self launch over water.

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fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
NSW, 921 posts
4 Dec 2012 5:03pm
There is a small spot of sand next to some good flat water I would like to try to self launch from...Problem is this sand is large enough for my kite but nothing else.
I would have to run the bar and lines out over the shallow water for pretty much the whole length of the lines.
Any one do this and are there any tips...
Cheers
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1613 posts
WA, 1613 posts
4 Dec 2012 2:42pm
Your only option may be a drift launch. There are some youtube videos on that, but I haven't found one that I would say is the "safest' method...The safest method I recommend is sort of mix between the two methods shown in these two videos:

video 1:


video 2:


In video 1, the risk he's taking is obvious. He's letting the kite go free whilst the lines are still wrapped up around the bar. Not to mention he's using a board leash for his surfboard ??!!. So if the kite turns around and powers up while the lines are still wrapped around the bar, you'll find yourself in a death loop in no time and probably have to release the whole kite! This is super unsafe!


In video 2, it's a bit of a safer method, but...you run the risk of tangling your lines with the crap on the beach...seaweed in the shallow water, etc. which could also result in the kite going out of of control but at least you can probably successfully activate the safety system and recover from it without having to release the whole kite.

So...the method I recommend is to setup the kite on the beach with the lines upwind, attach yourself to the bar (leash + chicken loop) wrap the lines around the bar and secure with the elastics. Grab the kite and be careful not to wrap the bar inside the bridles as this will tangle your lines. Bring the kite down to the water in the secure position and hold it at the same time as you hold the bar. Unwind the lines from the bar and let the lines drift downwind (you're still holding the kite at this time). Once all the lines removed from the bar ends and the bar is clean, let go of the kite and let it drift downwind, lines come in tension, untwist the bar if necessary, do a pre-flight check of your lines, and water-relaunch as usual. If the lines don't look good, you'll have to self-land after pulling your safety system and start over again.

Takes time and practice, but with the right approach is very safe.
SaltySinus
SaltySinus
VIC
960 posts
VIC, 960 posts
4 Dec 2012 6:19pm
If there is enough width (along the shoreline) to set up the kite, but not depth (to the water), then theoretically, you could setup ont he sand, walk into the water and launch as per standard water re-launch.

Assumes onshore wind no seaweed, etc. plus risky. If you've a mate or a mate, I'd be inclined to set up and have them walk into the water with you to help you launch. Or find somewhere else. just me mind.

fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
NSW, 921 posts
4 Dec 2012 7:23pm
It's would be like a normal set up except the bar and lines would be in shin deep water. No current. Minimal weed but definatly upwind.
suniboy21
suniboy21
VIC
1090 posts
VIC, 1090 posts
4 Dec 2012 11:08pm
Attach lines to kite in carpark or somewhere that has 20+m room.
Wrap lines up neatley attached to kite, pump kite up on sand run out your lines and just keep an eye for twisted lines.
hypnotic
hypnotic
15 posts
15 posts
4 Dec 2012 9:28pm
This is why you dont drift launch

roundguts
roundguts
NSW
33 posts
NSW, 33 posts
5 Dec 2012 9:33am
Hey Finger are you talking about the sandbar out the front of the caravan park?
SaltySinus
SaltySinus
VIC
960 posts
VIC, 960 posts
5 Dec 2012 11:30am
Hey hypnotic,

that looks pretty damn scary... the concept of being attached to the kite with no way to de power... gives me shivers.

Was that you?
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1613 posts
WA, 1613 posts
5 Dec 2012 10:14am
hypnotic said...
This is why you dont drift launch




You mean this is why people shouldn't go on Youtube to learn about kiteboarding skills. Seek professional advice and use your brain so skills like drift launch can be perfectly safe.
hypnotic
hypnotic
15 posts
15 posts
5 Dec 2012 11:35am
Wasn't me just some random guy that clearly needs to go to some more lessons. Not just for his safety but the people around him
DrP00b
DrP00b
NSW
55 posts
NSW, 55 posts
7 Dec 2012 1:44am
If I'm last on the beach I sometimes carry my kite in. Works well. I fully rig, attach chicken loop, walk to kite, carry it in, make sure I'm not in the lines etc, let it go. It drifts down until the lines get tight and turns around and you're off.

I did once have some weed get stuck around all 4 lines which was interesting...
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