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Created by Azure305 > 9 months ago, 26 Apr 2021
Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
26 Apr 2021 5:14PM
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...handle that is - what were you thinking?




The missing piece had the other 'claw' on it.

Where would one source a replacement without having to purchasing a complete ball valve, or is that even possible? TIA.

(in the meantime I'm guessing a pair of locking pliers or a shifter on the flat of the valve shaft to open/close it - any better suggestions?)

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
26 Apr 2021 6:21PM
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Nasty. Good related article here.

www.iims.org.uk/problems-with-skin-fittings/

Should be able to buy a replacement? - eg;

www.msamako.com.au/stainless-steel-valves

But if the valve and spindle and its thread and nut are still ok it would not be a big deal to make a new handle to fit over the spindle. What is the spindle and nut material - assume bronze and not carbon steel as the broken handle appears to be? Even a piece of brass flat bar drilled and filed to close tolerances should do it? The brass will dezincify and become brittle in time if salt water comes in contact with it but if not should last for a reasonable time. Close fitting tolerances will avoid slop and wear in use. Spray it with CorrosionX?

Locking pliers or shifter will work in the short term but will probably damage the spindle flats and corners and they will become burred.

woko
NSW, 1759 posts
26 Apr 2021 8:56PM
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I would be using a bogey lever / spanner and replacing the cock when next out of the water if that's an indication of the component quantity. A while ago someone posted a failed cock ! The handle was good but the spindle wasn't operating the ball ....... ?

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
26 Apr 2021 10:30PM
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Thanks r13 - good ideas there, and thanks Woko. The cock is a good quality bronze one still working well, but its also the only one that hasn't been replaced(access is a nightmare that may require some cutting of panel(s)) so that was already slated for the next slipping. I sort of knew the handle was failing and hoped it would last, but alas...
An interim jobby will do for now i think

Ramona
NSW, 7732 posts
27 Apr 2021 8:07AM
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I would use a bit of flat SS bar. Cut the square hole in the side with a mini grinder and weld an end piece to close off the hole and grind the whole thing flat. Wont have the stop part but that does not matter.

Jolene
WA, 1620 posts
27 Apr 2021 6:28AM
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I would just buy another valve and take the handle off it.

Datawiz
VIC, 605 posts
27 Apr 2021 6:19PM
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Jolene said..
I would just buy another valve and take the handle off it.


Doh!

garymalmgren
1357 posts
27 Apr 2021 5:46PM
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This is another of those "Why on Earth didn't they make it properly to start with?"

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
27 Apr 2021 9:07PM
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So i open SB and get this advertising- is the universe trying to tell me something?, or maybe it's just the vagaries(read:algorithms) of the internet.
Made me chuckle

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
27 Apr 2021 9:16PM
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Yes agree the algorithms of the internet, what a complete PITA.

Back to the original post - in the good old days Whitworths sold valves with red circular (not lever) handles and green circular handles - the red corroded within a few years while the green lasted a lot longer due to appropriate materials.

warwickl
NSW, 2357 posts
29 Apr 2021 4:10PM
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Azure305 said..
...handle that is - what were you thinking?




The missing piece had the other 'claw' on it.

Where would one source a replacement without having to purchasing a complete ball valve, or is that even possible? TIA.

(in the meantime I'm guessing a pair of locking pliers or a shifter on the flat of the valve shaft to open/close it - any better suggestions?)


Warranty for sure

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
30 Apr 2021 10:49AM
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A bit of cutting, bending, drilling and filing - and heatshrink for good measure.
Daresay it could last longer than the original!
Thanks for the tip r13.

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
30 Apr 2021 6:11PM
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Top job right there it will certainly last longer than the original.

troubadour
NSW, 334 posts
3 May 2021 12:42PM
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DBHS Metal work class came in handy

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
3 May 2021 2:10PM
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Oh yeah!!



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