What's the diff between the mystic warrior and the len10 model does anyone know?

eppo said...
What's the diff between the mystic warrior and the len10 model does anyone know?

Other than graphics, the spreader bar has a bigger hook for holding the chicken loop in place whilst Unhooking and the clicker release is also different.

wheels said...

Whats the comfortable harness you have ever owned.

There is only one harness worth buying - its always the same one.
Its the one that fits you best!
Try them all till you find it.

Hey - I need to plug the Pat Love series of waist harnesses. I have used Naish ones - shocking, Cabrinah, ordinary, a Mystic Warrior 2 - solid nice harness but the Pat Love I have - called "cast" I think - is just beautiful. The warrior 2 is a little more solid and stiff - but that actually makes it less comfortable, especially for extended switch riding I find. I'm a little round in the middle and not the worlds greatest kiter - if I'm going to boost really big and way out on reef breaks, I'll probably use the warrior - but for the majority of blasting about and cruising, the Pat Love is just so much better. It's still solid and firm and works really well - switch riding and boosting and my regularly failed back rolls.

And what's the deal with that totally crappola latch on the warrior? Not sure what the 3 has but the 1 and 2 have got that stupid tounge that is supposed to be inserted into a closed tunnel where the levers that open it up are buried beneath that stupid rubber protector? Bad description I guess but with wet sand in it and cold wet fingers its just the least effective way to achieve the objective I think? Don't know what others think?

The new mystic majestic is out to take over from the warrior , they must be getting sick of adding numbers on the back of the same name harness every year . The point is has anyone tried it, a full review will be great .

mc said...
The new mystic majestic is out to take over from the warrior , they must be getting sick of adding numbers on the back of the same name harness every year . The point is has anyone tried it, a full review will be great .

I've tried them both one in my shop, still prefer the warrior, but I am sure some people will like the Majestic.

any chnace of a real review of the flying objects combo, ie the waste harness with the seat combo attachment , anyone got one

pumpnjump said..

eppo said...

pumpnjump said...
I believe the Warrior is too stiff in the mid back, the Flight Control supports the small of your back, whereas the Warrior flattens it out and that is no good for back pain, the Flight Control still offers a lot of support its certainly not soft. I ride both surfboards and twin tips and kite pretty much every day we have wind in Gero, with quite a few long sessions. 14th year kiting.

Ooh you sound like someone who I should listen to then, one your years on the water and two the winds up that way are fierce and you need good support. I will have to look into this one for sure.

What kite do you use man?

BEST TS2, there's nothing else worth using!!

I just bought 3 Best TS V2 ,a 7m ,a 9m and a 12m,looking forward to trying them out

Replaced my chameleon waist harness for the new ion vertex harness, thought about the apex but wanted little more freedom of movement. Harness works great for my 86 pies slightly rounded belly lol, best of all I can now go 2hrs non stop without any more spine tingling lower back pain and as long as I do it up properly there's no digging in the rib cage issues

Simple rule for harnesses from a mate who instructs in gerro.

Waist harness if your under 40.
Seat huggies type if your tubby and over 40.

eppo said..

Yep I have an ion waist harness from Aks. It is comfy doesn't ride up but I unlike saffer have a decent chest. Lol. But it still gives lower back soreness due to my obsession with height.

My brother has the ion shorts from same place but they did into my ribs no good for me. Bit yeh nice and low pull. Hence why I have asked about the nitrous shorts and other options. The north transformer and the dyna bar ones with straps sound a good compromise. Also will check out the Flight control pump jump been around a while.

I have the Nitrous shorts and love them. Never had any stress points just outstanding support and hook sits low which I prefer

I' been riding with dakine waist harnesses for over 4 years and find them fantastic. Have tried other alternatives in the process but none have fit my body type that well, and that's what it's about, the features and benefits do vary over manufacturers but it about the fit at the end if the day and availability. If you stuff a spreader bar in an odd town what's the most likely brand to be stocked that will easily fit?? I'm currently on the dakine renegade, Kim at gero S&S stocks dakine.

Forgot to mention I'm not hooked that often on a surfboard so don't feel the pains that other tubby guys may do!

Ion Vertex, very comfortable for wave use, no need for a sliding hook as it will slide easily with no chafe.

Lots of opinions and I'll throw my two cents in, after trying the three types: a seat (diaper style); the waist; and the boardshorts, I'm very happy with the Liquid Force Boardshorts harness (combined with a Dynabar Sliding Hook). As for myself, the boardshorts is the better compromise between the freedom of a waist harness and the secure stability of a seat. I believe the best testament for any piece of gear your wearing, is forgetting it's even there. This is my experience with the Liquid Force Boardshorts. There's no periodic adjusting as with a waist harness it's just set and forget it. The Dakine Nitrous is also nice, but I find the hook too low for my taste, although I'm sure I'd get used to it quickly enough. And the sliding hook (the Dynabar in this case) makes up for any maneuverability issues created by a fixed hook on a seat harnesses. It's the best of both worlds and every seat harness ought to have some sort of sliding hook; again an opinion based on personal preference.

Check out the ION Boardshorts as well. My buddy loves his. Like all articles of clothing, so to speak, one size doesn't always fit all. So what's comfortable for one, doesn't always feel good for others. It's best to try one on, or better still, demo a friends if you can.

This all said, not everyone is going to like a one particular harness style verses another. For example, most hardcore wakestyle riders would not be at home with a sliding hook and probably never caught dead on seat style harness. It's a question of function and of course style. I on the other hand, find the seat style harness to be an advantage. Not only does it never ride up, but it offers me a lower center of gravity useful when riding strapless on a directional; especially in waves or riding swell. I'm less likely to get pulled off my board verses a waist harness. Being a smaller rider, it also gives me that little extra leverage on those occasions I'm riding overpowered. This advantage applies to riding both my surfboard or twin tip. Having a lower hook also helps by bringing the bar in closer and not having to reach so far to depower - I have t-rex length arms. The final advantage with this combination is that it can nearly eliminate any chance of crunching your ribs. The sliding hook and the way it pivots up and down goes a long way to help in this area.

I hear that a seat can create bad habits in your riding style, especially if you're a newbie - aka pooh stance. I learned to ride with a waist harness and it forces you to ride with proper posture. The seat shouldn't be a problem however if you're conscious of this.

Btw, jumping isn't a problem with the Dynabar either (with the optional Pro Wave Slider).

So it's a matter of style, personal preference, and even body type, so comfort can be relative.

Seat harness. I'm on my second Dakine Fusion. The 2014 model Is awesome. I would recommend it for anyone with back concerns or just want to be comfortably supported while riding. I hear it maybe restricting if you are into freestyle 360 type jumps ;)