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2010 ALIBI www.newkiteboarding.com

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Created by NJPornstar > 9 months ago, 6 Jun 2009
NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
6 Jun 2009 12:45AM
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ALIBI the latest freeride kite by Australian based www.newkiteboarding.com

5 line hybrid/C kite
(will fly as a 4 line kite)

Suits -
Freeriders wanting to mix up wakestyle and old school riding.
Smaller 8m size is tuned fast and more wave orientated.

Sizes -
8m$1529, 11m$1629, 13m$1729 home delivered.

This brief quote is taken from my notes after riding the completed ALIBI proto in January 2009-
"ALIBI first impressions.
This kite is definitely more grunty, as fast with far superior stability compared to the O.S.
Found the kite to have more hang time for old school tricks and great redirection after transitions.
Good for unhooked, fly’s well out of the harness and gives more pull to the apex of the unhooked trick.
Kite glides better when the line tension is gone. Profiles remain stable and kite sticks to the sky well.
Kite drift is good for waveriding. No problems for waves. 8m is the best kite of all the sizes for this."

NOW
"These kites are my personal choices for riding. Great all round kites.
I use the 13m for learning tricks in lighter wind conditions. Makes good hang time for transitions and floaty old school tricks. Makes plenty of pull for big floaty mobes and other stuff. The kite produces apparent wind well and heads upwind far better than most other production kites.
The 11 is great all round. Works 16 to almost 30 knots on a twin tip. Predictable kite with good bar feedback. Im heavy and I feel confident getting flamboyant in stronger winds with this size. Its quick and explosive enough to generate good apparent wind, proves to be pretty good in light conditions on a surfboard.
8m is mind blowing fun from 20 to 40 knots, this small kite is spontaneous and predictable. The 2 front line options do a great job turning the kite from a mind bending lifting tool to a depowerable wave riding toy."


NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
6 Jun 2009 7:22PM
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The kite turns quick! - but pivots around the turning line.

The ALIBI gives the correct feedback to do rotations at maximum altitude.
It truely has the great old school feel.
The classic feel where you can ride fast launch big and try what ever pops into your mind at the time.
Just like the good old days with wider wind range!

richswing
WA, 724 posts
7 Jun 2009 10:28AM
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Hey Nate,

Can you give a more technical comparison to the OS kite such as AR, etc. What were your design goals etc. If you had to go four line could you relaunch like a bridled kite.

Looks very cool, looks like a higher aspect ratio than the OS. If you had to compare either against the 9m OS and/or the 7m OS and this kite for wave riding on a surfboard. I do realize the size diff in the 7 and 9m but the alibi 8 sits in the middle.

You mention the gliding factor on loose lines, is this the diff on the above.

Cheers
Rich

NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
7 Jun 2009 7:47PM
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Hi Rich,
The kite relaunches like any other kite you have tried. Just pull on the turning line and it will eventually relaunch.

If you want incredible fast relaunch and you're willing to learn something new - Try putting alittle tension on the 5th line while pulling the turning line and you will find the kite insane quick off the water. Great technique to have mastered especially if you ditch the kite between set waves.

The 8m is a 1 kite quiver for surfboard riders. It does the trick.
If you want results on your surfboard in impossibly light conditions go the 11m.

The 7m and 9m O.S. are very good wave kites. These are still current models.
The ALIBI 8m is a slightly higher aspect ratio and tuned slower. It also has slightly heavier turning than the 9m. The turning pressure is probably 2 times lighter than a bow/delta shaped kite in the same size.

Does this answer your questions?

NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
13 Jun 2009 12:11AM
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Sqwinty bashing up a little wave on an 11m.

NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
14 Jun 2009 5:55PM
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Here are 2 short clips on how to relaunch a kite.

I'm using the ALIBI.

These short instructional videos will give you a pretty good idea how versatile the ALIBI is.

BASIC 5th LINE, Number 1



BASIC 5th LINE, Number 2

MagicMike
WA, 210 posts
18 Jun 2009 4:25PM
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great looking kite, good to see a relaunch vid which actually shows what happens in real life ie, waves hitting kite in light wind
great job!

masseter
NT, 6 posts
19 Jun 2009 3:39PM
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mick91 said...

great looking kite, good to see a relaunch vid which actually shows what happens in real life ie, waves hitting kite in light wind
great job!


Agreed, kite looks good. The numbers represent wind conditions in WA?

Would it be safe to say/generalise that 5 lined kites are easier to relaunch than 4 lined kites?

NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
23 Jun 2009 2:37PM
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The wind range graphic is pretty random. Normal Western Australian seabreeze is SW 18-30

Also, there is no real argument about it.
5 lines will help with awesome fast relaunches and
helps "auto"self land your kite.




bennie
ACT, 1258 posts
23 Jun 2009 6:48PM
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masseter said...

mick91 said...

great looking kite, good to see a relaunch vid which actually shows what happens in real life ie, waves hitting kite in light wind
great job!


Agreed, kite looks good. The numbers represent wind conditions in WA?

Would it be safe to say/generalise that 5 lined kites are easier to relaunch than 4 lined kites?


No, I think they are both very easy to relaunch, but in my experience 4 line bridaled kites are slightly quicker to relaunch, and delta shapes are the easiest of all. Also pornstar is right about the 5th line being good for self landing, but now that most 4 line kites have the mini 5th line running through the bar they are just as safe and easy to self land. So in conclusion both systems are equally safe and easy to use, it really depends on a riders preference.

Lovely
QLD, 248 posts
23 Jun 2009 11:07PM
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bennie said...
No, I think they are both very easy to relaunch, but in my experience 4 line bridaled kites are slightly quicker to relaunch, and delta shapes are the easiest of all. Also pornstar is right about the 5th line being good for self landing, but now that most 4 line kites have the mini 5th line running through the bar they are just as safe and easy to self land. So in conclusion both systems are equally safe and easy to use, it really depends on a riders preference.


What happens when the bridal breaks?
Most of the time when I have seen a bridal break, the kite is nothing but dangerous. It usually always happens when the kite is fully lit too!

Isnt it sensible to have the safety attached straight to the kite.
Something that has no chance of stuffing up. Bloody bridals will stuff up sometime or another, they are unreliable.

5th line kites are heaps easier to get off the water when the kite is washed or in a real shet position. Bennie you mustnt know how to get them up quicker. Look at the video, thats heaps quick, looks fully controlled too.

peace

bennie
ACT, 1258 posts
23 Jun 2009 11:27PM
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Lovely said...

bennie said...
No, I think they are both very easy to relaunch, but in my experience 4 line bridaled kites are slightly quicker to relaunch, and delta shapes are the easiest of all. Also pornstar is right about the 5th line being good for self landing, but now that most 4 line kites have the mini 5th line running through the bar they are just as safe and easy to self land. So in conclusion both systems are equally safe and easy to use, it really depends on a riders preference.


What happens when the bridal breaks?
Most of the time when I have seen a bridal break, the kite is nothing but dangerous. It usually always happens when the kite is fully lit too!

Isnt it sensible to have the safety attached straight to the kite.
Something that has no chance of stuffing up. Bloody bridals will stuff up sometime or another, they are unreliable.

5th line kites are heaps easier to get off the water when the kite is washed or in a real shet position. Bennie you mustnt know how to get them up quicker. Look at the video, thats heaps quick, looks fully controlled too.

peace



Even if part of the bridal breaks, most likely a pulley, the kite will still fly and flag off your QR as the bridal has 3-4 connection points.I have been riding bridaled kites for years with no issues, you just have to look after your pulleys. As for the relaunch, I'm not gonna get into an argument with u, all I know is that from personal experience with both systems I can relaunch a 4 line bridaled kite quicker. Also I challenge you to find a quicker relauching kite than a delta shape.
I wasn't having a go a 5 line kites here I was just answering masseters Q

Lovely
QLD, 248 posts
24 Jun 2009 1:56AM
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That last reply I wrote was a bit harsh, I wasnt having a go at you.

I read alot of posts on this forum that are obviously shop pimps or dumbasses that believe them and they all go on about the latest rip off bridal kites.

If you recon you can launch a 4 line fast, all good.
It looks like you can rig the Alibi with just 4 lines too

djdojo
VIC, 1614 posts
24 Jun 2009 10:34AM
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Errrgggh!! It's BRIDLE (as in horse), not BRIDAL (as in wedding).

NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
27 Jun 2009 3:37PM
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Here is a kite I make with Bridles.
Its the best flying trainer kite in a 2m size and around $175 shipped to your door.




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