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laurie
laurie
NSW
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laurie laurie
NSW, 3889 posts
11 Nov 2013 1:59pm
Devastation in Philippines...








Pics & story at

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2496954/Starvation-fear-land-laid-waste-200mph-typhoon-killed-10-000-Dazed-survivors-scour-streets-food-mobs-attack-aid-trucks-Philippines.html

www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-10/in-pictures3a-super-typhoon-haiyan/5081386



kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
kiteboy dave kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
11 Nov 2013 1:33pm
Pretty Devastating. 10,000 dead, 4 million affected. Canadian government is matching it's citizen'd donations dollar for dollar. Our government, meanwhile, has offered a whopping $400,000, or less than 6 month's worth of the former Opposition Leader's personal expense claims. Let's hope they're shamed into upping the assistance a bit.

Related clickbait headline from Fairfax "Kitesurfers caught in typhoon". Actual story: they're safe, they hunkered down in the hills.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/queensland-men-on-kite-surfing-holiday-caught-in-typhoon-haiyan-20131111-2xamo.html

mattkennedy
mattkennedy
QLD
287 posts
mattkennedy mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
11 Nov 2013 1:47pm
Dont whinge about our government not doing enough. We have just had horrible bush fires and cyclone season is coming up.
Charity begins at home.
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
kiteboy dave kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
11 Nov 2013 3:19pm
mattkennedy said..

Dont whinge about our government not doing enough. We have just had horrible bush fires and cyclone season is coming up.
Charity begins at home.


Let's be clear, what you're actually saying is "Charity ends at home".

The government has just cut 4.5 Billion dollars from the foreign aid budget. Are you really too cheap want to re-allocate some of that savings, even a few paltry million, to the survivors of this crisis?

mattkennedy
mattkennedy
QLD
287 posts
mattkennedy mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
11 Nov 2013 3:42pm
Dont try and twist my words. What I am saying is dont you go sooking because we havent done enough, we hvae our own problems to deal with and our own people to help first. Simple as that
mattkennedy
mattkennedy
QLD
287 posts
mattkennedy mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
11 Nov 2013 3:43pm
End of conversation. This is a kiteboarding forum.
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
kiteboy dave kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
11 Nov 2013 4:12pm
mattkennedy said..

End of conversation. This is a kiteboarding forum.


Are you new around here? Conversations over because you say so? LOL. I'd love it if things worked like that.

This is a thread about the Typhoon, and discussion of our response to the Typhoon is relevant. And important. And will continue.
mattkennedy
mattkennedy
QLD
287 posts
mattkennedy mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
11 Nov 2013 4:14pm
No conversation is over because this is a kiteboarding forum. If you want to preach your views go do it elsewhere
mattkennedy
mattkennedy
QLD
287 posts
mattkennedy mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
11 Nov 2013 4:17pm
Oh and dave theres no need to quote what I say before you respond, its already there for all to see
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
kiteboy dave kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
11 Nov 2013 4:24pm
mattkennedy said..

No conversation is over because this is a kiteboarding forum. If you want to preach your views go do it elsewhere


How do you feel about OP starting the thread in the kiteboarding forum?
mattkennedy
mattkennedy
QLD
287 posts
mattkennedy mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
11 Nov 2013 4:28pm
Im not going to waste my time on you
default
default
WA
1255 posts
default default
WA, 1255 posts
11 Nov 2013 2:43pm
dave, please leave your labor bias political rant fin the "foil hat", sorry, "heavy weather" section
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
kiteboy dave kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
11 Nov 2013 4:47pm
After initially pledging $400,000 for the devastated Philippines, Foreign Minister Julie Bishop pledged announced aid of $10 million.

That is somewhat more appropriate.
mattkennedy
mattkennedy
QLD
287 posts
mattkennedy mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
11 Nov 2013 4:53pm
Meanwhile there are still houses in brisbane affected from the floods, towns in north qld levelled by cyclones, places in victoria and new south wales burnt from bushfire and are still needing help by do gooders like quoteboy dave want more money to be spent overseas. Its horrible what happened over there but we need our stuff fixed first
gokid
gokid
QLD
491 posts
gokid gokid
QLD, 491 posts
11 Nov 2013 5:27pm
My best kiting mate is in the Philippines ,right up north in Saud Beach Pudapud,he is OK,

but his girlfriend went back to Tacloban 14 days ago too visit her family for 2 weeks,she was with 10 family members in a small concrete building with a tin roof the last time he talked to her just as the wind was going mental

he has not heard from her since the typhoon hit

there is still no electricity or phone signal in Tacolban

Hope she and her family are OK

Phoney
Phoney
NSW
608 posts
Phoney Phoney
NSW, 608 posts
11 Nov 2013 6:27pm
Australians who lose their homes in fires, floods and cyclones are (should be) covered by insurance and for the most part are looked after pretty damn well by our government.

There is simply NO comparison with a family in the Philippines living on $1 or $2 a day who lost their tin shack of a home, all of their meager possessions, their livelihood, have no food or fresh water or medical care and have virtually nobody there to help them. Have some compassion!
Willstar
Willstar
VIC
32 posts
Willstar Willstar
VIC, 32 posts
11 Nov 2013 7:55pm
Mattkenedy, do you have aksa insurance? Or would you expect the the government to bail you out in the case of a freak accident?
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
kiteboy dave kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
11 Nov 2013 7:25pm
The foreign charity vs domestic charity argument is largely irrelevant anyway. It comes from different bucket and one doesn't impact the other.

www.theage.com.au/world/asia/australian-aid-sets-the-standard-oxfam-20050106-gdzbcn.html

To put the original 400k figure into perspective, John Howard pledged 1 billion dollars in aid after the tsunami.

The reality is that we are very close to, if not, the richest country in the world right now. We can afford to help and we should.
mattkennedy
mattkennedy
QLD
287 posts
mattkennedy mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
11 Nov 2013 7:29pm
Yeah I do willstar and this is nothing about that. Im saying its crap that we have people likekiteboydave who whinge when we dont do enough for other cocountries yet ours isnt looked after that well is it.
Like I said this is a kiteboarding forum not a place for people like you or him to force your political views down everyones throat
Kozzie
Kozzie
QLD
1451 posts
Kozzie Kozzie
QLD, 1451 posts
11 Nov 2013 7:51pm
is boracay and cuyu okay?!
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
kiteboy dave kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
11 Nov 2013 8:26pm
mattkennedy said..
its crap
people likekiteboydave who whinge
Dont whinge
dont you go sooking
No conversation is over (translation: this conversation is over)
preach your views go do it elsewhere
do gooders like quoteboy dave
we need our stuff fixed first
Im saying its crap
force ..down everyones throat


Considering I've brought only calm, rational discussion (except 1 slightly political line), you're looking a little over-emotional and.. well... not really a very nice human being.

mattkennedy
mattkennedy
QLD
287 posts
mattkennedy mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
11 Nov 2013 8:38pm
Your very good at copy and pasting things are already there for all to see.
gokid
gokid
QLD
491 posts
gokid gokid
QLD, 491 posts
11 Nov 2013 9:15pm
Kozzie said..

is boracay and cuyu okay?!


I have heard that Boracay is OK,I have friends on Cuyo but have not heard anything from there yet
stabber
stabber
NSW
1114 posts
stabber stabber
NSW, 1114 posts
11 Nov 2013 10:24pm
we gave a billion to Indo and they bombed the flickennnkk outa our Aussie tourists.(twice).....let 'em save themselves I say.
They hate us whether we do or don't help.
Phoney
Phoney
NSW
608 posts
Phoney Phoney
NSW, 608 posts
11 Nov 2013 10:31pm
The Indo government didnt bomb Aussie tourists, terrorists did. The Indo government (or rather the judiciary) executed them, and all of that took place long before the tsunami. F*ck me there's some ignorant morons on here, I thought kiters were a better bunch than this.
arloj
arloj
WA
237 posts
arloj arloj
WA, 237 posts
11 Nov 2013 7:53pm
stabber said...
we gave a billion to Indo and they bombed the flickennnkk outa our Aussie tourists.(twice).....let 'em save themselves I say.
They hate us whether we do or don't help.


How the **** has that got anything to with Philippines you ignorant **** let alone being completely incorrect.

My mum was from tacloban - we've got in contact with the family via a Red Cross satellite phone there all safe.

All il say stab is that I bet you would be one of these guys who has the "**** off were full" sticker on the back of your car. Your lucky this is over the Internet and not in person.

cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
cauncy cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
11 Nov 2013 9:11pm
stabber said..

we gave a billion to Indo and they bombed the flickennnkk outa our Aussie tourists.(twice).....let 'em save themselves I say.
They hate us whether we do or don't help.


if i had knob heads pissing up against my house every night of the week id wanna blow them up
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
WA
1397 posts
Dave Whettingsteel Dave Whettingsteel
WA, 1397 posts
11 Nov 2013 9:14pm
Good to hear your Mums family are safe Arloj, the damage in Tacloban looked absolutely horrendous. You must be pretty relieved.
It's going to be a long way back for those communities.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
cauncy cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
11 Nov 2013 9:29pm
it always amazes me how those who least deseve or can handle natural disasters are punished, this is the 21st typhoon this year, its amazing how they keep getting back up , aussie spirit ( b88888cks) just my personal oppinion
arloj
arloj
WA
237 posts
arloj arloj
WA, 237 posts
11 Nov 2013 11:17pm
Dave Whettingsteel said...
Good to hear your Mums family are safe Arloj, the damage in Tacloban looked absolutely horrendous. You must be pretty relieved.
It's going to be a long way back for those communities.


Thanks mate, the whole city is leveled pretty much. Disease is what's everyone concerned about now
stabber
stabber
NSW
1114 posts
stabber stabber
NSW, 1114 posts
12 Nov 2013 9:34am
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