Beer-5 seat

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desertyank
desertyank
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1264 posts
14 Jul 2010 4:21pm
Hi all,

Been doing some on/off building, sail cutting, etc. I am at the point now where i have to make a seat for the thing. Pretty sure I am going to glass over wood for construction.

Now 'THE QUESTION' ; What angle should I make the seatback? From posts, and videos, it looks like 20-30 degrees is average. Is that about right? I want to be as comfortable, and laid flat as possible ( I think!?!?) but still need to see over my feet.

Also, is it better to have a curved back like the Standart, or a flat base and a flat back?

Any pictures would help.

Thanks, John

edit: the yacht's name came from the fact that i used more construction fluid than steel to build it so far.... and it's a class 5 five size rig
Hiko
Hiko
1229 posts
1229 posts
14 Jul 2010 4:43pm
Hi John
I have two yachts one is a LLf mini with flat surfaces and the seat back is around 30 degrees and the other is a class 5 with a seat back that is curved in a sweep from the flat body but overall about the same 30 degrees Am I making sense?
The class five seat is slightly curved also crossways and is as you would expect
more comfortable than the mini but I am happy with the mini
I used to have a partially filled specially made bean bag in the class 5 and that was really comfortable but was not so suitable for the quick start short course racing that we mostly do as you had to settle in to it and was just one more thing to do when getting away
Great on the long hauls though it was an effort keeping awake for the deep channel at the end of the beach !
I found Clemcos hammock type seat on his mini also very comfortable as it moulded itself to the body I think its seat back also is about 30 degrees

Cheers Hiko
Test pilot 1
Test pilot 1
WA
1430 posts
WA, 1430 posts
14 Jul 2010 5:57pm
The seat on my LLM and my Promo both came from the same mold basically and they are at about 30 degrees with double curves and spine ridge. The spine ridge allows the shoulders to sit back a bit further which is very comfortable on long hauls.
desertyank
desertyank
1264 posts
1264 posts
14 Jul 2010 6:08pm
Thanks for the responses. I'm not sure what a 'spine ridge' is, though. Do you have a picture of that one?
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
21 Jul 2010 2:29pm
the ridge was a little hump behjind the shoulder blades to stop the shoulders from bunching. it worked very well , then everybody went off on a cushion fad and covered them up. If yoo hve a Y frame chassis and a sewing machine a soft seat is great. If its a T frame you will struggle to fit a soft seat, but a curved wood/glass combo is not too hard. try getting some bits of board and some bloks on a flat surface and move them around to get your comfort position then measure and build. I do like to have a small footwell to help keep my feet in
desertyank
desertyank
1264 posts
1264 posts
5 Aug 2010 7:45am
Finally got going again. Most of the thing is thin plywood, and the end curves are cardboard. Still have a ways to go, but here's what i have for now. The overall angle is 27 degrees or so, and it has a compound curve on the upright portion. feels ok on the ground, will mount it, and try it when I can.

Thanks again for the input! (I think i used it)







It's OK if it looks a bit like an old west coffin, right?[}:)]
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
5 Aug 2010 8:25pm
Thats looking rather nice and comfy
I'm starting on a stitch seam seat as well so it will be good to see how your glassing goes ahead of mine .
i do like the little concavity. Maybe you could decorate it with boots and hung up sidearm
yesterday i was walking past the undertakers and there were some big boxes that the coffins were delivered in. i couldnt resist , and had to ask , but they reckoned they send them back to the coffin shop
lachlan3556
lachlan3556
VIC
1066 posts
VIC, 1066 posts
5 Aug 2010 11:13pm
First thing everyone always says about my seats (similar to yours) is that they look like little coffins. Lets hope our creations dont ever live up to their look-alike wooden cousins
Hiko
Hiko
1229 posts
1229 posts
6 Aug 2010 4:31am
That concavity in the seat is a masterstroke I read somewhere once
that comfort in a seat has more to do with shape than cushioning
and I have noticed that some hard chairs can be quite comfortable
Some plastic deckchairs for example
Must remember that for next time !
Good stuff!


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WA
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WA, 2775 posts
6 Aug 2010 8:36pm
landyacht said...


yesterday i was walking past the undertakers and there were some big boxes that the coffins were delivered in. i couldnt resist , and had to ask , but they reckoned they send them back to the coffin shop


Paul- I have noticed that there seems to be a consistent supply of coffins at balcatta, do you want me to get them to put one aside for you....

and no- I cant pick it up- Anna would chuck a wobbly if I came home with a coffin on the roof of the bubblecar
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
6 Aug 2010 8:41pm
thanks for the offer, but if I am lucky enough to get even a weeks notice of my impending end, I plan to build my own from recycled bits, , possibly making it amphibious to cover all possibilities in the next life
Test pilot 1
Test pilot 1
WA
1430 posts
WA, 1430 posts
7 Aug 2010 9:40am
As well as amphibious try making it fire proof. You never know which way you'll go![}:)] [}:)]
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