Starting to really get my railey's down pat. I generally go into my pop with straight arms. Is this the best technique or should i be going in with bent arms?
Also, what is an unhooked backroll called? - (can't find the name for it) I know a unhooked forward roll is called an s-bend...

peace.

Think of an s bend the cross between a front roll and a railey. (Saffer's description is correct, a laid out roll). If you are nailing a railey and can do a forward, this should be a cinch for you. Like saffer said, an unhooked roll is called just that.

KR

Nice one saffer! got my reference from here http://www.bestkiteboarding.com/Page-Trick-sequences#seventeen

It does say railey to front roll but the guy in the pics doesn't get his board anywhere near over his head.

I can front roll so will start attempting unhooked fronts and backs

Damn I wish port phillip had decent flat water spots, would make learning tricks that much easier...

on a similar vein... been trying to release my back hand during a railey, reaching towards my board... hoping to grab it... not quite getting it yet... i think its called an indy glide.

the problem i am having though is that when i only have front hand on the control bar and pull myself back towards it to prep for landing, i find i am oversteering the kite which is often doing a downloop and headed back the other way.

i cant seem to centre my front hand on the bar, as this upsets my setup for the initial pop.

any suggestions? it might just be 'persist with trying to get the front hand to the bar centre' (fingers on either side of centreline??)

maybe even just flow with it and work with the downloop and simply master the 'indy glide downloop transition' (surely its got its own name)....?

craggers said...

on a similar vein... been trying to release my back hand during a railey, reaching towards my board... hoping to grab it... not quite getting it yet... i think its called an indy glide.

the problem i am having though is that when i only have front hand on the control bar and pull myself back towards it to prep for landing, i find i am oversteering the kite which is often doing a downloop and headed back the other way.

i cant seem to centre my front hand on the bar, as this upsets my setup for the initial pop.

any suggestions? it might just be 'persist with trying to get the front hand to the bar centre' (fingers on either side of centreline??)

maybe even just flow with it and work with the downloop and simply master the 'indy glide downloop transition' (surely its got its own name)....?

Are you sure it's an indie glide? I reckon it would be mighty hard to grab like that straight after a railey. You'd have to go pretty big. You're not thinking of a nuclear (nuke) grab are you?

craggers said...

Big eeeZeee said...Are you sure it's an indie glide? I reckon it would be mighty hard to grab like that straight after a railey. You'd have to go pretty big. You're not thinking of a nuclear (nuke) grab are you?

only pics i could find of nuke grab look basically like an indy glide with a different grab position (nose instead of rail). same zhit really, i think nailing one of them would enable you to do the other variation without much effort.
your right though (my description was a bit unclear), i didnt mean to 1. railey then 2. grab/glide... what i was meaning that instead of going outstretched 2 handed (railey) on the pop, rather go 1 handed and reach for board (one handed railey? with grab? = indy glide!?!?). maybe thats it... im not going to one hand before i attempt the pop.

now all i need is some wind and i can try again.... fkn wind. fkngrrrgrrrfkfkfkgrrrr.

Indy glide has more rotation I think. You can still do a railey with a grab (hoochie glide) but grabbing with the opposite hand. Check out videos of a hoochie glide and you'll see what I mean.

Other option to look at is a kung fu. Its a railey with sending the kite higher and taking one hand off.