kite looping outa control

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stjepan
stjepan
NSW
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NSW, 124 posts
9 Sep 2013 11:54pm
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
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QLD, 6493 posts
10 Sep 2013 12:10am
That's why I hate delta kites. I've yet to NOT see one do that at least once a session...
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
9 Sep 2013 10:42pm
The old bridal over the wingtip trick! Looked like a pretty lazy loop though, if it doesn't release after a couple of crashes into the water flag it out. Too many twists and you'll be letting go of the whole thing.

The other one I like is a steering line wrapped around the bar end!
pearl
pearl
NSW
984 posts
NSW, 984 posts
10 Sep 2013 7:11am
Well spotted. That's about as 'out of control' as a bunch of windsurfers at a beach boys concert.
shane75
shane75
QLD
209 posts
QLD, 209 posts
10 Sep 2013 7:21am
Haha yeah been there, the worst part is trying not to swallow too much water while getting dragged through the white wash with waves constantly trying to drown you!!!
radman4
radman4
678 posts
678 posts
10 Sep 2013 5:35am
Looked pretty sedate and well controlled to me ,3 lazy loops doesn't really add up to out of control, seems like the kilter got it sorted pretty quickly.
EnglishCraig
EnglishCraig
NSW
406 posts
NSW, 406 posts
10 Sep 2013 10:33am
Anyone else think rather than filming this I would be walking down to the waters edge in case this person needs a hand?
Sibbo V3
Sibbo V3
VIC
110 posts
VIC, 110 posts
10 Sep 2013 10:41am
I remember Perth one summer I was learning on the old Fuel. I was riding along and boom, steering line snapped! LOOP LOOP LOOP LOOP FARRRRRK.

I was using 5th line to so I ripped that bad boy, then boom- ripped the 5th line attachment off my leading edge. I couldn't land the bloody thing. The looped 30 times

I just ditched the kite, swam in and went looking for my kite.
AndyEliotH
AndyEliotH
QLD
356 posts
QLD, 356 posts
10 Sep 2013 11:05am
This happened on an old Bandit 3 i had, it hurt and looped allot harder and faster than this thing
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
10 Sep 2013 11:11am
The Epic Infinity V2 I rode did that . . . tip tangle, loop, loop, loop, release, loop, WTF!!!, loop, RRRRRRRRIP from TE to LE. That was a happy day, telling the owner :(
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
10 Sep 2013 9:39am
you normally get that 1 sec in between loops, where it hits the water or the beach, when you can flick the quick release and flag the kite
imho its best to hit the safety by the second or third loop, after that things start to speed up
Freddofrog
Freddofrog
WA
522 posts
WA, 522 posts
10 Sep 2013 9:58am
That's hardly looping out of control. I've had much worse.

They should probably teach the causes of kite looping during lessons when it's under controlled situations. First time it happened to me it was like, what the hell is going on.
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
10 Sep 2013 12:48pm
The old C kites used to turn on their wing tips and looping was uncommon because they'd crash pretty early and not self launch. Modern kites tend to pivit around their centre making looping easier. Short bridles help minimise the tip trapping but it can still happen and be very scary. It's up to the manufacturers to come up with a solution.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
10 Sep 2013 12:51pm
KIT33R said..

The old C kites used to turn on their wing tips and looping was uncommon because they'd crash pretty early and not self launch. Modern kites tend to pivit around their centre making looping easier. Short bridles help minimise the tip trapping but it can still happen and be very scary. It's up to the manufacturers to come up with a solution.


But that one or two loops would throw you twice as far and twice as fast.
Like when the flapping wing tip would twist the steering line while setting up
KiteDesigner
KiteDesigner
NSW
169 posts
NSW, 169 posts
10 Sep 2013 3:17pm
This is more out of control, what "KIT33R" said is about right. I have seen 2013 high aspect kites bow tie in mid air regardless of bridle, lack of pressure.

Kite Knife is a great idea, leash release is a good idea and harness release is a good idea.



KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
10 Sep 2013 4:24pm
TurtleHunter said..
KIT33R said..



The old C kites used to turn on their wing tips and looping was uncommon because they'd crash pretty early and not self launch. Modern kites tend to pivit around their centre making looping easier. Short bridles help minimise the tip trapping but it can still happen and be very scary. It's up to the manufacturers to come up with a solution.


But that one or two loops would throw you twice as far and twice as fast.

Like when the flapping wing tip would twist the steering line while setting up


Can't argue with this. I've been kiting since 2002. My point being is that with all the fantastic inovations we have today looping is still a problem.
Cluffy
Cluffy
NSW
422 posts
NSW, 422 posts
11 Sep 2013 7:43pm
pearl said..

Well spotted. That's about as 'out of control' as a bunch of windsurfers at a beach boys concert.


I resemble that remark.
JimJones
JimJones
QLD
237 posts
QLD, 237 posts
15 Sep 2013 2:51pm
Poida said..

you normally get that 1 sec in between loops, where it hits the water or the beach, when you can flick the quick release and flag the kite
imho its best to hit the safety by the second or third loop, after that things start to speed up


This is the thing to me, punching out early, not hanging on hoping it might improve. After lots of loops the release might not work. Its only a kite, pull the safety. You pay for the safety, so use it! Once it starts looping like that theres no way to recover it (that I know). I agree this hazard should be taught in lessons.
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