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Agnes flies.

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Created by garymalmgren > 9 months ago, 15 Oct 2020
garymalmgren
1357 posts
15 Oct 2020 7:56AM
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Toph
WA, 1871 posts
15 Oct 2020 9:59AM
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I thought this was going to be a thread about the flys at Agnes Water. I was going to say my parents live there and you should wait for the mosquito's to come out...

But nice video. Agnes is certainly screaming along.

crustysailor
VIC, 871 posts
15 Oct 2020 1:03PM
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nice vid Gary.
At hull speed for sure.
I liked trying to get the boom in a bit more, good luck with that one.

thanks for posting

MEGAMAX
WA, 83 posts
15 Oct 2020 11:27AM
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Well they sorted out the jib top sail..so all good.

woko
NSW, 1759 posts
15 Oct 2020 8:58PM
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Nice ! Rekindles my hankering for a topsil

garymalmgren
1357 posts
15 Oct 2020 6:45PM
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It's funny Crust and Mega.
I was sitting here thinking that top foresail is flapping. Look at the bloke trying to sheet the main.
The points that you two noticed.
It is SO easy to be an armchair sailor, (fun too)

In the original Youtube post, some posters got quite nasty about weather helm and whatever.
Also the speed.
One poster timed the speed of passing her own waterline length and came up with 10 to 11 knots.
Not bad for an old girl (am I allowed to say that?)

gary

MEGAMAX
WA, 83 posts
15 Oct 2020 9:56PM
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garymalmgren said..
It's funny Crust and Mega.
I was sitting here thinking that top foresail is flapping. Look at the bloke trying to sheet the main.
The points that you two noticed.
It is SO easy to be an armchair sailor, (fun too)

In the original Youtube post, some posters got quite nasty about weather helm and whatever.
Also the speed.
One poster timed the speed of passing her own waterline length and came up with 10 to 11 knots.
Not bad for an old girl (am I allowed to say that?)

gary


Gary, that's because I sail this....


Ramona
NSW, 7732 posts
16 Oct 2020 6:47AM
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garymalmgren said..
It's funny Crust and Mega.
I was sitting here thinking that top foresail is flapping. Look at the bloke trying to sheet the main.
The points that you two noticed.
It is SO easy to be an armchair sailor, (fun too)

In the original Youtube post, some posters got quite nasty about weather helm and whatever.
Also the speed.
One poster timed the speed of passing her own waterline length and came up with 10 to 11 knots.
Not bad for an old girl (am I allowed to say that?)

gary


She is doing hull speed. I reckon 6 to 7 knots. What is the waterline length?

2bish
TAS, 822 posts
16 Oct 2020 10:19AM
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Fantastic! She's 46ft. workingsail.co.uk/agnes

Yara
NSW, 1308 posts
16 Oct 2020 11:01AM
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crustysailor said..
nice vid Gary.
At hull speed for sure.
I liked trying to get the boom in a bit more, good luck with that one.

thanks for posting



Yes, the mechanical advantage on the main sheet is not much more than what I have on my puny main. Guess the only way they can tighten that massive main is to luff up. (Or have the whole crew pull on the main sheet.)

woko
NSW, 1759 posts
16 Oct 2020 3:21PM
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Before winches handy Billy's ( a separate block and tackle arrangement ) where used to apply more pull, but that Ol girl didn't want to be sheeted any harder,

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
16 Oct 2020 7:50PM
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woko said..
Before winches handy Billy's ( a separate block and tackle arrangement ) where used to apply more pull, but that Ol girl didn't want to be sheeted any harder,


Not so much of the old please, she is still a teenager at only seventeen years old

woko
NSW, 1759 posts
16 Oct 2020 8:29PM
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Get outa here ! Guess I shoulda done some Googling

MEGAMAX
WA, 83 posts
16 Oct 2020 6:42PM
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Mine on the other hand is a spritely 83 this year....

garymalmgren
1357 posts
16 Oct 2020 6:56PM
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And much admired Mega.
I have great respect for the custodians of these high maintenance boats.
83 or 17, they still need so much time, effort and cash.
Thank you.

gary

crustysailor
VIC, 871 posts
16 Oct 2020 10:06PM
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i'll funny you back.
Funny, I thought the weather helm wasn't too bad considering.
It still looked like he could helm one handed at least some of the time, and the tiller was only up a couple of degrees Im guessing from the comfort of the recliner.
For a 46ft boat then, tiller steered, with a boom longer than out trailer sailer, i'd call that good going.

A dumb question then for the armchairers, if it has weather helm, meaning the gaff main is doing too much, why try to get it in tighter?
Unless they are looking to depower it by oversheeting?

I know nothing anymore, normal sailing rules seem to dissappear after sailing the cat.
Everything is apparent wind and steering to depower goes against what you grew up with.
I think.

MEGAMAX
WA, 83 posts
16 Oct 2020 9:41PM
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It all looked really good to me. Everything drawing nicely. Maybe they wanted to point up a bit?
I don't set a top sail so not sure how much that affects things. My boat likes to point off a bit and the boom no more than on the quarter. Too tight and it all goes to hell in a hand basket. The sails are probably 30 years old so I really need at least a new main.

Agnes is a great boat and one day when we can travel again I want to sail on her. I think she does voyages...or at least one of the pilot cutters does.

I am glad this got posted here!

woko
NSW, 1759 posts
18 Oct 2020 7:40AM
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Mega I replaced my 34 year old sails a couple of years ago and it improved the ability to point but bringing the boom inboard gives the same result.



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