NoBS said...
Nigga ppppplease!

Please explain why asking for information makes me a child? (perhaps I'm ill informed but the WAKSA's role is to professionally inform the kiteboarding public ... ie without insulting them) lol... OK I now understand the (waksa / AKSA / IKO) mission but seriously when someone asks you if its a requirement to be a member to kite (because they don't know) don't spout off about how they're a problemchild.

So Grandpa before you get all riled up .... I asked a simple question. (sorry about the no sure typo above. I meant not sure, perhaps thats the reason for the response. It could've been yes/no to the first question and a link to follow for more information)

I just wanted to know if it is a requirement to be a waksa / AKSA member to kiteboard in Australia / Cottesloe Beach? yes/ no ... maybe so? Also I asked this before at L2L and got no answer. Perhaps waksa should work on making your info more available … ie should work on your serps. A google search for kiteboarding cottesloe returns not a single listing within the first 5 pages …. lots of kiteboarding schools but not a single listing for waksa membership or waksa insurance reqs for dutchies or south cottesloe beach. Not everyone knows about Seabreeze, guess this information isn't as publicly available as you guys previously believed. (Or perhaps the only path to enlightenment is through a waksa approved instructor?)

BTW I seriously thought the waksa membership came with the ticket. Sorry ... now I know.





Good grief, I asked if membership is a requirement and I got a campfire story. Anyway thx for the story gramps.

Scaring walkers... why the hell would I be up on marine parade with my kite? That would be a hell of a boost... next stop red bull king of the air. (yes lots of jokes could be made there.... I'll leave a space for yours_________.)

Btw most people don't walk south cott beach/dutchies... due to all the experienced waksa kiters there. Hmmm, it aint the beginners arguing with locals and landing jumps in the middle of little kids swimming huh? And you speak of antics?

Residents ....btw I am a cott resident. (not planning on kiting home anytime soon...( >>>>_____________.)

All humor aside.... If you waksa folks really want to police something…. (turn blind eye to truth now)

Go police the kiters and windsurfers setting up and breaking down in the middle of the playground at Dutchies while little kids are playing. (we turn a blind eye to that huge liability there huh... maybe because its waksa membership doing it?) The parenting groups are fairly fumed about that atm… not a clue huh?

Or the veterans kiting through swimmers at Cottesloe proper during downwinders. (hmm... I'd say more about NCSLC / CSLSC not being keen to that ? But ill pass....they're all coming from duchies with waksa cards…. right?)

BTW there's lots of fun to be found on mosman / dog beach as well. Dog owners are pretty pissed too.

Should I once again remind you of your pure and spotless members who do jumps and land in the middle of the little kids swimming... this is well past the posted waksa point (let me guess... now they're not waksa members now huh?)



This info about the req for cott kiters to be isn't easy to find… its simply not. Wouldn't it make more sense to start a permanently posted topic stating these regulations other than a link at the top of Kitesurfing Western Australia (& WAKSA) thread that states registration form which then points to a website which I'd then have search your website for the location. (I'd hate to be a visitor that doesn't speak the language needing to get this info only starting at seabreeze), google search or good or god forbid right at the beach. But better yet list a start with listing a flyer for Cottesloe here on seabreeze perhaps. Cause all I see listed is:



Cott nowhere to be found. Perhaps your idea was to tell off a beginner in the forums then permanently post that hmmmm… hows that working out for you?



Wow Einstein.
Response: Given ANY NEWBIES newb-ish errors & antics, the potential for SAID NEWBIE to injure a member of the public appears to be somewhat higher than experienced kiters. <<<< No comment needed.

I'll give you that I've made some epic mistakes ... I came up here to apologise to the local Cott Kiter community for them. Not get publicly lambasted, tar and feathered then -itch slapped by the waksa to be subsequently questioned about my liability and indemnity. (which you have every right to do... just not in the f--ing public forums) If you'd like to do that feel free to have waksa PM me. As witnessed above I'm well-versed in -itch slapping myself thank you.




Ok thanks for the link.... I had a waksa kite stock ticket that i got last minute but didn't attend (was epically crushed about not attending) ... but now I feel much better about it. Sorry that I misread the waksa kitestock registration form, I was under the impression that it included waksa membership. As I remember it I spoke with a waksa member during L2L that told me it was included in the ticket. Sorry... guess I shouldn't have trusted an waksa member huh. Anyway no need to pull out the Kitestock rego form and quote it on seabreeze... I misread it. (space for grandpa's campfire spiel about how a newbies mistake while reading the waksa rego got them and everyone else killed>>>>__________)

But if your trying to sell me insurance you're not doing a great job. Ok so membership gives me insurance but that doesn't make me experienced huh. But thats the spiel right hold em hostage, beat em down, take their cash then tell the cops that they were walking through the wrong neighbourhood... lol? So cop some insurance through membership and do as you darn well please with no regard for fellow kiters. ok not the best message… but thats how it reads. (all jokes intended ... but the waksa should probably invest in a new spokesperson for online image control... cause Juddy wth)

I guess your next question is if I've had lessons right??? ... then you'll try to point me in the direction of your closest waksa licensed instructor. (elemental, ako, kbp, ksw) #LOL

Anyway let me rephrase my question.... is IKO membership / insurance good enough for the waksa or is this a double tap payment situation here in Australia? Nevermind don't answer please.... you'll blowup the seabreeze datacentre with your long winded response. (>>>>>_____pot calling the kettle black….. perhaps we should both shut our blowholes and just get on with it?)

BTW other than the sign that just appeared at South Cottesloe Beach saying setup your kites 100 m down the beach there's nothing regarding liability/indemity/waksa membership info posted. (unless you or waksa hid it in the dunes.... ) So it's probably in the best interests of everyone involved that waksa posts this information for the public to see. ie not just on seabreeze and the waksa website. (That way this whole debacle doesn't happen every time a newbie posts something in the forum… or goes wth is waksa? work smarter not harder) I'd say the steps down to the beach would be a good place to start.... even dutchies playground (just put it on the kids slide, thats the official setup/ breakdown point right?) btw just to check my ass I just looked on my morning run/workout, not a sign in sight other than the new setup 100m down sign. But I guess thats the town of Cott's fault right?



LOL, I knew there'd be one, just didn't expect it to be you guys. BTW not once did I state someone said not to kite at dutchies / cottesloe beach as a beginner. I said.... "not exactly a beginners beach" .... this was stated by experienced kiters that learned there and I'm fairly sure are part of your membership. Back to availability and evangelism of your organisation.

Just a heads up... I appreciate the waksa's misson and what you guys are attempting to do for the sport. (safety, risk aversion, insurance, instruction, governance, compliance, events, promotion, location info etc) but most of the talk I've heard about waksa lately has been extremely negative and from this conversation I'm beginning to understand why.

I'm sure the reigning body will have another -itch slapping lined up for me tonight about how I should I should respect my elders and never talk back to the waksa when they scold me.

So in full irony I'll post @NOBS's picture for you (Juddy) .... hopefully my response is understood because last time my simple inquiries were not.