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Hit By Lightning Sinking

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Created by Zzzzzz > 9 months ago, 25 Oct 2020
Zzzzzz
513 posts
25 Oct 2020 6:20PM
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Sailing into HELL! Lightning devastates Freedom - The sailboat is SINKING!


Zzzzzz
513 posts
25 Oct 2020 6:27PM
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I think with the engine started I would be heading for the shore.

garymalmgren
1357 posts
25 Oct 2020 7:16PM
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To be continued!!!!
Now there is a grab.

gary

Zzzzzz
513 posts
25 Oct 2020 7:28PM
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garymalmgren said..
To be continued!!!!
Now there is a grab.

gary


I just watched an earlier video of there's where they where sailing the Kimberly's in a beautiful Cat which got smashed to bits very sad

garymalmgren
1357 posts
25 Oct 2020 7:54PM
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I just watched an earlier video of there's where they where sailing the Kimberly's in a beautiful Cat which got smashed to bits very sad


I remember that. To far from civilization to get help or salvage.
Seems that bad luck has struck again.

Also goes to show that electric bilge pumps only last as long as the batteries.
gary

Zzzzzz
513 posts
25 Oct 2020 9:24PM
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garymalmgren said..
I just watched an earlier video of there's where they where sailing the Kimberly's in a beautiful Cat which got smashed to bits very sad


I remember that. To far from civilization to get help or salvage.
Seems that bad luck has struck again.

Also goes to show that electric bilge pumps only last as long as the batteries.
gary


A lot of new boats are coming out with direct injection In the motor instead of injector pumps of old Try starting the motor after being hit by lightning and blowing the computer.

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
26 Oct 2020 10:52AM
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Just thinking......If you had a tee piece in your cooling water inlet hose between the skin fitting and water pump, a tap on the tee and a length of hose into the bilge, as long as the engine starts wouldn't it be possible to pump the bilge out through the engine exhaust ?.

Lazzz
NSW, 902 posts
26 Oct 2020 11:04AM
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samsturdy said..
Just thinking......If you had a tee piece in your cooling water inlet hose between the skin fitting and water pump, a tap on the tee and a length of hose into the bilge, as long as the engine starts wouldn't it be possible to pump the bilge out through the engine exhaust ?.


Yes, very possible Sam.

I have a system like this set up on my boat, however the motor pumps a fair volume of water so it's only for a decent leak!!

ReefMagnet
QLD, 45 posts
26 Oct 2020 10:09AM
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samsturdy said..
Just thinking......If you had a tee piece in your cooling water inlet hose between the skin fitting and water pump, a tap on the tee and a length of hose into the bilge, as long as the engine starts wouldn't it be possible to pump the bilge out through the engine exhaust ?.


Yes.. Been there and done that myself one time when none of the bilge pumps worked. In my case I unclamped the hose from the through hull and laid it in the bilge.

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
26 Oct 2020 11:35AM
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Lazzz said..

samsturdy said..
Just thinking......If you had a tee piece in your cooling water inlet hose between the skin fitting and water pump, a tap on the tee and a length of hose into the bilge, as long as the engine starts wouldn't it be possible to pump the bilge out through the engine exhaust ?.



Yes, very possible Sam.

I have a system like this set up on my boat, however the motor pumps a fair volume of water so it's only for a decent leak!!


Laz....would it pump the bilge and the cooling water at the same time so you could motor to a safe haven ?.

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
26 Oct 2020 11:38AM
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ReefMagnet said..

samsturdy said..
Just thinking......If you had a tee piece in your cooling water inlet hose between the skin fitting and water pump, a tap on the tee and a length of hose into the bilge, as long as the engine starts wouldn't it be possible to pump the bilge out through the engine exhaust ?.



Yes.. Been there and done that myself one time when none of the bilge pumps worked. In my case I unclamped the hose from the through hull and laid it in the bilge.


Maybe half close your inlet valve to reduce the flow somewhat. You would have to gauge the extent of the water ingress of course, but it would be doable wouldn't it ?.

dialdan
QLD, 83 posts
26 Oct 2020 11:52AM
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samsturdy said..
Just thinking......If you had a tee piece in your cooling water inlet hose between the skin fitting and water pump, a tap on the tee and a length of hose into the bilge, as long as the engine starts wouldn't it be possible to pump the bilge out through the engine exhaust ?.


I have this setup on my boat to flush the engine

Lazzz
NSW, 902 posts
26 Oct 2020 1:49PM
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samsturdy said..

Maybe half close your inlet valve to reduce the flow somewhat. You would have to gauge the extent of the water ingress of course, but it would be doable wouldn't it ?.


Definitely doable!!

You would have to fiddle a bit with the intake flow - also you don't want to be sucking air when the bilge is empty so you would have to adjust that flow as well.

I haven't had to use this so it's all theory but worst case it should empty the bilge until I could stop the leak.

I also have an old 12v water pump (from my fresh water system) with hoses & leads attached ready to drop into the bilge if needed.

This is on top of my main 12v bilge pump, with ear-piercing alarm, then the secondary 12v is on as well & then there is the manual pump!!

I'm paranoid about sinking!!!

2bish
TAS, 822 posts
26 Oct 2020 7:12PM
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My boat came equipped with a secondary bilge pump. It's motor-driven, has an electric clutch. It's mounted on the motor with a fan belt and freewheels all the time until you flick a switch that engages the clutch and then it starts pumping. Something like this: www.jabscoshop.com/marine/pumps/bilge-pumps/bronze-engine-driven-clutch-pumps/

It wasn't actually connected up with a fan belt when I got the boat. I put one on though and it works a treat, high throughput.

edit: But if the alternator gets fried, it will only work as long as I've got battery.

Things to do in a lightning storm:
1. electro gadgets in oven
2. disconnect wiring from alternator?
3. what else?

Zzzzzz
513 posts
26 Oct 2020 5:32PM
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2bish said..
My boat came equipped with a secondary bilge pump. It's motor-driven, has an electric clutch. It's mounted on the motor with a fan belt and freewheels all the time until you flick a switch that engages the clutch and then it starts pumping. Something like this: www.jabscoshop.com/marine/pumps/bilge-pumps/bronze-engine-driven-clutch-pumps/

It wasn't actually connected up with a fan belt when I got the boat. I put one on though and it works a treat, high throughput.

edit: But if the alternator gets fried, it will only work as long as I've got battery.

Things to do in a lightning storm:
1. electro gadgets in oven
2. disconnect wiring from alternator?
3. what else?


PRAY or get down on your knees and sing Jesus loves me

2bish
TAS, 822 posts
26 Oct 2020 9:08PM
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And isn't there something about head between knees and kissing where the sun don't shine

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
26 Oct 2020 9:21PM
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2bish said..
And isn't there something about head between knees and kissing where the sun don't shine


I thought that was for when your plane is about to crash!!

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
27 Oct 2020 9:12AM
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I would be thinking about the lucky day I renewed my insurance!

It saved me from ruin when my boat was hit!

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
27 Oct 2020 9:46AM
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So, if you are a blue water sailor with a well found boat and a competent crew ( single handed or otherwise ) is lightning strike
the single biggest natural danger to you ?. I'm assuming of course that your competency enables you to handle all weather
conditions.

garymalmgren
1357 posts
27 Oct 2020 7:51AM
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is lightning strike the single biggest natural danger to you ?.

Dangers can't be quantified like that Sam.
My guess would be a medical emergency (heart attack, stroke)
But the list of dangers that boil down to plain bad luck is pretty long.

gary

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
27 Oct 2020 11:04AM
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Yes Gary i guess I am being somewhat specific and wasn't ruling in accidents and medical problems.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
8 Dec 2020 2:36PM
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Jesus got nothing to do with it, however, if your bilge got crap in it - like most bilges do - you better have a bloody good filter at the end of your hose! The strainer might not be enough.
And do not forget the insurance, either.

UncleBob
NSW, 1299 posts
8 Dec 2020 5:54PM
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Azure305 said..

2bish said..
And isn't there something about head between knees and kissing where the sun don't shine



I thought that was for when your plane is about to crash!!


Heads down, stay down and kiss your ass goodbye.

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
11 Dec 2020 10:52AM
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samsturdy said..
Just thinking......If you had a tee piece in your cooling water inlet hose between the skin fitting and water pump, a tap on the tee and a length of hose into the bilge, as long as the engine starts wouldn't it be possible to pump the bilge out through the engine exhaust ?.


Love your thinking

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
11 Dec 2020 12:01PM
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sirgallivant said..
Jesus got nothing to do with it, however, if your bilge got crap in it - like most bilges do - you better have a bloody good filter at the end of your hose! The strainer might not be enough.
And do not forget the insurance, either.



Good to hear from you



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