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ChopinJo
ChopinJo
QLD
8 posts
QLD, 8 posts
23 Jan 2012 7:04pm
Looking at purchasing my first kite and was looking at the Griffin Argo 10m. Would someone be able to offer some advice on the build quality and ease of flying this kite. As i am new to the sport.

Thank you for your response !

strapped
strapped
NSW
171 posts
NSW, 171 posts
23 Jan 2012 8:22pm
Maybe you should try the gear forum next time.
For a first kite they are great. I am an experienced rider and am stoked in the handling of the Argo, (mainly in the surf) I ride a 9m. My girlfriend got a 7m in Oct and now she is riding well with less than 20hrs water time after she could body drag proficiently. Chris from Griffin will be really helpful in sorting you out and he has great advice. The only thing I don't like is the below the bar depower system but Griffin offer above the bar systems which are very easy to operate. The build quality is very good on the canopy and I know of one Griffin customer who was sorted out surprisingly well when they had an issue with the leading edge. Good company, great kites.
I make no profit from Griffin and am not a pimp. Flame on.
ChopinJo
ChopinJo
QLD
8 posts
QLD, 8 posts
23 Jan 2012 7:29pm
Mate Thank you very much for your advice ..... Greatly appreciated !!!!
strapped said...

Maybe you should try the gear forum next time.
For a first kite they are great. I am an experienced rider and am stoked in the handling of the Argo, (mainly in the surf) I ride a 9m. My girlfriend got a 7m in Oct and now she is riding well with less than 20hrs water time after she could body drag proficiently. Chris from Griffin will be really helpful in sorting you out and he has great advice. The only thing I don't like is the below the bar depower system but Griffin offer above the bar systems which are very easy to operate. The build quality is very good on the canopy and I know of one Griffin customer who was sorted out surprisingly well when they had an issue with the leading edge. Good company, great kites.
I make no profit from Griffin and am not a pimp. Flame on.


ludbey
ludbey
TAS
85 posts
TAS, 85 posts
23 Jan 2012 10:03pm
Yes I agree, a very suitable kite for a beginner through to experienced, very responsive, easy to fly, great relaunch. Have only had mine for a couple of months so can't comment on durability but seems to have wear protection in all the right places and build quality seems very solid. Have had several other brands prior to the argos so find they compare exceptionally well for the price. I live in Tasmania where I couldn't test one and chris at griffin offered to send me a kite to test, he could not be more helpful.

cheers Tony
swinginginthewind
swinginginthewind
WA
281 posts
WA, 281 posts
24 Jan 2012 12:39am
+1 for the recommendation.

i have a 9m Argo 2012 model and am really happy with it

Build quality is good, bar feels great and it is one of the smoothest turning kites i have owned.

I mainly kite in waves, its ease of relaunch has saved me a couple of times

bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
24 Jan 2012 2:44pm
The griffin argo is an exellent choce for a beginner. I wish I had a kite with the argo's characteristics when I was learning.
catalaussie
catalaussie
128 posts
128 posts
24 Jan 2012 4:17pm
You will find a lot of comments about the Argo's and all Griffin Kites if you just choose "Griffin" on the Brand filter available on this forum.

Here is one more from kiteforum:

kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2372384&p=717045

Sure that the Argo is a good choice for a learner, as well as for an experienced rider. Lot of depower, great range, really stable and easy auto-relaunch (I've ride 2010 and 2011. I haven't tried 2012 yet, but it seems still better than previous years. Anxyous to try it!!!)

Just ask for a test. Even if you are a learner, you'll see easily if you are feeling comfortable with this kite in the air, how do you feel teh bar, how does it turn, etc... At the same time you'll see construction and materials by your own.
ChopinJo
ChopinJo
QLD
8 posts
QLD, 8 posts
24 Jan 2012 8:59pm
Gents thank you for your great responses .... I think that this is the kite for me !!!!
jplmain
jplmain
26 posts
26 posts
25 Jan 2012 3:02am
I have a 13.5 2011 argo. Before you purchase make sure the dealer gives you the 4m extensions like they promise on Griffin web site. I didn't get any and my dealer is clue less about them. And its been two months and still don't have any yet. I know it is a little problem but service can be a little lacking.
dafish
dafish
NSW
1654 posts
NSW, 1654 posts
25 Jan 2012 8:33am
Maybe the service problem is a US thing, but I found the service here is oz excellent. Had a minor little issue and it was sorted promptly. You should email Chris directly through this forum, I am sure you would see it within two weeks...
GriffinKites
GriffinKites
NSW
201 posts
NSW, 201 posts
25 Jan 2012 2:26pm
jplmain said...

I have a 13.5 2011 argo. Before you purchase make sure the dealer gives you the 4m extensions like they promise on Griffin web site. I didn't get any and my dealer is clue less about them. And its been two months and still don't have any yet. I know it is a little problem but service can be a little lacking.


Hi, re above you got your kite from I think USA or Europe, I will get you sorted but usually the dealer you get the kite from should fix you up, each distributor can choose what lines they order, 25m lines, 21m lines or 21 + 4m extensions.

I have been in Western Australia for a few weeks proto typing new kites, so sorry for any delays in replying to emais.

Re the Argo, it has everything beginners and wave riders want. Beginers seem to progress much better and faster on the Argos.

Super forgiving
Handels gusts smoothly
Lots of grunt and depower
hands free assisted relaunch
lots of reinforcements where you need it
4 years of refinements and improvements
unhooks and down the line as good as any other kite BUT
also boosts, kitelops and pivotal turning when you need it.
exelent upwind ability
medium aspect.
Massive wind range.

excuse the crappy voice over below,






ChopinJo
ChopinJo
QLD
8 posts
QLD, 8 posts
26 Jan 2012 8:12am
I would love to give the kite a try first but there are no dealers around where i would be kiting...
catalaussie said...

You will find a lot of comments about the Argo's and all Griffin Kites if you just choose "Griffin" on the Brand filter available on this forum.

Here is one more from kiteforum:

kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2372384&p=717045

Sure that the Argo is a good choice for a learner, as well as for an experienced rider. Lot of depower, great range, really stable and easy auto-relaunch (I've ride 2010 and 2011. I haven't tried 2012 yet, but it seems still better than previous years. Anxyous to try it!!!)

Just ask for a test. Even if you are a learner, you'll see easily if you are feeling comfortable with this kite in the air, how do you feel teh bar, how does it turn, etc... At the same time you'll see construction and materials by your own.


JY77
JY77
QLD
89 posts
QLD, 89 posts
27 Jan 2012 2:22am
Anyone bought a Griffin Argo from www.powerkitesdirect.com/??
catalaussie
catalaussie
128 posts
128 posts
30 Jan 2012 1:21pm
I'd love to be there and let you try mines, but I'm so far...

There is anybody riding Griffins near there?
ChopinJo
ChopinJo
QLD
8 posts
QLD, 8 posts
30 Jan 2012 5:40pm
I have taken the plunge and bought a 10m Argo just waiting for delivery !!!!!!
catalaussie said...

I'd love to be there and let you try mines, but I'm so far...

There is anybody riding Griffins near there?


TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
30 Jan 2012 3:56pm
JY77 said...

Anyone bought a Griffin Argo from www.powerkitesdirect.com/??

why would you
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
30 Jan 2012 8:40pm
Always heaps of them on ebay brand new for $600.
GriffinKites
GriffinKites
NSW
201 posts
NSW, 201 posts
30 Jan 2012 10:14pm
lotofwind said...

Always heaps of them on ebay brand new for $600.


There are no 2012 Argos on ebay Australia new or 2nd hand, there are 2 x 2011 Argos on ebay Aus.

The 2012 is a large improvement over the 2011s, if you try a 2011 Argo, you wont get a feel for what a 2012 Argo is like.

If you don't like the 2012 Argo, return it for a refund you cant loose!

hanikai
hanikai
QLD
7 posts
QLD, 7 posts
24 Mar 2012 7:34pm
I love my Griffin Kites.. about to get my TRX.. Yeww!!!

*Pls note* I had my old Cabrinha bar when this was shot, was waiting on a new griffin bar after I had my other one stolen.. used to ride Cabby, never looked back since switching to Griffin. Far superior flying/handling/power.

richswing
richswing
WA
724 posts
WA, 724 posts
24 Mar 2012 5:50pm
Looks like you were using a Cabrinha bar!

Did the kite want to drift towards the trees alot?
hanikai
hanikai
QLD
7 posts
QLD, 7 posts
24 Mar 2012 10:28pm
richswing said...

Looks like you were using a Cabrinha bar!


Yes, like I said in my post, above the video.. ;)


richswing said...
Did the kite want to drift towards the trees alot?


Strange question.. but, no..
gmd
gmd
WA
97 posts
gmd gmd
WA, 97 posts
26 Mar 2012 12:49pm
TurtleHunter said...

JY77 said...

Anyone bought a Griffin Argo from www.powerkitesdirect.com/??

why would you



to save $500 - simple
GreenGriff
GreenGriff
SA
137 posts
SA, 137 posts
26 Mar 2012 7:47pm
I looked at powerkitesdirect for the same reason Less $$ but after a few emails with one of the oz dealers of griffin kites they came to the party with a great price and I am very happy got the kite in a couple of days :)
bjw
bjw
QLD
3691 posts
bjw bjw
QLD, 3691 posts
26 Mar 2012 7:59pm
True - They are cheap. But check the link:
www.powerkitesdirect.com/2009-griffin-kitesurfing-kites/
What's wrong with that?

The site says 2012 kite, the link says 2009 kites and the kite says mmx (roman numerals 2010).

Before I crash the party I reckon those old 2009 2012's are actually a great kite to fly still today in 2013. They are good value for a newb. But even newbs would be confused by this link.
hanikai
hanikai
QLD
7 posts
QLD, 7 posts
16 Apr 2012 1:41pm
Griffin are not known for their marketing and advertising. In my opinion their marketing is incredibly bad. I hope it gets better because it's hurting sales.

Their kites only come in very limited color options, they don't look flashy, and there are aesthetic flaws for sure..

BUT!

They clearly spend their time developing kites, instead of selling them, and it shows. Griffin's kites are way ahead of any other brand. I was in shock, the first time I flew an Argo. I was a long time Cabrinha rider, tried everything else, always came back to Cabrinha.. You know how every year, kites seem to fly a bit better.. turn just a bit faster, launch more easily, pull harder, more depower?

Since trying Griffin, it's like I skipped a few years of kites. The Argo is where I'd imagine Cabrinha to be in 2015. No kidding.. Aesthetically, no. Performance.. you won't find one kite that even comes close to the incredible performance of a Griffin. If you don't believe me, try one.

GriffinKites
GriffinKites
NSW
201 posts
NSW, 201 posts
16 Apr 2012 2:04pm
Yes I suck at marketing, I will be working on this for 2013.

Usual kite brand formula:
Get a figure head, get a investor, pay team riders, pay $30,000 or more to be in every mag and forum per month, pay for a designer, get a marketing angle.

What I do:
Go to the beach if its windy and fly a kite, work at making it better, try new stuff, make a load of protos. Sorry I don't have the investors and marketing agencies of other brands. I will work at advertising for 2013, it would be good to get support and not be charged like a USA big brand.
Mikedobee
Mikedobee
NSW
331 posts
NSW, 331 posts
16 Apr 2012 2:39pm
Totally agree!

hanikai said...

Griffin are not known for their marketing and advertising. In my opinion their marketing is incredibly bad. I hope it gets better because it's hurting sales.

Their kites only come in very limited color options, they don't look flashy, and there are aesthetic flaws for sure..

BUT!

They clearly spend their time developing kites, instead of selling them, and it shows. Griffin's kites are way ahead of any other brand. I was in shock, the first time I flew an Argo. I was a long time Cabrinha rider, tried everything else, always came back to Cabrinha.. You know how every year, kites seem to fly a bit better.. turn just a bit faster, launch more easily, pull harder, more depower?

Since trying Griffin, it's like I skipped a few years of kites. The Argo is where I'd imagine Cabrinha to be in 2015. No kidding.. Aesthetically, no. Performance.. you won't find one kite that even comes close to the incredible performance of a Griffin. If you don't believe me, try one.




hanikai
hanikai
QLD
7 posts
QLD, 7 posts
18 Apr 2012 6:44pm
GriffinKites said...

Yes I suck at marketing, I will be working on this for 2013.

Usual kite brand formula:
Get a figure head, get a investor, pay team riders, pay $30,000 or more to be in every mag and forum per month, pay for a designer, get a marketing angle.

What I do:
Go to the beach if its windy and fly a kite, work at making it better, try new stuff, make a load of protos. Sorry I don't have the investors and marketing agencies of other brands. I will work at advertising for 2013, it would be good to get support and not be charged like a USA big brand.


...and THIS is why your kites are the best!. I can't ride 'marketing'.. thats something that benefits the company, not the rider.

Good on you for staying pure.. even if you improve your marketing, I know your main focus will always be on making great kites first and for-most.

Cant wait for my TRX!!
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