I do feel for this poor guy

www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-07/shipwrecked-qld-yachtsman-calls-on-public-for-help/7823052

Insurance is always a pain, I just got my renewal notice today, just over $5,000.00

I hope some good samaritan helps him and he gets his boat...

Yes he should have been insured but no one knows his story. History.
theres so much wealth in the world and I've seen it first hand in the med working for billionaires. I've also seen poverty first hand and it's really no issue for anyone of us in a first world country to help out someone in need. In this case it's a 68 year old man who had no insurance. If he was 50 or younger, then , mate get some funds, work, whatever, but a fella his age can use a hand. No ones perfect. I reckon it'd be easy to forget the commercial world when you've been cruising for years away from it all. I hope he'll be ok!

It always amazes me how close people sail to lee shores. They just don't believe that things can go wrong until it is too late. Anyone remember Anne Gash, who circumnavigated the world and then ran aground on Barrenjoey on her return.

Any ideas as to what design yacht she is?

nswsailor said..

Yara said..
It always amazes me how close people sail to lee shores. They just don't believe that things can go wrong until it is too late. Anyone remember Anne Gash, who circumnavigated the world and then ran aground on Barrenjoey on her return.

Yep, and a mate of mine spoke to her some years later and she admitted that she knew about the rock!

What rock .....

Sectorsteve said..
Yes he should have been insured but no one knows his story. History.
theres so much wealth in the world and I've seen it first hand in the med working for billionaires. I've also seen poverty first hand and it's really no issue for anyone of us in a first world country to help out someone in need. In this case it's a 68 year old man who had no insurance. If he was 50 or younger, then , mate get some funds, work, whatever, but a fella his age can use a hand. No ones perfect. I reckon it'd be easy to forget the commercial world when you've been cruising for years away from it all. I hope he'll be ok!

I like your kindness Steve.

nswsailor said..

Trek said..

nswsailor said..

Yara said..
It always amazes me how close people sail to lee shores. They just don't believe that things can go wrong until it is too late. Anyone remember Anne Gash, who circumnavigated the world and then ran aground on Barrenjoey on her return.

Yep, and a mate of mine spoke to her some years later and she admitted that she knew about the rock!

What rock .....

Oh dear Trek,
There is an isolated rock just below the surface at low tide off Barrenjoey. It is marked on the charts thus + if I remember rightly.

Nothing on navionics charts off barrenjoey head unless your talking about the one you would only take a tinny close to catch a sweep?

It's the rock north of the lighthouse, it has even been hit by the water police

I suppose when you are in Folkboat you feel invincible, knowing you have beaten the worst the ocean can throw at you, what's a piddling little rock going to do to you.

Old fashion navigation plot on a chart ,passage plan, when you go yachting always work on the worse case scenario, there are so many cowboys out there when it goes wrong they are all of a sudden bleeding heart cases
If you cant afford insurance ,sail safely and navigate properly don't go to sea.
it happens all the time if you go cheap at sea or land you are asking for disaster then plead poor because you are a di**head.

I have my house ,rentals, 3 car's,caravan ,boat,and trailer insured i hate paying it each month but know i have too just incase the sh**t hits the fan.
Yachting isnt cheap

nswsailor said..
That's the one Southace & Loosechange.

Reckon she thought she knew where she was.

Yep paper charts, hand bearing compass & sextant. I wonder how many people on the water today would be as competent as her if all there wiz bang electrical aids were removed from their boats.

The sad reality of life is that your seem to be remembered by your last f$%kup. I would rather remember Ann as an accomplished sailor and extraordinary person. Why dig up this crap.

I'd rather read about your story, when you ran aground or some other mishap. I enjoyed it when Southace posted his grounding with pictures. We've all got these story's to tell, but some would rather mention other peoples mishaps rather than their own.

Crusoe said...

santanasaga said..
Its almost impossible to get insurance to get blue water insurance to sail >200nm off shore, especially short or single handed. most bluewater long term cruisers don't carry insurance for that reason. most would rather invest in a good anchor, sails and engine...

I wish I was up there to give him a hand - I love a good salvage operation

Well said santansaga. If I was in the area I would help him out.

I can't believe some of the self righteous comments on this thread.

Nothing to do with righteous or weather you would help out ffs if you wouldn't help you should not even be in the water.
My point which was the original one about insurance is you take a gamble of not having insurance. If that gamble does not pay off don't winge about I've lost everything and I don't have insurance poor me. What about us poor mugs paying $1000 a year never claim I have wasted $20000 in 20 years do I say poor me everyone needs to feel sorry for me?
This is the same as with the people whose houses burn down. I pay insurance on my house it burns down I get the insurance where if I had no insurance it's poor person we need to get donations. if unfortunately it happens in a bushfire the government even gives extra donation.
I am not saying any of these are not a tragedy but none is any more tragic than the other you loose a house is a terrible thing for anyone. But just because you have taken the canculated rusk to not insure definitely dies not make you more worthy.

I think this thread drifted of track a bit regarding this rock and couple of previous navigational errors. My mimional track for this approach is showen below but in strong northerly,, night passage or some system failors it would be two fold that track northwards.

a problem that can occur when getting close to a anchorage after a long tireing passage is that the headsail won't furl up due to binding control line.This can be very worrying for a solo sailor esspecialy in over 20knot breaze and choppy conditions. It can contribute to further problems if on lee shore and engine no start / prop fouling occurs.
It seems by the brief description something like this failour occurred.
My lessons have been least and have No lines that can drape into the water and maintain a very well serviced main engine.

Yes yes insurance will cover this tragic event if insured.

lets hope some good people are there to help him out I know I would.

Your honour my grounding was deliberate due to the calibrating of my depth instruments on my new yacht and unfortantly I miss judged the weight , power and surroundings beyond my control!. Thanks for bringing that up again cruisoe!