Small kite ( 7m ) with most bottom end grunt

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undone
undone
WA
32 posts
WA, 32 posts
6 Sep 2009 10:57am


Rider: 80kg kiting for 8years
Style: Freeriding, Surf, Wake, Freestyle
Weather: 15 knots

Hi, I am after some idears on which small kite has the most bottom end grunt.
I currently ride a 7m helix on a 132 drop mostly in the waves and a little in flat water. I have had used a number of different brands over the years and my last kite was a 7m warroo. I thought the warroo had slightly better bottom end. I liked both kites and can get out kiting from 15 knots on, but enjoy 20 to 25 knots the most. At 15 knots have to work the kite heaps.
I know I am asking a tough question but would appreciate some feedback.
NSW, 4382 posts
6 Sep 2009 2:01pm
undone said...



Rider: 80kg kiting for 8years
Style: Freeriding, Surf, Wake, Freestyle
Weather: 15 knots

Hi, I am after some idears on which small kite has the most bottom end grunt.
I currently ride a 7m helix on a 132 drop mostly in the waves and a little in flat water. I have had used a number of different brands over the years and my last kite was a 7m warroo. I thought the warroo had slightly better bottom end. I liked both kites and can get out kiting from 15 knots on, but enjoy 20 to 25 knots the most. At 15 knots have to work the kite heaps.
I know I am asking a tough question but would appreciate some feedback.


See if you can get a demo on a Core Combat GT 7M, they are one of the gruntiest kites around.
Another option would be an 8M Ozone 2009 Light XC, very grunty design, low bar pressure and excellent, tight turning, balance and drift for waves.
Where in Oz are you based and how much do you weigh?

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

juggler
juggler
VIC
243 posts
VIC, 243 posts
6 Sep 2009 4:20pm
2010 9m fuel
NJPornstar
NJPornstar
WA
790 posts
WA, 790 posts
6 Sep 2009 5:35pm
8m ALIBI
This is a great all round high wind kite. Perfect for super high jumps and kite loops. Good bar feedback for a small kite and medium/fast speed across the wind window.

This size ALIBI excels in the waves. It is recommended for riders who use surf boards and only want 1 kite for the waves.

It will work with your TT for sure.
waxman
waxman
SA
1390 posts
SA, 1390 posts
6 Sep 2009 8:59pm
I had a 7.5m bandit that i could ride from 16kts and i weigh 95kgs on a normal tt board. you need to look for a fast flying kite that you can generate speed with. i have also tried the 5m revolt from fone which was super fast and a lot cheaper than the bandit dos or bandit 3. I have also heard good things about crosbows.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
6 Sep 2009 9:00pm
7m 08 Ozone edge 2
Don't let the light bar pressure fool you the kite has amazing grunt and a great range.
max_ob
max_ob
QLD
188 posts
QLD, 188 posts
6 Sep 2009 11:36pm
try an EH 7m Ovando
ADS
ADS
WA
365 posts
ADS ADS
WA, 365 posts
6 Sep 2009 10:30pm
RRD Obsession - the only kite I used last summer in WA (surfboard) and I'm 88Kg's.
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
7 Sep 2009 1:03am
6m flysurfer pulse 2 has the power of an average 9m bow,and 50% bigger useable windrange. you wont beat that.
RAL INN
RAL INN
SA
2897 posts
SA, 2897 posts
7 Sep 2009 8:40am
undone said...



Rider: 80kg kiting for 8years
Style: Freeriding, Surf, Wake, Freestyle
Weather: 15 knots

Hi, I am after some idears on which small kite has the most bottom end grunt.
I currently ride a 7m helix on a 132 drop mostly in the waves and a little in flat water. I have had used a number of different brands over the years and my last kite was a 7m warroo. I thought the warroo had slightly better bottom end. I liked both kites and can get out kiting from 15 knots on, but enjoy 20 to 25 knots the most. At 15 knots have to work the kite heaps.
I know I am asking a tough question but would appreciate some feedback.


if you were happy with your Helix and waroo but just a want a bit extra grunt then the 7m Bandit Dos fits the bill. the reports are that the Bandit 111 has shed some bottom end grunt which at any rate will bring it back to the Helix and Waroo.
so maybe the 8m Bandit 111.





wawando
wawando
20 posts
20 posts
7 Sep 2009 8:10am
Hi, i would definitly try bandit dos 7m and rebel 7m 2009 or 2010.
bearbusa
bearbusa
QLD
295 posts
QLD, 295 posts
8 Sep 2009 11:23am
RRD Obsession, im 76 kgs and can ride my 125 board from18 to 40, can still ride up to 35 on jimmy lewis rad -f (red)
pro merc
pro merc
NSW
300 posts
NSW, 300 posts
8 Sep 2009 12:17pm
7m Fluid ATV has pretty good bottom end and a massive range with options to tune bar pressure and turning speed. i usually ride it in the gusty westerlies when it can be 14-30knots and it works really well. it is probably one of the stiffest kites out there as well with a decent DIA leading edge and struts, super stable and good in the waves as well!
BrisKites
BrisKites
QLD
1293 posts
QLD, 1293 posts
10 Sep 2009 8:12pm
This one
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
10 Sep 2009 10:45pm
wow those flysurfers got some decent top end!

seein that they not even sining the kites its obviously pretty windy
vishy
vishy
WA
451 posts
WA, 451 posts
11 Sep 2009 11:33am
Bottom end grunt, the Flow would be worth a look, super grunty, either 08 or the 09,

Just demo,

Matt
walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
11 Sep 2009 1:09pm
7m 05' Fuel

Damn that thing had some balls
mattyjee
mattyjee
WA
575 posts
WA, 575 posts
11 Sep 2009 3:17pm
As vishy said above, the 7m Airush Flow gets the go down low.

I have an 08 (it actually used to be vishy's in previous day) and I can (only) just get going in about 16-17kts with a 132cm board and 74kg of meat. Its bottom end is probably only about 2-3 knots more than my 10m I reckon. Bit trickier in waves however, i usually need at least 20 to get around properly.

I've been out on my 7m when others have had 11s and 12s out (when i accidentally left my big kite at home).

Speaking of which, I might go fly her now...
wawando
wawando
20 posts
20 posts
12 Sep 2009 8:35am
After my last sessions, I strongly rise my bet on the Rebel 2010 7m.
kenno
kenno
QLD
293 posts
QLD, 293 posts
12 Sep 2009 4:18pm
I have not flown them all but one thing I do know is the 7m GT has heaps of grunt. It’s certainly worth a look?
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
12 Sep 2009 10:37pm
I think the core bar is alot nicer the the bandit's
thorn
thorn
WA
172 posts
WA, 172 posts
13 Sep 2009 1:54pm
I have no affiliation with Core and my 7m Core combat gt has heaps of grunt. It's my first 7m and am amazed at the power and fun level.
ewan kite
ewan kite
VIC
928 posts
VIC, 928 posts
13 Sep 2009 9:51pm
juggler said...

2010 9m fuel

yea dude, thats such a sick 7m....
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
14 Sep 2009 8:44pm
undone said...

Hi, I am after some idears on which small kite has the most bottom end grunt.

I know I am asking a tough question but would appreciate some feedback.


Sure is a tough question.... ^^^
because there is no unit-of-grunt for rating kite pull.
Grunt measurement is not printed on the leading edges of kites yet.
Kites aren't rated by horsepower...
only by coolness, graphix, colour and whorespower.
If you could test say 3 different 7m kites in an afternoon...
back to back, using the same board in the same weather conditions....
at the end of the day you could probably identify the grunty-est of the trio.
But that would leave you 30 other brands to test-fly.
I look for fat dudes who fly small kites and are ripping.
That's a good indication of gruntiness.
But maybe their technique is good,
maybe they are good kite-flyers,
maybe the kite is grunty,
maybe it's a bit of both.

treedweller
treedweller
QLD
59 posts
QLD, 59 posts
15 Sep 2009 6:04pm
have flown my girlfriends 7m revolt (fone) and am very impressed by bottom end. try anything you can get your hands on .there are many good kites out there these days
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