My advice; don't wait that long!........

teatrea said..

Dezman said..
My advice; don't wait that long!........

...... sell my house and buy a luxury yacht and live on that for the rest of my days.

That sounds like a plan

I sent my last dollar on Valkyrie and sailed away up the coast, fishing and bumming along for many miles. The sea wind was an interlude for a taste of multihull sailing for short runs of three months, small space inside. Where if you are going to do it for several years then buy my luxury yacht for a small sum of money 'look in the classifieds'.

teatrea said..

Hi Guys and Girls , I have a plan and need some advice from the old saltsin 5 to 6 years i aim to purchase a cat or tri learn to sail and sail my way around Australia.I am looking at Trailable Tri,s due to the convenience and mobility they offer over cats.I like the idea of being able to beach a boat and sail in shallow water.What are some of the pro-s and Cons of Cats V Tri,s.

Thanks T

Most catamarans these days are built as floating apartments with guest rooms so you can impress your friends who really don't give a rip anyway.

From a perusal of your profile and the pics in your gallery (some really nice artwork there), I would hazard a guess that you are some kind of speed freak and so is your hot blonde girlfriend. Further, you are probably not planning on having offspring for a while either.

Therefore I suggest you would be more satisfied with a tri initially as a tri will beat the pants off an equivalent sized cat any day.

A tri is a mono hull on steroids and then some. Ask Felixdacat. Certainly a tri is easier to get onto a trailer. The best of the folding tris are the Farrier designs.

Check them out here:- f-boat.com/

A cat is two boats joined together making them twice the price and twice the ongoing expences.

A tri is one boat with the keel taken off and flotation pontoons added. The pontoons are for flotation ONLY. They should never be used for storage or accommodation.

Tris do not need to carry large amounts of stores as they get where they are going really quickly so it is not a lot of time between reprovisioning points.

Depending on your financial situation and earning capacity, you probably do not need to wait 5 or 6 years to do what you plan.

A few examples below of some tris that may be capable of circumnavigating Australia.

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=15848751&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=12&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=15893000&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=20&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=15931423&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=25&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=16003643&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=30&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=16167116&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=31&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=16198133&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=47&eapi=2

cisco said..

teatrea said..

Hi Guys and Girls , I have a plan and need some advice from the old saltsin 5 to 6 years i aim to purchase a cat or tri learn to sail and sail my way around Australia.I am looking at Trailable Tri,s due to the convenience and mobility they offer over cats.I like the idea of being able to beach a boat and sail in shallow water.What are some of the pro-s and Cons of Cats V Tri,s.

Thanks T

Most catamarans these days are built as floating apartments with guest rooms so you can impress your friends who really don't give a rip anyway.

From a perusal of your profile and the pics in your gallery (some really nice artwork there), I would hazard a guess that you are some kind of speed freak and so is your hot blonde girlfriend. Further, you are probably not planning on having offspring for a while either.

Therefore I suggest you would be more satisfied with a tri initially as a tri will beat the pants off an equivalent sized cat any day.

A tri is a mono hull on steroids and then some. Ask Felixdacat. Certainly a tri is easier to get onto a trailer. The best of the folding tris are the Farrier designs.

Check them out here:- f-boat.com/

A cat is two boats joined together making them twice the price and twice the ongoing expences.

A tri is one boat with the keel taken off and flotation pontoons added. The pontoons are for flotation ONLY. They should never be used for storage or accommodation.

Tris do not need to carry large amounts of stores as they get where they are going really quickly so it is not a lot of time between reprovisioning points.

Depending on your financial situation and earning capacity, you probably do not need to wait 5 or 6 years to do what you plan.

A few examples below of some tris that may be capable of circumnavigating Australia.

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=15848751&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=12&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=15893000&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=20&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=15931423&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=25&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=16003643&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=30&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=16167116&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=31&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=16198133&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=47&eapi=2

Thanks mate , yes I like to go fast , no I don't have a hot blonde girlfriend I have a hot brunette wife a 16 year old daughter who will be doing her own thing in a few short years. Just have to convince the wife to come with , or I may have to get a hot blonde girlfriend to come with , LOL. Either way im going

Didn't know the whole story, I guess you will have to wait for the daughter to move on.
As for the wife nothing under 40ft and $500,000! Just kidding.

teatrea said..

Dezman said..
My advice; don't wait that long!........

...... unless I just sell my house and buy a luxury yacht and live on that....

thats what i did.

I don't get it. You want a trailer boat to sail around Australia. Does that mean that as you are sailing someone else is going to be towing a trailer around Australia in your footsteps so to speak.

The way I see it you are either going to sail it sometimes and you are going to tow it the rest of the time. Someone enlighten me please.

A Farrier Trailer Tri (680, 720 or even a Tramp) sounds like the perfect yacht for you to start with. However single hand sailing is not recommended especially on a fast multi hull.

The reason being is at speed there is a lot going on and if you fall overboard the yacht will keep going at speed long enough to put an almost impossible distance between you and it for you to have any hope of getting back onboard.

Trailing a rescue line over the stern is not much use either as it is extremely difficult to hold onto a rope behind a boat even at 2 or 3 knots.

Trailer Tris have been selling for around the $15,000 mark but are becoming few and far between as they are fairly old now and people tend to hang onto the good ones because they know they are getting good bang for bucks.

The cheapest F Boats that come up on a search are the F 22s starting at $55,000.

I had a Farrier 720 TT it is a lovely fast boat, I raced it for 1 season and finished Club Champ, but the accommodation is very limited (probably all the tri that size are similar). Do not buy the 680 with the aft cabin as the cokpit is so small and the cabin a bit of a waiste of space.

It is very easy to load on trailer and unfolding and securing the out riggers is a breeze. Mine had a dagger board and I was able to beach it. It was lacking a bow spit but reaching with the asymmetrical deployed was (sometimes) scary fast. I loved it. It is fast and level sailing easy to keep your beer from tipping! She didn't point very high but made it by sheer speed. She hated light wind (below 5 Knt) as she would just roll and throw the boom across.

Now for the bad notes, I know some sailors would disagree with me but my main prob was that it was made of ply wood and not really solid, I had a couple of encounters with the jetty and the jetty won! A few holes in the outriggers! Ply and ribs construction is easy to fix but had enough of it. The boat is very light and not that easy to get to a cross wind jetty??????????????? I became better with practice (going to the jetty and fixing hulls) and lost a few crews over board as well!

I started to miss the feeling of a heeling single hull and sold her to get a Farr 740 sport, I love the challenge, not a very good accommodation but a very sharp single hull.

If it was my choice I would go for a tri anytime, at anchor the cats are a bit shaky I have been told. I will go back to tri sometime when money comes my way and will get a GRP hull.

^^^I can see why Farrier may be doing that. Possibly as his later designs have become high tech and he got burned a bit with Corsair in the U.S., he may want to be ensuring that none of his designs have failures due to amateurs not sticking exactly to the design.