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Volvo Penta 2003 water coming out of air intake

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Created by Aedan > 9 months ago, 26 Apr 2022
Aedan
11 posts
26 Apr 2022 6:30PM
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Hi,
the engine hasn't started for the last couple of years, I replaced the oil and filters and tried to start it but it doesn't, after a few attempts I noticed there is water coming out from the air intake. any recommendations guys?
Thanks

stray
SA, 325 posts
26 Apr 2022 8:25PM
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If you tried to start it but it would only turn a partial revolution, id say it has water in the cylinders which can cause damage such as broken rings, bent Con rods etc.
for starters you need to pull the injectors out and get the water out of the cylinders ASAP. Flush with crc, wd40 or similar. Next figure out how the water got there and solve that problem.
After you've sorted the water getting in and providing the motor turns over ok do a compression test to determine whether or not rings are broken etc.
If it checks out ok you should be able to change the oil, start it, run for a while, change the oil, repeat till you are happy all the moisture is out of it.
If compression is down, it will need pistons out for checking.

Schoonerriffic
NSW, 12 posts
27 Apr 2022 8:02AM
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Aedan said..
Hi,
the engine hasn't started for the last couple of years, I replaced the oil and filters and tried to start it but it doesn't, after a few attempts I noticed there is water coming out from the air intake. any recommendations guys?
Thanks


Hi, I sent you a pm but you might not see it.

If your boat is raw water cooled and you had the seacock opened whilst a lot of cranking, there is a high chance it back flowed water back into the engine... Keep the seacock off until the engine kicks then turn it on. Diesels are pretty hardy and depending on how much water was coming out (dripping), you should get away with just bleeding/flushing the system and new oil etc.

Karsten
NSW, 331 posts
29 Apr 2022 12:44PM
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Schoonerriffic said..

If your boat is raw water cooled and you had the seacock opened whilst a lot of cranking, there is a high chance it back flowed water back into the engine...


Hope you don't mind if I try to understand the details of how this happens.
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I assume the water comes from the filled up lift muffler, and gets into the cylinders via the exhaust manifold.
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If that is the case, then why could the same thing not happen for a heat-exchanger cooled engine (i.e. not raw water cooled)?

UncleBob
NSW, 1299 posts
29 Apr 2022 1:37PM
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Karsten said..

Schoonerriffic said..

If your boat is raw water cooled and you had the seacock opened whilst a lot of cranking, there is a high chance it back flowed water back into the engine...



Hope you don't mind if I try to understand the details of how this happens.
.
I assume the water comes from the filled up lift muffler, and gets into the cylinders via the exhaust manifold.
.
If that is the case, then why could the same thing not happen for a heat-exchanger cooled engine (i.e. not raw water cooled)?


It can, easily. Most marine engines are raw water cooled insofar as the cooling medium is the water in which we sail, the bulk use a heat exchanger/coolant arrangement, some just the water to the engine (raw water cooled). Definitely keep the intake closed when attempting to start a delinquent engine or one that hasn't run for extended periods.

Schoonerriffic
NSW, 12 posts
30 Apr 2022 7:05AM
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Karsten said..

Schoonerriffic said..

If your boat is raw water cooled and you had the seacock opened whilst a lot of cranking, there is a high chance it back flowed water back into the engine...



Hope you don't mind if I try to understand the details of how this happens.
.
I assume the water comes from the filled up lift muffler, and gets into the cylinders via the exhaust manifold.
.
If that is the case, then why could the same thing not happen for a heat-exchanger cooled engine (i.e. not raw water cooled)?


As Unclebob said, it still can. A marine diesel "heat exchanger" is made for raw water systems even if it has a closed circuit using fresh water. There will always be a point where the exhaust gases mixes with the raw water upon exit. Where the gases meet with the raw water is where back flow happens if no back pressure.
The only time a marine engine runs complete fresh water is when it has a dry exhaust. Usually running along a keel or the underside of a hull, there is a long pipe with a series of bends that the fresh water flows through and is cooled by the surrounding sea water..

rooby1690
3 posts
10 May 2022 5:45PM
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Your head gasket

Serb1980
388 posts
13 May 2022 9:28PM
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Schoonerriffic said..

Karsten said..


Schoonerriffic said..

If your boat is raw water cooled and you had the seacock opened whilst a lot of cranking, there is a high chance it back flowed water back into the engine...




Hope you don't mind if I try to understand the details of how this happens.
.
I assume the water comes from the filled up lift muffler, and gets into the cylinders via the exhaust manifold.
.
If that is the case, then why could the same thing not happen for a heat-exchanger cooled engine (i.e. not raw water cooled)?



As Unclebob said, it still can. A marine diesel "heat exchanger" is made for raw water systems even if it has a closed circuit using fresh water. There will always be a point where the exhaust gases mixes with the raw water upon exit. Where the gases meet with the raw water is where back flow happens if no back pressure.
The only time a marine engine runs complete fresh water is when it has a dry exhaust. Usually running along a keel or the underside of a hull, there is a long pipe with a series of bends that the fresh water flows through and is cooled by the surrounding sea water..


You need to change a head gasket and refresh the head. Check the piston.



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