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My PFD inflates

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Created by garymalmgren > 9 months ago, 3 Jul 2021
garymalmgren
1353 posts
3 Jul 2021 5:51PM
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Leaning over the furled main on the boom to tidy it up.
Straighten up and PSSSSSSSSSSSS.
Lanyard was caught somewhere!!!
I picked up a little green plastic u shaped thingy but I think it is a disposable item.
Have ordered a new CO2 canister.

Do you have any tips for deflating and fitting a new canister?


gary

Bananabender
QLD, 1610 posts
3 Jul 2021 9:18PM
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Instructions should be inside pfd. If not google. I'm presuming you ordered the correct kit. Its pretty simple.
Be a good time to manual inflate and leave for 24 hrs. To check it does not deflate. Don't forget to mark on pfd the date you rearmed

Jethrow
NSW, 1275 posts
3 Jul 2021 9:24PM
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put a book on it to put some pressure on the bladder. Take some photos just for proof of self-test.

garymalmgren
1353 posts
3 Jul 2021 7:54PM
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Whats the Correct kit BB.
The catalog that I have and ordered from (Yamaha here in Japan) just has the cartridge.
No rearming instructions inside. Just says to manually inflate every 12 months.

Jethrow.
Will leave it inflated as a test and also because I don't know how to deflate it.
A copy of Dune good enough.

ary

Bananabender
QLD, 1610 posts
3 Jul 2021 9:58PM
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There should be a brand name of the jacket and model number somewhere on the jacket.
the tube you manually blow into has a flap inside of some sort . On mine I just poke a pencil down to open flap.
By the way its called a rearm kit

Bananabender
QLD, 1610 posts
3 Jul 2021 10:07PM
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If your jacket is not an auto inflate and you have ordered the correct cylinder you probably can use the old green indicator .

garymalmgren
1353 posts
3 Jul 2021 8:07PM
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Thanks BB

wongaga
VIC, 653 posts
3 Jul 2021 10:14PM
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My Stormy, Burke and Crewsaver PFD's all have a check valve inside the manual inflator tube just down from the top. The inflator tube cap has a protrusion on the top that will open the check valve if you push it into the tube. This allows air (actually CO2 if it's from the cartridge) to escape as you roll/squish the PFD. I find that a combination of using a pencil while I suck the last bit of air/CO2 out of the tube allows me to get the PFD bladders really flat and much more comfortable to wear.
Plenty of Youtube vids to help you.

Cheers, Graeme

garymalmgren
1353 posts
10 Jul 2021 5:31PM
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Rearm kit Bought and fitted . thanks all



Bananabender
QLD, 1610 posts
10 Jul 2021 7:41PM
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garymalmgren said..
Rearm kit Bought and fitted . thanks all




gwiongwion
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11 Jul 2021 5:58AM
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Jethrow said..
put a book on it to put some pressure on the bladder. Take some photos just for proof of self-test.


Nah. Use the vacuum cleaner while pinching the manual inflation valve.

Foolish
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14 Jul 2021 5:14AM
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This is just one of the many reasons why I don't have a single inflatable PFD on board. Just lots of old fashioned life jackets. They never inflate unintentionally, they don't need an annual test, and after years of hanging below, I have absolute confidence they will work perfectly as designed.

osco
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14 Jul 2021 6:55AM
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Foolish said..
This is just one of the many reasons why I don't have a single inflatable PFD on board. Just lots of old fashioned life jackets. They never inflate unintentionally, they don't need an annual test, and after years of hanging below, I have absolute confidence they will work perfectly as designed.


I do have an inflatable but it is still attached to the cardboard backing that was on it when it came from the shop. We comply.
We still wear non inflatable PFD's that have the harness permanently sewn to the shoulders. They are comfortable, warm and act as body armour in case of a fall on the boat.
I could stand corrected but inflatables became mandated after the 1998 Hobart tragedy born out of the difficulty of getting the rescue strop over the mae west style life jackets. The inflated inflatables that I've seen are at least as big as the old disallowed type. Every commercial aircraft also has horrible inflatables that, should anybody survive a ditching, would be as problematic as an old mae west, commercial vessels provide life jackets that too would give the helicopter crew equal difficulty.
To me it would have been far smarter to modify 20 rescue strops and make sure they were operational than to "mandate" a completely new potential equipment fail and inflict that on how many lifejacket wearers?

Ramona
NSW, 7732 posts
14 Jul 2021 6:40PM
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osco said..

Foolish said..
This is just one of the many reasons why I don't have a single inflatable PFD on board. Just lots of old fashioned life jackets. They never inflate unintentionally, they don't need an annual test, and after years of hanging below, I have absolute confidence they will work perfectly as designed.



I do have an inflatable but it is still attached to the cardboard backing that was on it when it came from the shop. We comply.
We still wear non inflatable PFD's that have the harness permanently sewn to the shoulders. They are comfortable, warm and act as body armour in case of a fall on the boat.
I could stand corrected but inflatables became mandated after the 1998 Hobart tragedy born out of the difficulty of getting the rescue strop over the mae west style life jackets. The inflated inflatables that I've seen are at least as big as the old disallowed type. Every commercial aircraft also has horrible inflatables that, should anybody survive a ditching, would be as problematic as an old mae west, commercial vessels provide life jackets that too would give the helicopter crew equal difficulty.
To me it would have been far smarter to modify 20 rescue strops and make sure they were operational than to "mandate" a completely new potential equipment fail and inflict that on how many lifejacket wearers?


It makes good commercial sense to change the rules re lifejackets, inflatable jackets EPIRBS etc every now and again to to get rid of the saturated market.

woko
NSW, 1757 posts
14 Jul 2021 7:54PM
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osco said..

Foolish said..
This is just one of the many reasons why I don't have a single inflatable PFD on board. Just lots of old fashioned life jackets. They never inflate unintentionally, they don't need an annual test, and after years of hanging below, I have absolute confidence they will work perfectly as designed.



I do have an inflatable but it is still attached to the cardboard backing that was on it when it came from the shop. We comply.
We still wear non inflatable PFD's that have the harness permanently sewn to the shoulders. They are comfortable, warm and act as body armour in case of a fall on the boat.
I could stand corrected but inflatables became mandated after the 1998 Hobart tragedy born out of the difficulty of getting the rescue strop over the mae west style life jackets. The inflated inflatables that I've seen are at least as big as the old disallowed type. Every commercial aircraft also has horrible inflatables that, should anybody survive a ditching, would be as problematic as an old mae west, commercial vessels provide life jackets that too would give the helicopter crew equal difficulty.
To me it would have been far smarter to modify 20 rescue strops and make sure they were operational than to "mandate" a completely new potential equipment fail and inflict that on how many lifejacket wearers?


Comparing inflatables with closed cell foam pfds is like comparing pneumatic tyres with solids, the trade off is obviously a bit of maintenance v bulk, I have no need to remove my inflatable when I go below to make a cuppa etc. it's easy to swim in an inflatable when it's not inflated. It's easy to forget your wearing the inflatable pfd, after rowing ashore recently and loading some gear into the Ute I realised about 20km down the road I still had the inflatable pfd on !

Ramona
NSW, 7732 posts
15 Jul 2021 8:29AM
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I agree inflatables are much more comfortable. But will your inflatable PDF support you in the water when it's un inflated. Military PDF's support the average bloke in the water with out being inflated. There is always the chance of you ending up in the water unconscious with your manually inflated PDF!

woko
NSW, 1757 posts
15 Jul 2021 6:42PM
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Ramona said..
I agree inflatables are much more comfortable. But will your inflatable PDF support you in the water when it's un inflated. Military PDF's support the average bloke in the water with out being inflated. There is always the chance of you ending up in the water unconscious with your manually inflated PDF!


Yep the ducks nuts would have to be the hydrostatic activated job



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