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S&S 24

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Created by DrogueOne > 9 months ago, 29 Oct 2020
DrogueOne
215 posts
29 Oct 2020 8:09AM
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I'm surprised the S&S fans haven't spotted this yet, it's been 24 hours or so .

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/sparkman-stephens-24/253538

Photos seen to be from the refit done up to 2013. Has a link to the Dolphin 24 website which has some history on this little boat. Not really my style but looks like a neat little pocket cruiser. Could be tempted, anyone want to go halves?


dolphin24.org/bluegum.html
Some details about another sailed from NZ to France from 2003-2005 linked from above page.

BlueMoon
866 posts
29 Oct 2020 1:21PM
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Moored just up from me, am looking across at it as I type this. Yes photos I'd say are years old, haven't seen it off the mooring in over a year.
Could have a preliminary look at it if anyone is interested.

DrogueOne
215 posts
30 Oct 2020 8:02AM
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BlueMoon said..
Moored just up from me, am looking across at it as I type this. Yes photos I'd say are years old, haven't seen it off the mooring in over a year.
Could have a preliminary look at it if anyone is interested.


Ha! that is too funny. I expect anywhere there is a navigable waterway there will be someone who is on this forum.

No real interest in purchasing her, internet sailing is still all I have in Melbin. A current pic or two would be interesting though.

I thought it might generate a bit of conversation, Unusual, Perhaps appealing to the S&S fans to weigh in on it's seaworthiness or not. It's pretty rare top come across a boat that has such well documented history, you have a number of pages on the dolphin website, lots of photos showing the results of a 12 year refit and enough clues as to what has happened to her since that owner sold her. I am really impressed with the quality of the work done in fitting her out, pity there is no photos of the engine installation. The first thing I noticed though was the big windvane, and the odd way it pivots. Struck me as a bit cumbersome having so much mass low down near the water even when the blade is pivoted up. Haven't really looked closely enough at it to understand how it works yet.

Mike367
VIC, 150 posts
30 Oct 2020 4:11PM
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DrogueOne said..
I'm surprised the S&S fans haven't spotted this yet, it's been 24 hours or so .

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/sparkman-stephens-24/253538

Photos seen to be from the refit done up to 2013. Has a link to the Dolphin 24 website which has some history on this little boat. Not really my style but looks like a neat little pocket cruiser. Could be tempted, anyone want to go halves?


dolphin24.org/bluegum.html
Some details about another sailed from NZ to France from 2003-2005 linked from above page.


Go halves? Haha, I thought you might have been serious, for a minute.

I mean it would cut down the individual expenses, but could cause all sorts of problems..

DrogueOne
215 posts
31 Oct 2020 11:09AM
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Hi Mike,
Always half serious in everything, but time and logistics tend to temper the irrational. I often need a co-conspirator to push me over the edge.

That said after reading a couple of "boat share" discussions here I actually kind of like the idea. Certainly covid and the resulting travel restrictions have clipped my wings this year and most likely next.

So, no one have anything to say about the S&S 24? I like the rattan cane work in the cabin, looks great. Also the little swing down seat at the galley is kind of cool, very functional.

looking for more info I followed the links to find the PO son had cruised her for 6 months or so and made some youtube videos. Looks like they had a good family vacation but I watched to see how she sailed so did a bit of fast forwarding.



Edit: didn't realize the video would appear in the post, changed to the first one that worked.

Flatty
QLD, 239 posts
31 Oct 2020 1:32PM
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I saw it for sale 18 months ago or whenever it was. Looking at the shape, I reckon they would be a good sea-boat for 24ft, although i have never stepped foot on one before.

The S&S 24 design seems like a bit of a dud in the market. They are a small boat inside whith not enough room to comfortably sleep over 2 people and look like more of a single-handed type boat. You would be much better off with a spacesailer 24 which has about twice the volume of the S&S 24.
IMO they are too small to be an offshore cruiser for more than a solo sailor, and too big (drafty) to get into the shallow waters that you would want to get into in a 24 footer. Therefore i dont believe they are very popular because of the design being not want buyers want.

Although i would like to add that they probably are perfect for someone who wants to do some solo cruising. They look like one of the most seaworthy 24 footers around, but as said above i dont think many people are in the market for this type of boat. I doubt he will sell it for $16000.

Note: the above is my own opinion, i have never sailed or even walked over one.

Zzzzzz
513 posts
31 Oct 2020 12:43PM
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DrogueOne said..
Hi Mike,
Always half serious in everything, but time and logistics tend to temper the irrational. I often need a co-conspirator to push me over the edge.

That said after reading a couple of "boat share" discussions here I actually kind of like the idea. Certainly covid and the resulting travel restrictions have clipped my wings this year and most likely next.

So, no one have anything to say about the S&S 24? I like the rattan cane work in the cabin, looks great. Also the little swing down seat at the galley is kind of cool, very functional.

looking for more info I followed the links to find the PO son had cruised her for 6 months or so and made some youtube videos. Looks like they had a good family vacation but I watched to see how she sailed so did a bit of fast forwarding.


Edit: didn't realize the video would appear in the post, changed to the first one that worked.


I really like it , very nice fittout for a small boat , I followed you links and was interesting reading, I am very much a small boat person I don't know why but if I had a choice it is always the small boat , then again I just about go sailing ever day , not so easy in bigger boat .

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
31 Oct 2020 4:18PM
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DrogueOne said..
Hi Mike,
Always half serious in everything, but time and logistics tend to temper the irrational. I often need a co-conspirator to push me over the edge.

That said after reading a couple of "boat share" discussions here I actually kind of like the idea. Certainly covid and the resulting travel restrictions have clipped my wings this year and most likely next.

So, no one have anything to say about the S&S 24? I like the rattan cane work in the cabin, looks great. Also the little swing down seat at the galley is kind of cool, very functional.

looking for more info I followed the links to find the PO son had cruised her for 6 months or so and made some youtube videos. Looks like they had a good family vacation but I watched to see how she sailed so did a bit of fast forwarding.


Edit: didn't realize the video would appear in the post, changed to the first one that worked.



I really like it , very nice fittout for a small boat , I followed you links and was interesting reading, I am very much a small boat person I don't know why but if I had a choice it is always the small boat , then again I just about go sailing ever day , not so easy in bigger boat .


Be quick.
My information is a buyer who missed out last time has just inspected it.
It will be gone this week!

DrogueOne
215 posts
31 Oct 2020 3:12PM
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Flatty said..
I saw it for sale 18 months ago or whenever it was. Looking at the shape, I reckon they would be a good sea-boat for 24ft, although i have never stepped foot on one before.

The S&S 24 design seems like a bit of a dud in the market. They are a small boat inside whith not enough room to comfortably sleep over 2 people and look like more of a single-handed type boat. You would be much better off with a spacesailer 24 which has about twice the volume of the S&S 24.
IMO they are too small to be an offshore cruiser for more than a solo sailor, and too big (drafty) to get into the shallow waters that you would want to get into in a 24 footer. Therefore i dont believe they are very popular because of the design being not want buyers want.

Although i would like to add that they probably are perfect for someone who wants to do some solo cruising. They look like one of the most seaworthy 24 footers around, but as said above i dont think many people are in the market for this type of boat. I doubt he will sell it for $16000.


Some good points there Flatty,
It's pretty old, early 70's update to a late 50's design. So, pre-IOR offshore capable little boat. From some of the NZ info they seemed quite popular there in the day. Looks like Blue Gum is the only one in OZ though. Given the number of people that now seem to sail alone, I would have thought there would be some appeal for that style, especially one with such a detailed refit.

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Zzzzzz said..
I really like it , very nice fittout for a small boat , I followed you links and was interesting reading, I am very much a small boat person I don't know why but if I had a choice it is always the small boat , then again I just about go sailing ever day , not so easy in bigger boat .


Me too, I get small is slower but I'm with you given the choice. Good for you sailing every day, nice to see someone does.

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Bundeenabuoy said..
Be quick.
My information is a buyer who missed out last time has just inspected it.
It will be gone this week!


Ah, well good on him/her. Nothing like missing out on something to help focus you on what you really want when the opportunity comes again. I hope she hasn't deteriorated too much in the last two years.



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