Is this the new 2009 hp??????????????

We have all seen the inovations that the kite industry have released in previous years, but I can assure you that the new Nemesis HP from Best is innovation. The new technology in the Leading Edge is by far the most down to earth smartest idea I have seen yet, and best of all it works. I have flown the 10, and 12 and comming from the Nemesis HP in 08, the 09 kites are better in every shape and form as well as graphics.

Unfortunately Im not allowed to let much out of the bag yet, but I will say that the whole range this year is beyond anything I have seen in any kite boarding company ever, Ive been involved in this industry now for nearly 10 years, and over the past 3 years the products that all companies are releasing are making the transition into Kiteboarding easier and progression quicker. This year with Best Kiteboarding's release, we will see the Beginners become Intermediates and the Intermediates become Adavanced quicker than ever before....

Hang on to your pocket money, cause you will need to fly a new Best kite for 2009, if not you will be missing out on a very cool experience..

Yeh, thats probably one thing that shouldnt happen, No brand sets out to design a kite for anything to go wrong with it hey.

2009 Best will have a new warranty policy, "Fair and Reasonable". If you happen to break your kite, take back to your local dealer and they will asses it. The policy looks after those that buy a kite, only fly it a few times in the first 3 months, then in the 6,7,8,9,month whatever, they take it out and something goes wrong, then there is a good chance if the problem is a manufacturers fault, it will be replaced.

This is a solid warranty policy that doesnt set a time barrier for warranties. This product has been tested properly, and a lot of work has gone into it.

Looks like its a twin skin??

i haven't seen a lot of innovation from best over the years so i'm a little skeptical on pretty much everything you have said.

The Cuben fibre material in the leading edge,, VP2 front line bridle system,, the canopy framing material, reduced diameter of the LE, these are only a few innovations that no other company are using and they are innovations that I think make a big difference to kite control, performance and durability.

I look at the other brands over the past few years and they have almost released the same kite each year just with a new splash of graphic, tweaked aspect ratio and different length bridle lines. Best Kiteboarding tend to have the guts to try ideas that are not the norm, and have the technology and will to make progression in design.

When I saw the new shaped kites from a paticular brand last year I was amped on them. I was told that they were the way of the future, that the shape and the performance were better than any before. The first day I got one I noticed the difference, but unfortunately for the worst, it was stable and performed ok, but I had this picture in my mind that when I flew this kite for the first time I would notice a massive difference to anything I had ridin before, and that this kite would progress my riding to the next level. I felt differently and after a few weeks of solid riding, wasnt prepared to waist my time and went back to what felt better and performed better and allowed me to constantly progress my riding. The 3 or 4 of those kites we sold in our area were all sold from our initial enthusiasm we had of the product.

Skeptisism is probably a good thing, but dont turn a blind eye to something new. One day all companies will step up to the design demands and everyone will be in the same boat. After trying the new Best kites in Spain last week, I am convinced that the company, their backup service, their warranty policies, kite design and kite construction will lead them into a good year. The new Leading edge technology is a great idea and allows the kite more flexibilty in areas that need it. Hope you have a chance to at least see it.

Joe

Personally I don't see minor bridle changes or additional canopy material as innovations. These are improvements but not exactly massive innovation, its a simple case of "Hmmm, our canopy keep breaking, how do we fix this? Oh, I know, lets put extra material on them!"

The bow/sle concept was innovation, everything else is currently more on a level of refinements.

It looks like a pretty damn sweet kite.

Has anything major changed on the bar this year? I were quite impressed with the 08 bar.

I'm guessing Best have changed that dicky 2 piece stainless insert design on the bar?

Neill said...

Cuben fibre material on the leading edge - not really an innovation, just a different material. they still suffered blowouts like a lot of other kites.



Canopy framing material? you mean ripstop dacron? errr........ yeah.......... nothing needs to be said.

The Cuben Fibre material is the reason the LE diameter can be so small, along with its durability. There have been very few blo outs on the Cuben material itself, it has always been the standard Dacron material that has given way.


The Canopy Framing material isnt what it is made of, it is how it is positioned to protect the canopy from a hard blow. I thought this was a well thought out progression in canopy design and it seems that Best is the only company to do so.

Thats my opinion on it. I think Best have not only thought of different ways to improve quality in their sails but have implemented it without increasing the prices to a unafordable level. I only pimp Best because it is what I believe is the better product on the market in all areas.

Thanks

Joe

Neill , nice pic's of cook islands last year

I have punished the waroo pro's and HP's
cuben fibre material on the leading edge - not really an innovation, just a different material. they still suffered blowouts like a lot of other kites.
with respect "thats a load of crap!!"[}:)]
i use 10-12psi flat water & in big surf ' strong wind my kites have been trashed in on-shore 3m + waves dumped on them torn lines but the kites are sweet , you dont need a heap of bride lines like the ozone edge (centre Y lines) what a mess !, to hold the shape in the leading edge , the hp is simple easy set up ,
my own experience cuben fibre is bullet proof , kite does not twist at all even throught strong wind kite loops ,sensitive / super response to slightest bar movement ( Q pro power lines)just holds it shape in the most extreme conditions ,awesome to jump and fly /glide `

thats why i stick to the brand 4 line C kite feel & simplicity

general_dude said...

Neill,

I'm with you. The infill behind the leading edge seems like such an obvious thing to do to improve aerodynamics. Sort of like a twinskin with an inflatable LE.

I wonder if any manufacturer's tried this?

Yep twas tried by a czech company about 5 years ago .C kite

I was riding waroo pro’s in 07 kited all summer here WA and Tarifa in the winter 07,
All the waroo pros riders I’ve seen in my travels which in Tarifa their was a heap never seen or heard about “ cuben fibre leading edge “ blow outs ”

When a kite turns, it actally twists.
So if you have sections that allow the twisting section to be alot easier, yet have a rock hard solid leading edge as you can with cuben fibre, you're going to get a kite that turns in a much more refined manner, easier and faster.
I'm really looking forward to test the 12 and 14.

As for the infill panel, that would be great if the kite was actually a wing and you had thrust. In a kite sitauation if it is too efficient it would just overshoot the edge of the window when powering through.

If you were looking for efficiency, I'd be looking at nice thin strong non stretch lines, pump your kite hard (with cuben even better) , have a nice fast responsive board and ditch the booties

2009 Best kit tested here:www.xtremebigair.com/ Does not tell you a great deal though.

do these segments also inadvertently allow for bending or are there cool crazy fibres arranged in a certain direction to allow for twisting but not extra bending?

I do wonder how they will go with bladder wear at the torsion points though - although i guess at 10psi the bladder will probably just deform and not rub anyway?

The animated picture exagerates the movement more than what actually occurs. There is definately movement there but not enough to allow the bladder to be effected at all.

do these segments also inadvertently allow for bending or are there cool crazy fibres arranged in a certain direction to allow for twisting but not extra bending?

You got it, the cool crazy fibres (kevlar) are positioned so that the horizontal non stretch fibre runs in line with the leading edge. There is no loss of strength from tip to tip at all, Also there has been some tweaks to the bridle system but nothing dramatic.

The strength of the kite (tip to tip) isnt compramised at all. The shape is as solid as the previous Nemesis but has the ability to twist. This idea has been tested in the Best R & D now for a couple of years and Ive been riding my pre prod mod for a few months. There is no sign of wear, the LE is super strong and relaunch for the experienced rider is not a prob. The added performance with consistant turning power, makes this kite better than the 08 Nemi,.

You just got to try one out. Im not kidding...

Joe