Pilgrim whereabouts

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stone
stone
WA
243 posts
WA, 243 posts
4 Jan 2013 10:23am
Hi guys.

Just wondering if anyone in Perth knows the whereabouts of Pilgrim. It's an S&S bought by Jon Sanders from a Tim Ratten from Esperance in the late 80's.

She raced out of Esperance through the 70's and 80's against my father in his VDS and as a kid she was a pretty inspiring yacht. Her hull was the best brightest blue I've ever seen on a yacht.

If she is still around be nice to check her out again.

Cheers
Supersonic27
Supersonic27
NSW
235 posts
NSW, 235 posts
4 Jan 2013 10:01pm
Hi, I may be wrong, but Pilgrim was a sistership to mark twain, both S&S 39's

From what I read some time ago, the name was changed to Perie Banou II by Jon Sanders

Happy to stand corrected by more knowledgeable members

Cheers
Rick
stone
stone
WA
243 posts
WA, 243 posts
4 Jan 2013 7:15pm
I reckon you might be right. From memory ( I was 12 ) she was bigger than a 34, had a flush deck, teak maybe.
I looked on the 34 association link and saw a few familiar names. (EOS)
Jon Sanders bought it after his 3x world trip. I'll look through dads old photos and post up.

Cheers
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
2707 posts
NSW, 2707 posts
4 Jan 2013 10:44pm
The S&S39 story rings a bell with me too. I have a contact who was trying to develop a register of 39s. Send me a message and I'll pass it on to him.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
4 Jan 2013 11:19pm
This the boat?
www.flickr.com/photos/figgles1/3068182208/



Mark Twain and her sister ship Pilgrim now known as Perie Banou II and now owned by Jon Sanders, had major battles on the race course in their time, and when they last meet, the competition started as though it never stopped. Mark Twain beat Perie Banou II by the same margin to Hobart, last time they met - 4 hours.

Taken from this web site
www.sail-world.com/Australia/Design-icon-Olin-Stephens-dies/48827
stone
stone
WA
243 posts
WA, 243 posts
4 Jan 2013 8:33pm
YEP. Pretty sure thats her.

Would you know what club she call home now??

Thanks..
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
5 Jan 2013 12:35am
Last known address was Fremantle Sailing Club.
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
5 Jan 2013 1:51pm
PB2 was at Royal Perth annexe at Fremantle when I was there in 2011.

Last race I knew she did was the 2010 (I think) S2H and I don't recall her doing alot since then.

Actually looking on Google Earth she is still there I think.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
5 Jan 2013 5:33pm
rumblefish said...
Actually looking on Google Earth she is still there I think.


And quite possibly still be there in five years time as Google Earth are very slow to update pictures.
Sunseeker39
Sunseeker39
WA
71 posts
WA, 71 posts
5 Jan 2013 3:42pm
Yes Jon Sanders owns PB2 , I passed her leaving Royal Perth Yacht club a few months ago, Not sure where she was heading or what John is up to lately.
We are compiling a list of S&S 39's of which Pilgrim/PB2 is one. Granted a non standard version, its seems to have a quite different layout.
John is yet to furnish us with some photo's so he is not on the website yet - hoping he will soon.
If anyone knows any other 39 owners please send them my way.
We only have 3 on the site but we are awaiting photos from about 6-7 yachts

sites.google.com/site/ss39australia/

Craig
Poodle
Poodle
WA
868 posts
WA, 868 posts
5 Jan 2013 3:42pm
rumblefish said...
PB2 was at Royal Perth annexe at Fremantle when I was there in 2011.

Last race I knew she did was the 2010 (I think) S2H and I don't recall her doing alot since then.

Actually looking on Google Earth she is still there I think.


We saw PB2 our occasionally for the winter series a few years back. I saw her at Royal perth YC Crawley a week before Christmas.

Poods
stone
stone
WA
243 posts
WA, 243 posts
5 Jan 2013 8:30pm
Sunseeker39 said...
Yes Jon Sanders owns PB2 , I passed her leaving Royal Perth Yacht club a few months ago, Not sure where she was heading or what John is up to lately.
We are compiling a list of S&S 39's of which Pilgrim/PB2 is one. Granted a non standard version, its seems to have a quite different layout.
John is yet to furnish us with some photo's so he is not on the website yet - hoping he will soon.
If anyone knows any other 39 owners please send them my way.
We only have 3 on the site but we are awaiting photos from about 6-7 yachts

sites.google.com/site/ss39australia/

Craig


I have a couple of PB2 when she was Pilgrim in full flight from the 70's.
PM me details of where to send.
Sunseeker39
Sunseeker39
WA
71 posts
WA, 71 posts
5 Jan 2013 10:15pm
pm away, speak to you soon
stone
stone
WA
243 posts
WA, 243 posts
1 Feb 2013 5:30pm
For anyone intersted in history PB2 / Pilgrim.




pagemc
pagemc
WA
20 posts
WA, 20 posts
1 Feb 2013 6:17pm
Yeah, you are all right to some extent - Jon still owns her and she is variously penned at RPYC at either the Crawley / Matilda Bay clubhouse ar at the RPYC Annex at Freo.

She underwent a major refit in ~07/08. I crewed on her for Jon in the 09 Hobart, entered as 'Seahold Perie Banou II' for the sponsor. We ended up doing pretty well, out of around 100 starters we finished:

Line Honours 90th
IOR Overall 14th
Division 4 4th

Needless to say happy with that!
pagemc
pagemc
WA
20 posts
WA, 20 posts
4 Feb 2013 3:12pm
A couple more of Perie Banour II (nee Pilgrim) from 09 S2H.
First one is off Tassie in about 35-40kn of following breeze - conditions made for a nice ride downhill.
Second one is New Year's Eve in Constitution Dock.


Screminseamn
Screminseamn
1 posts
1 posts
1 Sep 2013 11:18am
I don't know much about Pilgram however my father used to own Mark Twain in the late 70's, apparently it was the last S&S 39 biult so the frame for the moulds was left inside, making her practically indestructible. He gave her a complete overhaul and re paint changing her from navey blue to white and black, will see if I can dig up some of the old photos to post.
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