Tire tread and cant angle

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US772
US772
332 posts
332 posts
12 Jan 2013 12:46am
It appear many on here use a knobby tread 4.8x4x8 rather than the ribbed ones like the promos use. Is there a reason? I copied the LLF mini axle drawing provided . I came up with about a 5.2 degree angle of rear wheel cant. Is that right? Does any one prefer any more or any less? I started building my mini 2 days ago. It's really different than anyone that I have seen. It is monocoque construction with an enclosed front fuselage and front wheel. Don't know if it will work but am willing to try something new.
aus230
aus230
WA
1660 posts
WA, 1660 posts
12 Jan 2013 7:45am
I have used both rib and knobby tires, I think the rib tires are better, The Fallshaws wheels come with the knobby tires fitted (that is probably the reason they are on so many yachts) .I have now changed mine to rib.
As for axle wheel cant, most of them are around 5 degree. I prefer a little more.I have mine set at 8.5 degree.



Chook2
Chook2
WA
1249 posts
WA, 1249 posts
12 Jan 2013 10:56am
Yeh as Vic said, a knobby tyre is what comes fitted to the Falshaw rims.

I keep rotating/exchanging them with all the new ones I get, to wear them evenly.

My LLM axle angle is 5 degrees and the rear wheel can simply be turned 180 degrees to wear the other side evenly.

Our “Pink Lake” in Esperance, is not abrasive, so my wear problem is only at Lake Lefroy and I'll put up with any amount of wear to sail there.
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
14 Jan 2013 9:52pm
aschook said,thats the tyre the wheels come with. on our salt lake or your clay they are slower,and heavier.
but where Vic sails they are fine in a mini,but in cl5 i just kept getting punctures so I changed the back tyres to knobblies and never looked back.
keep in mind that they are a very good quality knobbly, taller than the ribbed,and a really solid 4ply(6ply is too stiff ,heavy).
in the US I would look out for a ribbed brand called windbell?
colk2004
colk2004
317 posts
317 posts
15 Jan 2013 2:47am
At Elvington, UK which is an old airbase (one of the designated European sites for landing the space shuttle if needed) we get really high wear rates so the knobblies go on the club yachts as they last a while and the ribbed get used for racing....there is another variable as well which is the number of plies, as these tyres come in 2,3, or 4 ply.

Cheers Col
Hiko
Hiko
1229 posts
1229 posts
15 Jan 2013 4:52am
I use 2 ply ribbed tyres on my ski axle minis. They are used on tarmac carparks mostly
and stand up quite well. They are set at 5 degrees but with the flex of the axles they end up with more camber depending on weight
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
15 Jan 2013 11:25pm
Hiko said...
I use 2 ply ribbed tyres on my ski axle minis. They are used on tarmac carparks mostly
and stand up quite well. They are set at 5 degrees but with the flex of the axles they end up with more camber depending on weight



Maybe you are not sailing hard enough!!

I had a favourite sailing spot in the Gladstone Harbour precinct which was a hard standing area that was "hot mix" tar sealed, about a half an acre in area and 200 metres from the water's edge (great wind exposure).

A pair of new ribbed 2 ply Deli Tyres (standard issue on blokarts) could be turned into baldies by the end of a good 4 hour session. Go 6 hours and you are down to the canvas.

In the gybe turns you could hear the sweet sound of the rubber being peeled off. The slide outs were real ooombacacky ( a word from my early teen contemporaries used to describe anything that gave you a hard on) .

I also tried DEESTONE tyres (2 ply rated) which stood up better, possibly because they are nylon. However, they are slightly heavier and not as well balanced which robs speed.

I have not yet sailed a dry salt lake bed but until I do my opinion remains that "hot mix" bitumen and smooth concrete are the best for SPEED landsailing.

When I have found my 100 acres of ocean front land, had it laser levelled and sealed with "hot mix" bitumen, I will let you all know.

The landsailing will be free because the on site tyre shop will fund it all.
Hiko
Hiko
1229 posts
1229 posts
16 Jan 2013 4:18am
The brand I have been using have been Kings they wear but have been pretty good
The car park is a mix of concrete tarmac and grass The turning is mostly on the
tarmac We try to keep off the grass
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