Forums > Sailing General

Sternglands

Reply
Created by MrMac > 9 months ago, 30 Nov 2020
MrMac
ACT, 49 posts
30 Nov 2020 5:08PM
Thumbs Up

Hi Everyone,
Has been a while since I have been on here.
Have a situation where I need to replace a volvo type sterngland that was only installed less than 2 years ago but apparently may have not been installed correctly and probably no recourse as marina where it was done has changed hands. The most annoying part is that due to other issues its probably only been used for about 40hrs.
Just wondering whether anyone has installed the PPS type in their boat over the last few years and what sort of result have had with them.

Thanks in adviance for your comments.

Cheers
MrMac

tarquin1
954 posts
30 Nov 2020 2:39PM
Thumbs Up

I think you cant go wrong with good old bronze.



Jode5
QLD, 853 posts
30 Nov 2020 4:44PM
Thumbs Up

I have had no issues with my PSS gland. If installed correctly they are basically maintenance free. My gland is 6 years old with 1000 hours on it. There is no dripping so the boat is 100% dry. Is the existing gland a PSS or are you looking to replace the existing gland with a PSS?

Lazzz
NSW, 902 posts
30 Nov 2020 7:04PM
Thumbs Up

I just installed a PSS gland at the last haul out & it was very easy to install.

No water gets in the boat at all & maintenance free - great new technology

Wavesong
QLD, 145 posts
30 Nov 2020 6:58PM
Thumbs Up

+1 for Volvo dripless.
Had it installed in June and more than happy with it.

Bushdog
SA, 312 posts
30 Nov 2020 7:46PM
Thumbs Up

Two votes for PPS - from the left and right hull prop shafts:)

MorningBird
NSW, 2700 posts
30 Nov 2020 8:21PM
Thumbs Up

Volvo dripless installed in 2012. Didn't leak a drop up till I sold the boat this year. I believe it is still dry.

tarquin1
954 posts
30 Nov 2020 6:02PM
Thumbs Up

Depends on the set up. On a wooden boat that had quite a bit of movement over time we tried both Volvo and PSS and didn't get more than 2 years out of either. Loads of problems. The good old bronze stuffing box did the job. Its a wooden boat so there was always some water in the bilge anyhow.

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
30 Nov 2020 9:45PM
Thumbs Up

Just replaced a 10yo Volvo dripless with the same. Easy to do, took about 40mins. Dry as a bone and simple to service.

MrMac
ACT, 49 posts
1 Dec 2020 10:41AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Jode5 said..
I have had no issues with my PSS gland. If installed correctly they are basically maintenance free. My gland is 6 years old with 1000 hours on it. There is no dripping so the boat is 100% dry. Is the existing gland a PSS or are you looking to replace the existing gland with a PSS?


Hi Jode5,

I believe the one that was only installed 2 years ago and had only done about 40hrs was a Volvo type.

Cheers

MrMac

MrMac
ACT, 49 posts
1 Dec 2020 10:52AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
tarquin1 said..
Depends on the set up. On a wooden boat that had quite a bit of movement over time we tried both Volvo and PSS and didn't get more than 2 years out of either. Loads of problems. The good old bronze stuffing box did the job. Its a wooden boat so there was always some water in the bilge anyhow.


Hi tarquin,
Thanks for your response. I actually have a refurbish bronze one that I purchased to originally to replace the faulty one 2 years ago but was told by the Marina mechanic at the time that I was better off installing the Volvo dripless seal. As mentioned in my original post appears it possibly wasn't installed correctly and even having only done about 40hrs apparently its split. Your advice given my boat is essentially wooden has been taken on board.

Cheers

MrMac

MrMac
ACT, 49 posts
1 Dec 2020 10:55AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Azure305 said..
Just replaced a 10yo Volvo dripless with the same. Easy to do, took about 40mins. Dry as a bone and simple to service.


Hi Azure,

Did you have to slip your boat to do the change over?

Cheers

MrMac

Wavesong
QLD, 145 posts
1 Dec 2020 10:22AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
MrMac said..

Azure305 said..
Just replaced a 10yo Volvo dripless with the same. Easy to do, took about 40mins. Dry as a bone and simple to service.



Hi Azure,

Did you have to slip your boat to do the change over?

Cheers

MrMac


Sorry to jump in but, yes, the boat definitely needs to be out of the water.

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
1 Dec 2020 2:59PM
Thumbs Up

...and yes, it was.

Yara
NSW, 1308 posts
1 Dec 2020 3:39PM
Thumbs Up

Assuming not a manufacturing fault, the only reason I can think of that a Volvo gland would split, is if it had a high torque load. Possibly lots of friction from lack of water. Standard procedure after slipping is to burp the seal to get rid of the air. Maybe that was not done?
Silly question, but is the seal above the water line?

MrMac
ACT, 49 posts
1 Dec 2020 3:46PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Yara said..
Assuming not a manufacturing fault, the only reason I can think of that a Volvo gland would split, is if it had a high torque load. Possibly lots of friction from lack of water. Standard procedure after slipping is to burp the seal to get rid of the air. Maybe that was not done?
Silly question, but is the seal above the water line?


Yara would have to check that. The boat is only shallow keel I would probably have to check it out.

tarquin1
954 posts
1 Dec 2020 1:11PM
Thumbs Up

We had a problem with the Volvo seal. We think the stern tube is a bit too small and there wasn't enough water getting through. It would get warm when motoring and we had to keep burping it too cool it down. We kept greasing it as well. Eventually it got damaged and leaked a lot. Scarry moment.

Lazzz
NSW, 902 posts
1 Dec 2020 4:24PM
Thumbs Up

The new PSS seals have an outlet where you connect a hose so that no air is trapped & ensures that there is always water present to keep the mating faces cool. This eliminates the need for burping, which wasn't always carried out when slipping, & the mating surfaces getting very hot & possibly failing!!

MrMac
ACT, 49 posts
2 Dec 2020 8:46AM
Thumbs Up

Given that the Volvo dripless sterngland doesn't have one this is probably what happened. How do you burp a sterngland that doesnt have the tube?

Lazzz
NSW, 902 posts
2 Dec 2020 9:18AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
MrMac said..
Given that the Volvo dripless sterngland doesn't have one this is probably what happened. How do you burp a sterngland that doesnt have the tube?


To burp it you have to compress the tube / push aft away from the mating faces to let water in & air out.
It's not hard but remembering to do it sometimes is!!

zilla
144 posts
3 Dec 2020 7:49PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
tarquin1 said..
Its a wooden boat so there was always some water in the bilge anyhow.


What you mean to say is this... "It's a boat that hasn't been built or maintained properly so there was always some water in the bilge anyhow". Wood, fibreglass, steel, carbon fibre, etc is of no relevance.
My timber yacht is dry. I also installed a Volvo Penta "rubber stuffing box" and not yet had a problem.

tarquin1
954 posts
3 Dec 2020 9:23PM
Thumbs Up

Its a wooden sailboat that gets pushed hard so leaks a bit sometimes. Rudder post has a traditional bronze stuffing box that drips when sailing as well.
There's not Always water in the bilge.
As I said a prop company here thinks the stern tube was too small and not enough water was getting through to keep it cool. We had to continually burp it and eventually it split. Sounds similar to what happened to Mr Mac.

MrMac
ACT, 49 posts
8 Dec 2020 10:04AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Lazzz said..

MrMac said..
Given that the Volvo dripless sterngland doesn't have one this is probably what happened. How do you burp a sterngland that doesnt have the tube?



To burp it you have to compress the tube / push aft away from the mating faces to let water in & air out.
It's not hard but remembering to do it sometimes is!!


Thanks for the heads up Lazzz



Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Sailing General


"Sternglands" started by MrMac