i own a simpson cat based on the cloud 10,i would like some ideas for bring down the mps single handed, my thoughts are unfurl the genoa have a small tack line to the clew letter box this under the genoa ,release tack pull the the tack , clew line to the mast and start lowering the spinker halyard,i am hoping the tack line to the clew will douse the mps enougth to get it on board.
would love some advice as to if this would work or is there another way
i dont have a sock or a furler
Using a take down line tied to the tack is probably the easiest for single handing. This is an extra line to the tack line. See here;
Select to expand quoter13 said..
Using a take down line tied to the tack is probably the easiest for single handing. This is an extra line to the tack line. See here;
thanks for the reply,i've studied that video on line quit a few times, my worry is i can not release the clew sheet as the winch is at the rear of the boat and my halyard is at the mast.i have searched you tube for videos but none show a sigle hand take down.
Hi Grich,
Some suggestions:
Prep
- Have a big bag on the foredeck lashed to the mast or a couple of sail ties over your shoulders to tie off/stow the kite.
- Flake out your spinnaker halyard and tack lines.
- Ease main out fully.
-Gybe preventer on.
-Set autohelm to run as deep as you can.
- Sheet in the kite to bring the clew in and position the sheet length so the clew is reachable from the mast position when the kite collapses. Lock it off if its back in the cockpit.
Takedown
- Unfurl headsail. Sheet it to blanket kite but give yourself working room.
- Blow the spinnaker tack line. Fully. So the 'luff' is out forrard flapping in the breeze.
- The sail should depower and the clew collapse inwards to the centre line.
- Drop the kite halyard out of the jammer/cleat/tailor and ease a good foot or so. Leave it unjammed but with a few wraps on the winch so it slowly pays out as you keep working. (Try a few different wrap amounts to get it feeding nice).
- Gather the clew (If you cant reach the clew, you're not running deep enough). Gather in the foot till you get to your tack.
- Drop more wraps of the halyard winch and accelerate the drop. Gather the kite in as you can and stuff it in bag/tie off.
Post
-After kite is temporarily secured, set autopilot to head up a bit, give yourself a nice comfortable angle, don't stay heading ddw.
-Take your time cleaning up the lines/kite.
Cheers!
SB
OK. Sounds like your halyard cleat needs to come back to where it is accessible from the cockpit.
I saw a J boat video a few weeks ago of a single hander sailor using the tack take down line method but can't find it now. But in searching came across this org including excellent resources - surely a solution must be included in there somewhere maybe in their forum chats or in the book?
www.sfbaysss.org/main/resources/
www.sfbaysss.org/resource/doc/SinglehandedTipsThirdEdition2.pdf
Just an after thought; when blowing the tack, if you can use a form of quick release on the tack like a Tylaska trigger release, that's even better'er than trying to get the tack line to run clean.
Select to expand quoteshaggybaxter said..
Hi Grich,
Some suggestions:
Prep
- Have a big bag on the foredeck lashed to the mast or a couple of sail ties over your shoulders to tie off/stow the kite.
- Flake out your spinnaker halyard and tack lines.
- Ease main out fully.
-Gybe preventer on.
-Set autohelm to run as deep as you can.
- Sheet in the kite to bring the clew in and position the sheet length so the clew is reachable from the mast position when the kite collapses. Lock it off if its back in the cockpit.
Takedown
- Unfurl headsail. Sheet it to blanket kite but give yourself working room.
- Blow the spinnaker tack line. Fully. So the 'luff' is out forrard flapping in the breeze.
- The sail should depower and the clew collapse inwards to the centre line.
- Drop the kite halyard out of the jammer/cleat/tailor and ease a good foot or so. Leave it unjammed but with a few wraps on the winch so it slowly pays out as you keep working. (Try a few different wrap amounts to get it feeding nice).
- Gather the clew (If you cant reach the clew, you're not running deep enough). Gather in the foot till you get to your tack.
- Drop more wraps of the halyard winch and accelerate the drop. Gather the kite in as you can and stuff it in bag/tie off.
Post
-After kite is temporarily secured, set autopilot to head up a bit, give yourself a nice comfortable angle, don't stay heading ddw.
-Take your time cleaning up the lines/kite.
Cheers!
SB
Thank SB, thats some pretty well thought out options there if i can get the steps figured out in my head i will give that ago
Select to expand quoteshaggybaxter said..
Just an after thought; when blowing the tack, if you can use a form of quick release on the tack like a Tylaska trigger release, that's even better'er than trying to get the tack line to run clean.
i have 3 hatches close by, would it be ok maybe shove it down one of them
Select to expand quoter13 said..
OK. Sounds like your halyard cleat needs to come back to where it is accessible from the cockpit.
I saw a J boat video a few weeks ago of a single hander sailor using the tack take down line method but can't find it now. But in searching came across this org including excellent resources - surely a solution must be included in there somewhere maybe in their forum chats or in the book?
www.sfbaysss.org/main/resources/
www.sfbaysss.org/resource/doc/SinglehandedTipsThirdEdition2.pdf
thanks r13 i will read up on that book
Select to expand quotegrich62 said..shaggybaxter said..
Just an after thought; when blowing the tack, if you can use a form of quick release on the tack like a Tylaska trigger release, that's even better'er than trying to get the tack line to run clean.
i have 3 hatches close by, would it be ok maybe shove it down one of them
Good idea - also use a retrieval line to the kite as per here, lead down the hatch;
www.uksailmakers.com/news/2020/2/20/how-to-the-string-drop-takedown
You've probably seen this - we have done all 3, some more than once.............
www.quantumsails.com/en/resources-and-expertise/articles/three-common-spinnaker-mishaps-and-how-to-fix-them
