Seriously considering to upgrade to Bounty 35. The boat is called Carpe Diem and you can see it on you tube. It will be a nice upgrade from my 26 footer and bank account will not be affected as much. Jeanneau, Hunter, Bavaria etc are 100K plus in this size and it's a lot of money. Bounty is just third of 100k and some money will be recovered from Tasman so I will not suffer enormously.
Did anyone had a chance to sail on this boat? Will this boat be less rocking than Tasman 26 outside the heads? It is impossible to take my family down to Batman's Bay on Tasman. that would be a crime, a serious crime.Yesterday we went to Opera house and back to Woolwich and my wife felt so sick that I honestly regret it. Around fish market cruising was fun but I can not continue cruising around fish market all my life.
Hoping to get some info from people who owns or have owned the boat. Made in 1980, in Adelaide with displacement of 7t I am guessing it is a solid boat. I know is not a s&s 39 but good luck to find anything seaworthy for that money in 35f. Very well maintained, new sails, engine is ok but rigging is 10 years old. Well that reflects on the price. Insurance will give me a hard time. Boat is 43 years old but still looking sexy just like Michele Pfeiffer in 90's. Knowing that dinghy nowadays is 3k I think that this is a good opportunity to get a bigger boat that will last for long time. I can always add LED lights and vanish the wood inside and keep the boat nice sexy. It will be loved for sure for many years to come.
I must admit that I am a bit excited. Peter Cole just like Joseph Adams and many others is a well know tiger by quality design and I really hope that I am correct while imagining myself sailing around the heads like a king without breaking my ribs due to a big swell (happened 3 weeks on Tasman). Sorry for long text. I am just too excited. Going to inspect the boat next Sunday. Not many infos on net at all.
Your opinion is appreciated. Thank you.
Trawl through the Seabreeze posts and you will find plenty of favourable comments on the Cole 35
If she is still as nice as that 2017 utube ,very nice. I only ever raced my Bounty 35 eg. Forward of head ,which had no door, was one big sail bin. She did quite a few Ocean races including a couple of Westcoasters ( Melb./Hobart) and never was I concerned in her being able to handle the conditions . A very solid boat. Lots of room below . With the high freeboard and deep cockpit she is a very dry boat. .With the flat deck lots of space to enjoy the sun and lie about . After-what you currently have your wife will love you forever EXCEPT. If you do not intend having the boat in a marina pen the first thing you should do is for you and your family try boarding her from a tender. With the double spreader rig she should have a good turn of speed.I would have one or Pawtucket. again. Good Luck.
Good boat , good price.
Don't forget large headsails will be a lot more difficult to tack and if your wife gets seasick on a 26 footer in the harbour she will certainly get seasick on a 35 footer outside or for that matter even a cruise ship in rough weather. The sea is big and powerful and the difference between a 26 and a 35ft boat is like the difference between a cork or a bottle in the sea - not much..
As mentioned the boat will however be dryer as not as much spray and water will come over the bow unless of course it is bad weather.
Get a good surveyor and make sure that the area around the base of the keel stepped mast is free of corrosion and rot (as well as the usual other places).
Sounds rather cheap for a Bounty 35 without serious problems to me but as soon as you think it might be a good boat make sure you sign a "Subject to Survey" contract as SOON as possible before somebody else jumps on it.
You must get the rigging done to be safe. Prices vary a lot for rigging so get lots of quotes. Phillips Sails on Lake Macquarie for example are cheap but hard to get in Lake at 7ft draught.
Obviously agree the Yoti 2017 youtube video is impressive. Just to clarify the draft is listed as 5.91ft here; assume this can be clarified with the seller and during on slips survey.
sailboatdata.com/sailboat/bounty-35-cole
The 2017 video showed a good transom boarding ladder arrangement (including getting back on board from the water) so if it is still there access to on board should be ok.
Bonus with 28hp WM diesel and assumed shaft drive. Many of the new builds had sail drives as far as a web search throws up.
Assume the no2 on the furler are both operational still.
Agree Craig Phillips sails and rigging are top shelf.
Thanks my dear friends. A lot of things to consider here. I have a confession to make. Still waiting for a phone call from the owner of Hunter 356 2003. Had a lunch at deckhouse Woolwich 6 months ago when that Hunter 356 was up for survey. We got on board and my wife was impressed. That boat was just like a new. Very roomy inside. Clean and tidy. An elderly couple told me that boat will be for sale in Feb this years and that 80k would buy it. If that happens I don't need to think till 2040. I honestly would love to own that Hunter. I don't trust Americans but this boat is till in my hart since I went up to see it. That lady really looked after that interior and gave me an impression that boat is new. It feels that Hunter is slow boat but very comfortable. New sails too. Engine always service and looked after. Copper coat was done 3 years ago.
still waiting for a phone call. I know that Peter Cole is better boat but is 23 years older than Hunter. Hunter has copper cote and that poison can last 15 years if bottom is regularly cleaned. That is a lot of savings. When it comes to rigging my daughter is going to school with a daughter of a rigger from Kirribilli and he will probably look after Hunter or Bounty. His surname is House something. His name is Jason and is a very good fellow. I just can not recall his surname.
Will keep informed what is going on. Just in case that Hunter happens, could I possibly keep the same mooring? Woolwich bath is so close and convenient for me. I hope that Maritime will allow me to keep the mooring if I get the boat. If that happens what can I do with my mooring. It's new, a one year old. I will cancel the mooring at Maritime but that will happen with concrete block?
thank you for your help
keep in touch..
A friend of mine owns a Hunter 36 and his wife really likes it. Personally I would buy the boat with a backstay and a lead keel.
Well it looks like your friend and I have something in common: happy wife happy life!
Bounty is leaking, it smells a bit, 43 years old. when my wife starts to talk mate.
I don't mind a bit of water from the mast but life is full of compromises. If Hunter boat keeps family far from iPads and make holidays special than happy days. Kids are growing quickly and I want to enjoy them while still little. In 10 years they will disappear..
keep in touch
You are right about keeping the family happy but if it is only the smell that turned you off the Bounty you should probably look again.
Some time ago I looked at a boat which smelled.bad and the agent took me out to look at it on a mooring and left me there for 40 minutes. I went below and detected the smell and then really didn't bother looking around much at all but came back up and waited for the agent to come back. In hindsight it might have been a really good boat and I might have got it really cheap because of that smell and it may only have been a slightly loose connection to the black water tank or a blocked black water tank vent or something..
Obviously this smell would need to be tracked down however as you don't want it coming from rotten timber in the bilge or a leaky motor.
Re keeping the mooring. It's a little complicated. It's not transferable Serb unless there's no one else on the mooring waiting list for that area. But if you put your name down and it comes up you can then get the seller to relinquish their one and you can register/transfer to you. if you're lucky enough to acquire the yacht, ask the owner to hold on to the mooring until you can rig the system in your favour. welsh.
Thanks Mr Welsh. Just spoke with the Maritime officer who told me that there is no waiting list for that bay and if owner fills the documents I will get the opportunity to keep the boat and the mooring. The current owner is more than happy to fill the forms. Just have to get rid off my mooring as soon as my Tasman 26 is sold. Happy days are coming. I hope this boat will not lean as much as Tasman use to outside the heads when strong puff comes. This boat's main sail comes out of mast and I can roll it only 1/5, 1/4, 1/3, half of the main if I need to. I really like that a lot. Excellent for my poor sailing skills especially when out of heads, trying to reef while boat is rocking like I am in the washing machine. Small 26 f with a lot of sails and my poor sailing skills outside the heads makes this game very dangerous.
I would never do this again is strong winds. It should be illegal to let people like me to go out to the ocean and learn how to sail with poor skills. I am very serious. Last time I ripped off my Genoa and damaged my ribs. Ended up in hospital. I got scared. Never again.
So the Hunter has in-mast roller furling? Personally I'd budget for a new mainsail, then. The in-mast ones lack shape and they are terrible to reef in my experience; yes, you can reduce area by reefing but the sail normally becomes much deeper and therefore doesn't depower but just becomes a windbag.
The 356 looks to be very much a mainsail-driven boat, originally designed with a roachy main. If a boat like that carries the smaller in-mast reefing main then the loss of sail area will have the be compensated for by carrying more headsail, which is harder to tack and also becomes a complete windbag if reefed.
A decent fully-battened (or half-battened, ie with full battens in the head and short ones in the foot) mainsail with lazyjacks and a boom bag, plus a good short-overlap jib that you either unroll fully or fully furl, could be a great combination for that boat, and much closer to the rig it was designed to sail under.
