Hi all, this is a heads up for everyone kiting in and around the pond in Safety Bay. I know some will find it soft and useless posting this here but I think it helps to alarm fellow kiters and ensure that what they (will) experience is not a one off but an ongoing behaviour of a very angry hater. It is a matter of time someone will get hurt as this man is provoking anyone crossing his way remotely. I'll try to make it short and sweet. Recommendations are welcome with regards to how you might have dealt with a similar situation. Thank you.

Information is based on what I personally observed and others have told me yesterday. I have not been able to talk to him yet but must say from what I heard and from the way he behaves on the water there is little hope a chat will change his attitude. I shall try nevertheless. The idea is to make more people aware and if they experience similar things maybe more folks approaching him will actually have a lasting impact. I will also start bringing my gopro, maybe for a change it will be of use.

Bold/shaved I'd say around 40 but not sure. Riding with sunnies and a hat with ear flaps, old model (2010/2009?) Vegas in black and one in blue, launching and landing near WA Surf / toilets, then spending most of the time riding outside the pond on the seaweed / dredging boat, usually around 5pm to 7ish. Doing his backroll kiteloops ignoring the fact that he will need some space downwind and the fact that he will run into other kiters coming towards him with sufficient space for regularly passing but not for a trick just before they can pass each other. Did it yesterday several time to my girlfriend, the day before to myself, to another female kiter, to anyone out in the area he believes it's his. When he almost ran into the female rider (who rides with good skills and defensively, obeying all the rules and giving way when needed) as a result of his favourite trick, he started abusing her including thumb-to-throat accompanied by yelling "I'll kill you". This is where the tolerance stops. When a fellow male kiter saw this and approached him he replied he doesn't give a f, and good it will make her bugger off, her skills are crap anyway. He has been riding here for 5 years and the place was nice and empty.

I recognised the kite. While most of the time he is on a twintip, he was out on a surfboard once, some months ago. It was just me in the pond just before dusk and he mucked around on his sb, when he decided to come into the pond and ride directly towards me. I realised on time that this will lead to a collision and avoided him. I did not want to spoil my session because of some clearly disturbed maniac and there was space for everyone. I regret this now that I know this is not a one off. He keeps on doing this and will not stop until ?

If you Sir are reading this please post or send me a pm and we can sort something out. I am keen on helping understanding what makes you hate everyone. But trying to cause accidents is inacceptable. Have the guts and speak to us rather than continuing the dangerous route. We live here and we kite here every day, and we will be doing this. So get over it. Every x weeks you come out of nowhere and harrass people and this is not cool. Get some help really! For your own sake and others.

As I said before I understand approaching such person in person is probably the best way to deal with it and I will. But it seems important that others are aware of this too so he can get feedback from as many people as possible.

I would not post if this was just another insignificant one off grumpy bad day incident which happens and is not a big deal. Ta

Yeh Beatit, he wears that hat.

Silver hat guy was out again today but was on best behaviour. Either read this post or spoken to?

hey Silver hat as the posts are indicating you are starting to p--- people off, your actions are not isolated events and you may not know but they are not directed towards short term kiting tourists, we are locals that have been here for some time and are not going anywhere, the discussion on the beach yesterday by the local crew who are out in the pond every windy day rain hail or shine was how we can deal with you, stop being a d--k and think about joining us not fighting us, kiting can be fun you know, and by the way your back rolls look gay not that there is anything wrong with that.

The silver/white helmet older guy was out last night on a similar looking kite (at least in the latest hours of the day), as default said, is a nice older well behaved man. He is often there and certainly not bothering anyone! Please don't mix him up with the other one who instead wears a base cap with ear flaps, brownish or greyish color rather than silver from what I remember, and black sunnies. Bigger guy.

We are all watching you big angry man. You can threaten us punching our faces as much as you like. But as a large group of locals we will make sure you will be paying for it. We don't want you here. This is not flight club. Kiteboarding is for friendly sportsmen helping each other and enjoying the spot together obeying each other's space. Backrolls kiteloops hooked in are not as great either mate, nothing to feel utterly superior about. BTW Starboard way of right only applies for passing each other. Not if you through a trick just before passing therefore ending up in front of the other kiter as you shoot downwind. Yelling at that person and even abuse them makes you a real asshole. Go and take your medicine!

This guy got all crazy with me today as well. He changed directions without even looking and crossed my lines. Both kites down. Just after that he started screaming at me, insulting and making threatening gestures like he will cut my throat. Haha, sounds funny, but wasn't funny in that moment. After that when we got to the shore he waited till Matt left me alone (thanks Matt for getting my kite), and again the crazy and violent gestures began. I just told him "man chill out, peace and love", and as he saw i had no intentions, I didn't even tell him it was his fault, even though it clearly was, he left me alone.
I don't know what's wrong with this guy but we don't deserve to take his **** when we are just trying to have a relaxed session.

rollo19 said..

poor guy, some one please shank him so he can chill out at home and enjoy prescription meds

Why does someone not post a picture or photo of this idiot up so we can all have a good look at him and you never know he may meet his match before the end of the season

just give him a whipping... or if he's big and you're scared it might go the other way then just get a few people riding to crowd him during his session and make him lose his **** and go home or deflate all 4 of his tires... he'll realise he's not wanted.

Put a picture up!!!!!
I am a beginner / regular / local that kites at the back of the pond cos I'm still learning and don't want to get in other kiters way (respect thing) I want to know who I need to avoid!!! My turning / coordination isn't the greatest at this stage but I'm getting there. This is my local spot too (live 600m from the pond).
I want to be safe and keep others safe.

You can borrow my phone

Hows that going to work?(a phone)?...lol

Try and borrow one
At least then if he ever visits city beach leighton etc and does the same thing he will be known!..
Or Sydney...i was reading this !!

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Ugly-scene/#1466383

Good point mdsxr .....&thanx ..all angles are being covered

andy t ..you couldnt trust him with kids at all ..try talking to him!! ..he cant communicate hence never in the actual pond.

MDSXR6T said..

Timmy, i wouldn't waste my time with legal action or petitions. Just tell him to f**k off. Every time he comes back, let his tyres down. You cant get pinged for damage to his car and can you imagine the hassles of having 4 flat tyres.

What's really disturbing is that old mate is 50 years old. Surely at that age, your about 30 years past your agro days and it might be wise not to take on young blokes who are probably stronger and faster? Especially if they are from the mean streets of Rocko

about 15 years ago bare knuckle fights were the go around the dock road in the uk, never saw a young bloke out gun an older bloke, its called heart, another example of a softening Australia, ffs give him a slap