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Transfer ownership.

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Created by welsh > 9 months ago, 19 Jul 2022
welsh
NSW, 87 posts
19 Jul 2022 11:55PM
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So I was at the RMS today in north ryde, wanting to transfer the cav 32 into my name. Problem - after waiting 75 mins to be finally served I was told the boat does not have a HIN and therefor the transfer cannot proceed. when asked how I can correct this as the boat was built in 1983 and was not issued one I was given a blank look and told to look it up online. Absolutely no help at all. When I then enquired if there is a problem getting one within the 14 days of transfer window , I was bluntly advised I'd be fined. WTF.
ANYHOO, I did go on line and rang four places , 3 said either can't or no longer doing them , the other said they will email a person who might help. any advice here will be greatly appreciated. The boat is a cav 32 moored in Drummoyne bay. I need this done by end of next week. cheers and thanks welsh

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
20 Jul 2022 6:55AM
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One of the companies listed here should be able to do it. Gladesville Bridge Marina?

www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating-and-transport/boat-and-vessel-registration/vessel-labels-and-id/find-a-boatcode-agent

welsh
NSW, 87 posts
20 Jul 2022 8:46AM
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Thankyou R13. Yes Gladesville is one of the companies I've contacted. cheers welsh.

sparau
QLD, 125 posts
20 Jul 2022 12:35PM
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So I take it writing a random number sequence on the main bulkhead and giving them that wont work?
: p. 'Yes sir, that is the HIN, I don't know why you don't have that on record.'

Bushdog
SA, 312 posts
20 Jul 2022 12:48PM
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Vic doesn't require HINs to transfer boat rego. In Qld it's $30 and fill out a form, get your HIN immediately. NSW passed the HIN registration over to the BIA (Boating Industry Association) and it was made into a costly process. If previous suggestions don't work, contact the BIA, or a dinghy manufacturer that has to get HINS for all their new boats. When you get it, maybe go back to a different Service NSW office. I've rarely swapped rego's over within 14 days and have never been fined.

cammd
QLD, 4288 posts
20 Jul 2022 1:51PM
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If information on state rego was in contradiction to the Australian ships register which would take precedence as proof of ownership.

john24
84 posts
20 Jul 2022 1:34PM
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cammd said..
If information on state rego was in contradiction to the Australian ships register which would take precedence as proof of ownership.


Australian ships register would have precedence in my view, but that would be subject to later dated bill of sale. A state rego transfer might be taken as a bill of sale if there is no other document, but I would definitely get the owner details matching if they weren't at the moment.

One boat I looked at was on the ships register, it was subsequently sold to A UK based person who got British registration. Boat didn't leave Australia due to Covid and later sold to an Australian based person. It's still on the register and I bet the previous owner did not get it removed from the register and is likely listed as the current owner despite the NSW rego showing different and being transferred twice.

Since there is not an annual fee for Australian registration, I bet there are many ships that no longer exist on the register.

Toph
WA, 1871 posts
20 Jul 2022 7:12PM
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cammd said..
If information on state rego was in contradiction to the Australian ships register which would take precedence as proof of ownership.


Neither, and I can say that from first hand experience. But I'd say state registration would hold more weight.



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