YOT, Y Neutral, YUS

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Nikrum
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6 Jun 2012 4:33pm
Right. Perhaps, maybe I can start another Argument as things are a little quiet on the Forum at the moment..

What is the general perception on the Construction of Chassis and their performance/Advantages ie; Chassis Y Under Slung, Over The Top or Neutral.

Just from Observation I think that the under Slung Chassis would offer a stability advantage from a tipping point of view, though there would probably be decidedly greater Torque Strain at the Mast Step/Chassis Joint?? There could be advantage and disadvantage through Trade Offs in position of Steering Rake etc..

Thoughts please..
Ron
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WA, 5921 posts
6 Jun 2012 10:40pm
Nikrum said...

Right. Perhaps, maybe I can start another Argument as things are a little quiet on the Forum at the moment..

What is the general perception on the Construction of Chassis and their performance/Advantages ie; Chassis Y Under Slung, Over The Top or Neutral.

Just from Observation I think that the under Slung Chassis would offer a stability advantage from a tipping point of view, though there would probably be decidedly greater Torque Strain at the Mast Step/Chassis Joint?? There could be advantage and disadvantage through Trade Offs in position of Steering Rake etc..

Thoughts please..
Ron

i dont know what you mean by neutral, you can only be under or over, is this really a construction thread?

Nikrum
Nikrum
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TAS, 1972 posts
7 Jun 2012 10:07am

Thanks Paul..
1; I put the thread here primarily because it is a discussion on Pros and cons of various Chassis styles. It was a toss up for me and here it is?? For better or for worse..
2; Although the Level/Straight "Y" Chassis (I haven't heard of one) is a possibility I am more interested in the YUS ("Y" Under Slung) like the Club 88/Occum's Razor as opposed to the YOT ("Y" Over Top).

The question is about Stability in extreme conditions. Having never sailed anything like a YOT I can only go on conjecture or others experience.

One also has to be aware of a Human Syndrome which states that "If it is the latest style then it has to be the best. Not always so but as you say let us Pick it Apart suck it a little, Mash it about and see what comes out in the wash.

I am thinking of building a new Chassis and I like the style of LY Little Stig pinched





Ron

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WA, 5921 posts
7 Jun 2012 8:47pm
the chassis from that photo started as a flat chassis set up for wheelbarrow wheels., it had plenty of ground clearanceand no problems with stability.
importantly the length of the main spine needs to be long so the stiff mast can make the whole thing flex.
also the axle need to longer than you would get with a T frame so the rear axle is raked back on each side by 20degrees.
this is quite common as it is how almost all the promo yachts are built. the 20 degree rake back relates to the FED 5, designed by mike hampton in the late 80's, early 90's.
my old pacific magic design has a lot more rake and i dont think it performs as well.
the cranked axles occured when i used the yacht as a test bed to destuction test( or not) my 26" wheels.
It certainly improved the performance, allowing the weight to be moved back , even upwind.
I made the cranked axles instead of vertical droppers as I found on earlier yachts that a dropper has some odd twist characteristics that were not good for wheel alignment,and handling
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