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Created by Mike367 > 9 months ago, 4 Jun 2022
Mike367
VIC, 150 posts
4 Jun 2022 3:30PM
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Hi all,

I'm curious as how to dispose of a boat that you don't want if you can't sell it or even give it away.
If a novice like me were to buy a small boat to do his "apprenticeship" on, what does he do with his old boat when he upgrades?
It could take weeks, months, or years to sell his little old learner sail boat. He has one mooring and it's time to move on, what does he do?
I'm talking about keel boats, a trailer sailer would be easier to store while waiting for a buyer.
And with a TS half the cost is in the trailer, but that might be a better learner option.

I ask because there is a nice (from the photos), looking Endeavour 24 for sale near me.
www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1985-endeavour-24-mkii/SSE-AD-7510024/?Cr=10
Cheers,
Mike.

UncleBob
NSW, 1299 posts
4 Jun 2022 4:24PM
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Mike367 said..
Hi all,

I'm curious as how to dispose of a boat that you don't want if you can't sell it or even give it away.
If a novice like me were to buy a small boat to do his "apprenticeship" on, what does he do with his old boat when he upgrades?
It could take weeks, months, or years to sell his little old learner sail boat. He has one mooring and it's time to move on, what does he do?
I'm talking about keel boats, a trailer sailer would be easier to store while waiting for a buyer.
And with a TS half the cost is in the trailer, but that might be a better learner option.

I ask because there is a nice (from the photos), looking Endeavour 24 for sale near me.
www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1985-endeavour-24-mkii/SSE-AD-7510024/?Cr=10
Cheers,
Mike.


Looking at the pics, if you were to buy it, keep up the maintenance, keep it clean etc you won't have any problems offloading it in a couple of years.

FabulousPhill
VIC, 320 posts
4 Jun 2022 6:41PM
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Like Bob says, a boat like will easily sell, so long as it is in reasonably clean condition.
There are brokerages to sell yachts in Westernport, at both Yaringa and at Hastings marinas. Otherwise there is Ebay and Gumtree. You have the choice of a fixed price or a minimum price level. Or some Marketplace on FB.

Recently in the same area, there was the same model of yacht but with a diesel engine (unmaintained) seeking $4000. It sat on my swing mooring without the buyer transferring the mooring, so I got the blame.

julesmoto
NSW, 1569 posts
5 Jun 2022 7:17AM
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Mike367 said..
Hi all,

I'm curious as how to dispose of a boat that you don't want if you can't sell it or even give it away.
If a novice like me were to buy a small boat to do his "apprenticeship" on, what does he do with his old boat when he upgrades?
It could take weeks, months, or years to sell his little old learner sail boat. He has one mooring and it's time to move on, what does he do?
I'm talking about keel boats, a trailer sailer would be easier to store while waiting for a buyer.
And with a TS half the cost is in the trailer, but that might be a better learner option.

I ask because there is a nice (from the photos), looking Endeavour 24 for sale near me.
www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1985-endeavour-24-mkii/SSE-AD-7510024/?Cr=10
Cheers,
Mike.






Possibly not legal but I have always thought that sailing a few miles off shore into deep water and opening the sea cocks with a mate in another boat standing by and after having emptied the fuel tank and removed any items that float might be a good option.
That said I think the other options mentioned above make more sense.

Ramona
NSW, 7732 posts
5 Jun 2022 8:39AM
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There would be no problem selling on that vessel. The easiest way to get rid of old yachts is to give Jonathon a call at Regatta Yachts. He also trades on eBay as Maxiyachts.
www.ebay.com.au/itm/165511755473?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D71fc69567ba946c2aba9ea6972bb1666%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D275336236771%26itm%3D165511755473%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A2cbee13f-e456-11ec-a2b2-e2cfe0958afe%7Cparentrq%3A30d8ea091810a6e66cf1618ffffefbbd%7Ciid%3A14

I have bought a previous yacht from him and so has a mate of mine and I have met him on several occasions.

FabulousPhill
VIC, 320 posts
5 Jun 2022 9:31AM
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julesmoto said.. that sailing a few miles off shore into deep water and opening the sea cocks




Someone tried that off the Adelaide coast, and they hoped to make/add to an artificial reef, to come back to later and fish there.
They were prosecuted under environmental. I don't recall it they were jailed or simply fined heavily; it was one of the two.

www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-14/man-fined-for-deliberately-sinking-boat-to-create-reef/100291800

julesmoto
NSW, 1569 posts
5 Jun 2022 9:55AM
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FabulousPhill said..

julesmoto said.. that sailing a few miles off shore into deep water and opening the sea cocks





Someone tried that off the Adelaide coast, and they hoped to make/add to an artificial reef, to come back to later and fish there.
They were prosecuted under environmental. I don't recall it they were jailed or simply fined heavily; it was one of the two.

www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-14/man-fined-for-deliberately-sinking-boat-to-create-reef/100291800


Maybe 12 miles offshore then although certainly not where there is a reef or any other shallow water. Maybe turn your GPS and any instruments off too :-)

Madmouse
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5 Jun 2022 8:02AM
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julesmoto said..

FabulousPhill said..


julesmoto said.. that sailing a few miles off shore into deep water and opening the sea cocks






Someone tried that off the Adelaide coast, and they hoped to make/add to an artificial reef, to come back to later and fish there.
They were prosecuted under environmental. I don't recall it they were jailed or simply fined heavily; it was one of the two.

www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-14/man-fined-for-deliberately-sinking-boat-to-cobably landfill is a more responsible option.reate-reef/100291800



Maybe 12 miles offshore then although certainly not where there is a reef or any other shallow water. Maybe turn your GPS and any instruments off too :-)


Probably more responsible option is landfill.

sydchris
NSW, 387 posts
5 Jun 2022 10:59AM
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Ramona said..
There would be no problem selling on that vessel. The easiest way to get rid of old yachts is to give Jonathon a call at Regatta Yachts. He also trades on eBay as Maxiyachts.



Yes but he doesn't work for free - I offered a free boat to him a while back and he replied that it would cost me $1500 for him to take it. I put it on Gumtree and got rid of it that way.

sydchris
NSW, 387 posts
5 Jun 2022 11:02AM
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FabulousPhill said..



julesmoto said.. that sailing a few miles off shore into deep water and opening the sea cocks






julesmoto said..




Maybe 12 miles offshore then although certainly not where there is a reef or any other shallow water. Maybe turn your GPS and any instruments off too :-)



Maybe in deep water but by a reef or other well known obstruction, that way it won't get entangled in trawling nets etc. ;-)

Obviously landfill is the most responsible option, but not the cheapest.

Mike367
VIC, 150 posts
5 Jun 2022 12:35PM
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Thanks everyone, you have eased my concerns on that matter.

I suppose the next thing is contact the seller for more info.

And look into swing moorings down my way, probably in Western port.

Cheers,
Mike.

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
5 Jun 2022 1:51PM
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You have probably seen this prior thread including discussion on how E24s sail including a reported somewhat vague steering characteristic probably due imho to an over balance of the rudder area forward of the stock. That is the % of rudder area fwd of the stock was too large compared to the total area and the centre of effort of the rudder was too far forward hence not giving a good balance to the rudder and tiller by means of a very small bit of weather helm bite. I had this issue on a VdS Black Soo and had to cut some area off the rudder fwd of the stock and re-shape the leading edge - it was fine after that.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Roberts-25-is-it-really-a-floating-caravan?page=1

Maybe this was rectified in the MkII - you could ask or go for a trial sail. The Honda 2hp would get you on and off the mooring in a calm breeze day but a 5hp Mercury 2 stroke would be more ideal. Good luck with it - it must have been one of the last E24s built - 340 were built.

Ramona
NSW, 7732 posts
5 Jun 2022 6:39PM
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My Endeavor was a Mk 2. The oldest lad is almost 50 now!



r13
NSW, 1712 posts
5 Jun 2022 8:32PM
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Ramona said..
My Endeavor was a Mk 2. The oldest lad is almost 50 now!




Cripes where has the time gone...........



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