Hi. I am wondering if anyone has any experience with the plans available at www.landsailerplans.com/ .

Its the mini 5.6 that I'm vaguely considering building.

My position is that I have a fairly good workshop, reasonable fabrication experience, but no knowledge or experience with land yachts at all - so any advice would be welcome.

cheers
Arron

Hi Arron.
The plans look fine, there are also plans on here that you may consider. they have proved very successful and built all over the world.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Land-Yacht-Sailing/Construction/Build-a-Landyacht-Lake-Lefroy-Mini-Yacht/?page=1

Cheers
Vic

the same steering is used in both landyachts although it is more vertical in the landsailer and the LLM also breaks down for transport. I used to carry mine in a toyota starlet. Also the forum contains improvement ideas that are continually being upgraded. Chook's thread on his latest build for example. Another factor is the LLM is much more flexible than your planned yacht making it in ideal yacht to learn on for both construction and sailing



















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Chook2 said..
I'm not knocking the pictured plans at all, but all the yachts pictured on the site are of a different configuration regarding mast placement steering components. So why not make up yours as an individual LLM design as well.

Actually, the individuality of the llm design is the main thing that makes me hesitant. Being in the position of having no experience, no access to see the things working and no-one to get in-the-flesh advice from I'm a bit hesitant about the need for modification and refinement. I've done this sort of thing before and I know that the best way for a beginner to get a satisfactory (not optimum but satisfactory) result is to have detailed plans and just follow them closely. Do X and you get Y, with no need to make decisions without the experience to support those decisions.

Of course, I'm not sold on the landsailerplans.com designs either.
1. The design might be a complete dog, who knows.
2. The plans mightnt be much good. I bought some furniture plans once and the first couple were fine but the later ones were just cut and paste jobs with bits that didnt/couldnt fit together.
3. The design seems to require a lot of fiddly fabrication - little flanges and struts and so on.
4. I wonder if the whole thing isnt a bit rattly when moving at speed. Vaious critical components are bolted together not welded..

And yes, I did notice that the three yacts in the More Photos section were completely different. Thats a big worry.

Anyone know of any US forum or resource where I might get more information on them?

Thanks for the responses so far
Cheers
Arron

I built two Lake Lefroy Mini's. I had no landsailing experience and very little fabrication experience. Both turned out very well and it was a lot of fun. You have access to an incredible knowledge base of experience. Any questions were quickly answered. Even Nikrum was helpful. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. This is a great project.

brian

OK, after a bit more study I'm leaning towards the LLM design. I haven't been able to locate any happy owners of the landsailer plans which is a worry, and anyway its always good to go with the herd in these things.

Thinking it through a bit - I'm taking my time but due to recent events I cant get started for a while anyway - and the main modification I would need to make to the basic LLM design is that I would need to make it transportable inside a Ford Focus hatch. To do this I would need to make the back axle detachable from the central column. I guess there are a lot of ways to do this but I am wondering how other people have gone about it. Can anyone advise ?

Obviously Test Pilot 1 you have done this to get it inside your Toyota Starlet - how did you do it ?

cheers
Arron

My Skiwi is a variant of Skimini which is a variant of the LLM .To transport mine I unbolt the front wheel assembly and the rear wheels and put the frame on the roof rack of my truck

Test pilot 1 said..
My yacht was made as per instructions
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Land-Yacht-Sailing/Construction/Build-a-Landyacht-Lake-Lefroy-Mini-Yacht/
The rear axles slide into the frame and are either bolted or clipped

I missed that. Thanks.
Arron

and thanks Tryhard. I read your Skiwi thread with interest.

and thanks SN (Stephen), can you tell me where you purchased those clips ?

cheers
Arron

ArronJ said..
and thanks SN (Stephen), can you tell me where you purchased those clips ?
cheers
Arron

I'm not very well known for purchasing "stuff"

Most of my "spring button clips" were salvaged from inside wrecked adjustable windsurfer booms.

A couple [made by the Australian manufacturer of pulley blocks - the Riley company], were given to me to try out.

For all intents they were identical to my salvaged spring button clips.

The R clip, and the thicker style pin with its attached spring retainer wire in the lower 2 pictures are available from most trailer spare part suppliers.

All photos were poached from google.
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You are on the right track with making your 2 piece mast, but you will need to strengthen each half of the mast near the join, by wrapping a few turns of woven fibreglass matt around them and glassing them in place.

"Landyacht" has pictures of this somewhere here......


stephen