availability. I will explore the DC route, but concede my budget has it's limits.
Part of my starting this thread was to explore my options as I didn't know all of what was available and thanks to those that have contributed, my view has shifted somewhat from when i first started going down this path.
Everyone has made me think and consider the points put forward and the more I hear, the better informed I will be when i make a decision.
Thanks!
Have you thought of one of the old 12'6" x 30.5" white and red Fanatic Fly circa 2011? They are a brilliant board and very, very stable and can handle big weight. You could probably pick up a second hand carbon for around a grand dependant on condition. There's a wood sandwich model in Terrigal for $800.00 in the for sale section. Worth considering I reckon![]()
and they can do Flatwater, Downwind and even surf as long as you get the displacement hull out of the water.![]()
* Not many for sale - just shows how good they are!!
a falcon 14' x 30" or a dc custom is my call.
actually mate i know a dc 14' x 30" full carbon board that is second hand at dales factory.
the guy only used it a handful of times. strong as and as light as. no expense was spared on this board
i think its going at a bargain price. really excellent condition.
i've a picture of it going back through my files
Well I can scratch the used DC14 off the list. Has sat there for months and sold 2 hours after i enquired about it...
Well I tried the Carbon Starboard 14' Touring and the HRS Fanatic Falcon. Used the same Paddle, fin and section of water.
The Starboard was first. Far less stable, quite flighty (maybe because it's carbon), very stiff, not that easy to turn, sensitive to weight distribution. Maybe marginally faster.
The Fanatic was way more stable, harder to paddle through the water (it's reasonably heavy), more maneuverable but seemed to glide better. The board would flex under my weight which felt a bit odd.
Not sure if the Carbon Falcon would be stiffer though.
Anyone's thoughts?
I like the Fanatic to be honest and I would suggest that for us more generously proportioned people a carbon race board is the go. Your right the flex you can feel is particularly unsettling and over time I reckon is starts to frustrate you. Just my 2cents worth
Well, after a whole lot of research and study and my ever decreasing bank balance, the 14' x 30" Falcon HRS has won the day.
Left a deposit with the good men at RPS and hope to pick up in a couple of weeks.
Thanks everyone for your input. I really appreciate it!
Well, after a whole lot of research and study and my ever decreasing bank balance, the 14' x 30" Falcon HRS has won the day.
Left a deposit with the good men at RPS and hope to pick up in a couple of weeks.
Thanks everyone for your input. I really appreciate it!
nice one...we'll see you on the water