Salt looks nice

Hi Bill
Lake Bumbunga looks great, How is the surface for sailing and can it be used.

I think Pt Germain is a great spot I spent a couple of days there last year. Did not get to have a sail as wind was not there. Pefect spot tho as the caravan park is right on the waters edge and the town was real friendly. Miles of sailing area when the tide was out. Looks like a good place to fish and catch crabs.
Cheers
Vic

So who is the contact for permission???

Gizmo said...

gibberjoe said...


So who is the contact for permission???

Those that need to know already know.. The last thing that needs to happen is for the lake to be abused by every man and his dog ringing the owner asking for access to the lake.

So Joe...what breed of dog do you own

in 2010 there was going to be a combined kite festival and land sailing event at Pt Gremaine called blovember but it never can to pass (couldn't get any "club" members to travel that far) so it all went by the board but I think that the local tourist assoc, could be talked into putting some thing on again,, I had a number of conversations with them while trying to get land yachts up there, the beach isnt't bad as a sailing beach can be a bit "pot holey" but you get that, maybe a week sailing up there would be the go I'm sure we could do a deal with the caravan park for a cheaper rate for land sailors and at the right time of year if the wind isn't up there's alway good cradding from the jetty so there's plenty to do,,mmmm maybe i'll contact the assoc again and put it to them ,,, just a thought

gibberjoe said...


So who is the contact for permission???

I would start by ringing the lochiel hotel 0888662208.
its more than likely the owner of the land drinks there.
if you sit around waiting for" those who know"
to get there ** together and welcome you into a great cuddly brotherhood youll have popped an artery by then
ring when its not happy hour, theyll be happy to chat

November 22 any good?

www.bom.gov.au/australia/tides/#!/sa

Paul.... re; Lake Bumbunga, sending people to the local pub to get the name of the landholder...how rude and disrespectful to assume for the price of a beer people will get the name of the property owner from some bar fly!! Hope that same bar fly doesn't know your private home address.

The lake is PRIVATE property and the owner is known to the land sailing people that need to know.
Private property is EXACTLY that PRIVATE PROPERTY !!!!

As you are VERY well aware the lake has a VERY soft edge that is easily damaged at times even getting a Class5 onto the lake can be difficult let alone anything larger, trying to get a trailer on the lake will cause MASSIVE damage to the lake surface.
And as you are aware it takes many many years for lakes to recover from such damage like that, and farmers don't like damage occurring on their property.
The owner is very protective of the lake and wont appreciate any damage or constant requests for access.

The last thing the sport needs in South Australia is a whole lot of people contacting the owner wanting access to the lake, going there unprepared for the soft edges of the lake and doing damage.

Access has always previously been arranged as a group of land sailors going to the lake, and this is often needed to get the yachts to the sailing area.

So Paul please have some respect for the land owner and other land sailors in SA.... As you would appreciate on your local sailing area interstate interference is NOT warranted or welcome.

You think I'm upset and cranky?...... absolutely.. and not apologising for it either as the lack of respect and assumptions by some give me the irrrits!!!!

gibberjoe said...


get off your high horse...we are not all tarred with the same brush as you!!!!!

Shame on you gibberjoe!

What don't you understand Paul.... The owner is known an agreement had been worked out for landyacht usage. But as a group... Not random drop in people.
Your stupidity and pub stuff is putting that agreement on shaky ground.

Gizmo said...

What don't you understand Paul.... The owner is known an agreement had been worked out for landyacht usage. But as a group... Not random drop in people.
Your stupidity and pub stuff is putting that agreement on shaky ground. STFU

so how about organizing something, there are buckets of landyachters waiting to join in , do it

beachball57 said...

guys don't let this turn ito a poo slinging match, I thought "those" sort of people had moved on gizmo is right to a certain extent, if i was the owner i don't think i'd want "drop ins" calling all the time, and if the owner's name is already known then it doesn't matter,,but paul is right as well to a certain extent, as i see it land sailing is trying to stay aflaot ( pardon the pun) and we have to start somewhere, just talking about it won't get nothing done unless some action happens as well

sn said...

Just how much soggy ground do you need to cross to reach useable lake surface?

Do you need to put down conveyor belting or similar for access?

If the land owner is agreeable- materials could be stored on the property instead of having to cart it all around.

With lack of suitable sailing areas being the biggest obstacle holding landyachting back- Paul is right- good venues need to be constantly found and developed, Gizmo is also right- the property owners need to be kept happy too.

No need to tear each others head off about it- we all want the same thing after all.
If we keep acting as individuals jealously protecting our personal playgrounds, we will eventually have no one but well organised groups like the blokarts clubs being able to sail anywhere.

Be a bit realistic, look at what the Australian Blokart clubs have achieved so far- impressive growth, private club venues, club premises,
Only a few minutes from my home, the Perth Blokart Club now have the keys to Lake Gnangara- along with seasonal access to the same patch that Sandgropers use- something I could never hope get as an individual!

Work together fellas- find suitable venues for sailing by any means you can, then get the rubber stamp from the owners and go out there and impress them!

stephen.

You are absolutely right Sn, this particular Lake requires particular care when using it for Land Sailing. Those people who have used it before are aware of its problems and the techniques required. That's why it needs a group approach NOT individual requests to access the lake. As those of us who have sailed on it before know that the window of opportunity for use ability of this Lake is very small. After this coming weekend with the predicted rains I expect it to be unusable perhaps until Dec/Jan 2012/2013. (This is based on many years of past experience).
I have never suggested that this Lake is my private playground, I have only stated it is on Private Property and access needs to be co-ordinated for the reasons stated above.
Continual discussion on this subject by people who have no reason to be involved at this stage are actually hampering what is occurring behind the scenes. I am aware that at least 3 people who expressed interest are now having second thoughts.
The reality of this Lake being a regular sailing site like Lefroy or Lake Gnangara is not viable due to it not being a year round sailing site. Sth Australia at this stage is perhaps at least 5yrs off having Clubs like Lefroy and Perth. Misfits is in the early days of establishment and at this stage is more Social than competitive, give them a chance to establish a group without external interference.
That's my say on this subject lets focus on coastal sites like Port Germain and Kingston, BB is doing a fantastic job on those sites let him do what he needs to do.

for those with limited interest in this spat............

A Mrs Duck contacted me, she seems to have her Feathers ruffled, and has

charged to the defence of The Gizmo by tearing strips off me. I have replied and

have kept a sample,,,,"landyachting general" is where everone who wants to talk

about anything as i see it, does. I asked a quesrtion of interest to me......thats

all . I have nothing to applogise about my question!!

gibberjoe said...


for those with limited interest in this spat............

A Mrs Duck contacted me, she seems to have her Feathers ruffled, and has

charged to the defence of The Gizmo by tearing strips off me. I have replied and

have kept a sample,,,,"landyachting general" is where everone who wants to talk

about anything as i see it, does. I asked a quesrtion of interest to me......thats

all . I have nothing to applogise about my question!!

I am not interested in having a arguement with you Gibberjoe, but for the record your comment directed at Gizmo(my husband) I found personally offensive and that is why I pm you. Yes you originally asked a question, Gizmo did not direct his reply directly to you or anyone it was a generalised statement YOU chose to take it personally and your comment/post last night was personally directed to Gizmo.

I have in the past had you in my home and you have enjoyed our hospitality for reasons that are known to us and yourself that no longer occurs but to personally attack Gizmo on the forum was just plain rude. Gizmo since the falling out has endeavoured not to reply to your posts out of respect please choose to be equally as respectful

Whilst I have had a profile on this forum for a number of years I have chosen to for the most part not to contribute BUT I do read the forum and will observe my right to defend my husband when he is being unfairly targeted. Some individuals on this forum over the years have thought it appropriate to threaten and abuse Gizmo and I often by phone calls/emails and this of course affects our family. A couple of years ago I posted that everyone needs to keep in mind partners and their families read this forum so respect was paramount.You chose to be very rude on the forum and I have decided enough is enough!!! If you thought I was angry/upset last night triple it this evening.!!!!!!!!

Mind your manners Gibberjoe, have some class and act your age!!!!!