Anyone that can name all the different rigs gets a free beer.
What's the sail lashed to the rigging in the far left?
I'll give it a go.
Most look to be gaff rigged schooners and one 3 mastered in the middle.
A ketch on the far right with modern rig and a couple of Bermuda rigged to the left of that.
Some look to be heave ho boats because the lack of winches.
The schooner on the far left maybe a topsail but I'm squinting to make out the rigs.
The lashed sail could be a gollywobbler or the smaller fisherman's sail.
As for the actual rig configuration, there's so much happening in that photo to see clearly.
However I do have my face pressed up to the screen looking like a moth to a lightbulb.
Starting from the right
ketch
sloop
sloop
schooner
three mast schooner
schooner
schooner
theres another on the far right, but too much hidden to guess. Same goes for the rest really. Can see the basics of the rig, but theres a lot hidden cant make out if they have gaffs or not, or how many fore sails they'd set.
I was lucky enough to be there in 2008. (I often think) Stupid enough to come home. Those classic regattas in the Med are a lot of fun.
Best effort so far goes to Schoonerific. I realised I probably couldn't do it after I posted. So many variations of the schooners and gaff topsails.
The sail lashed up there is not a gollywobbler, they are used down wind and it's not a fisherman, they are used for reaching and both come down.
All@Sea if you were on Lucia in 2008 we may have met. I was lucky enough to know Kenny. An amazing guy. I came out here in 96.
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Can see the basics of the rig, but theres a lot hidden cant make out if they have gaffs or not, or how many fore sails they'd set.
The sailcovers will mostly tell if they are gaffers or not. Usually a bermuda sail cover will creep up the mast a little whereas a gaff sail cover will go around the mast straight from the spar and boom.Select to expand quoteAll@Sea said..
I was lucky enough to be there in 2008. (I often think) Stupid enough to come home. Those classic regattas in the Med are a lot of fun.Select to expand quotetarquin1 said..
The sail lashed up there is not a gollywobbler, they are used down wind and it's not a fisherman, they are used for reaching and both come down.
All@Sea if you were on Lucia in 2008 we may have met. I was lucky enough to know Kenny. An amazing guy. I came out here in 96.
You both are lucky to enjoy seeing those boats in full sail at a regatta like that. One of my goto videos on youtube is this one in Palma. There are separate videos talking about a couple of the schooners build and what they are based on.
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Best effort so far goes to Schoonerific. I realised I probably couldn't do it after I posted. So many variations of the schooners and gaff topsails.
The sail lashed up there is not a gollywobbler, they are used down wind and it's not a fisherman, they are used for reaching and both come down.
All@Sea if you were on Lucia in 2008 we may have met. I was lucky enough to know Kenny. An amazing guy. I came out here in 96.
Small world, yes Kenny would be one of, if not the, the most extraordinary - yet humble - people I have ever met. I feel honoured to have met him, and he left us far too soon. Sailing with him on Lucia for a few regattas probably taught me more about sailing than the previous several years - not so much the technical side, but a new appreciation of the whole concept of competitive sailing for pleasure - and that's why we do it, isn't it?
In hindsight I really wish I had found a way to stay over there another season, but finances were an issue with exchange rates and employment opportunities. One of life's biggest regrets.
I think I sailed Antibes, Cannes and St Tropez.
Yes he was a fantastic guy. As you said he left us too soon. Never sailed with him but drank a fair amount of rum with him over the years. Who was full time crew back then, Mat? I can't remember.
Furthest to the left; Naema, replica of the Mylne topsail schooner Panda
Next to her; Elena, replica of the big boat class in the 1928 Transatlantic race, a 136'6" overall Herreshoff two-masted gaff schooner;
Then Shenandoah, ex Baron Bic of America's Cup fame, three masted topsail schooner;
Aschanti IV, Gruber staysail bermudan schooner;
Blitzen, 56' S&S fractional bermudan sloop (formerly cutter) winner of its class in the 1938 Bermuda and overall winner of the 1939 Transpac.
Ikra, ex Soveriegn I think; British 12 Metre America's Cup challenger, fractional bermudan sloop;
Mariella, Mylne gaff ketch.
Tuiga, 15 Metre gaff cutter
Hard to pick the sail - fisherman's topsail?
I have no idea if Chris is on the money or not but I'm impressed. As to the sail, a gaff top sail is the only option that makes any sense to me, as deploying a topsil from the deck especially a big one can be a challenge, for that matter sending a flag staff up through a maize of shrouds/ lazy jacks/ halyards / runners etc is an exercise in planning. ( Nice thread pun intended )
Nice one Chris. Where you there??
He is on the money.
The sail up the rig is a MTS. Main topmast staysail. Someone stays up the rig to tack it over and stow it downwind so they can fly a fisherman or golly.
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Yes he was a fantastic guy. As you said he left us too soon. Never sailed with him but drank a fair amount of rum with him over the years. Who was full time crew back then, Mat? I can't remember.
Yeah, now you mention it it was Mat - from Newfoundland IIRC... and it goes without saying that Jane was always by his side.
This photo was taken not long before I met them - Kenny's sage advice: always wear a good strong belt!
Yep. That's Mat. He is around at the moment. I will show him the photo. I know he's seen it a thousand times but it will bring back some good memories.
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Yep. That's Mat. He is around at the moment. I will show him the photo. I know he's seen it a thousand times but it will bring back some good memories.
Pass on my regards, my time with the crew of Lucia is a pinnacle of an experience I'm unlikely to surpass.
