just a general rant...

Riders practicing actual tricks get to ride the most upwind point of the beach. Given plenty of room to drop the kite if need be.

Riders just cruising around on their sunday stroll holding their ground can kite at the middle to bottom end of the beach.

I'm sick of having to wait and choose times to try tricks on a congested beach where EVERYONE wants to kite the most upwind point of the beach when their holding their ground perfectly .

end rant. flame on. red thumb.

the sunday strollers are out in force!

Hmmm. If you're that much better a kiter than the lawn mowers then surely you'll have the speed, manoeuverability and timing to do your tricks in the gaps? If there's not an established circuit then you have to take your chances when you can.

It seems to me that just as experienced kiters can easily spot and stay clear of beginners, the average lawn mower can spot, and will stay somewhat clear of, a rider who is regularly going for stuff. I'm not saying you've therefore got a license to throw down without regard for others, but that you can let others know through your actions that your trajectory may vary from theirs quite radically.

GalahOnTheBay said...

Big eeeZeee said...

Riders practicing actual tricks get to ride the most upwind point of the beach. Given plenty of room to drop the kite if need be.

Riders just cruising around on their sunday stroll holding their ground can kite at the middle to bottom end of the beach.

Ok I will bite.

Given the above, won't the "upwind" kiters be dropping their kites on the middle ground kiters?

If I'm in a cruising kind of mind I prefer the kiters busting big to be downwind of me, so they don't hit me but more importantly so I can watch and admire the carnage skills

You make a valid point Galah. It's just that theres not a massive amount of room down at brighton beach vic. It's not tiny, but it's not that big either.

My general point is not that the "best" get to ride upwind. It's coming from a safety and general convenience point of view. If you're just chilling out and cruising and holding you're ground, why not move downwind/upwind (further away) from those that are dropping the kite/bar. Surely that's better than everyone congested at the top of the beach?


dojo - Just like other's I look for the gaps and most the time I won't do it anywhere near kiters nearby. It just gets annoying, when you see the same person riding in and out, in and out, where most the guys throw their tricks.

Surely i make somewhat of a valid point. Guys throw tricks at the top of the beach for a reason. Guys that cruise up and down at the same spot do so for what reason?

Let's not get into the whole racism thing people. Just sharing an opinion. Making some conversation. Giving you something to read. Having my daily cry/whinge. That is all

What's the beach got to do with it? You launch and land from the beach. You kite on the water.

The sea is big. Find a bit of sea with no people in the way and go nuts. Do any trick you want.

Gorgo, if he does his tricks too far out where there are no people, no one will see him do the trick! Dah!

Big eeeZeee said...
Surely i make somewhat of a valid point. Guys throw tricks at the top of the beach for a reason. Guys that cruise up and down at the same spot do so for what reason?

Ummmmmm, for the same reason you're doing tricks, because that's how they like to ride and what gives them enjoyment. Just because you hold the opinion that you are having more fun or are more entitled to any given section of the beach doesn't necessarily make it true.

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If you are proficient enough to ride upwind and throw down some tricks than you can go wherever you want. Upwind, downwind, out a ways. Just go where there is some room.

the gibbo said...

Big eeeZeee said...

just a general rant...

Riders practicing actual tricks get to ride the most upwind point of the beach. Given plenty of room to drop the kite if need be.

Riders just cruising around on their sunday stroll holding their ground can kite at the middle to bottom end of the beach.

I'm sick of having to wait and choose times to try tricks on a congested beach where EVERYONE wants to kite the most upwind point of the beach when their holding their ground perfectly .

end rant. flame on. red thumb.

gees lifes tuff for us here in Aus
when i turn my tap on at home and cool clean water comes out i think to myself i wish it was faster

I just wish we could get cool water out of a tap

simple solution ............kite at Hampton

1) its only 2min away ( you could easily walk )
2) when there are 20 out at brighton there may be 1 or 2 at Hampton
3) the beaches face almost the same directions (northerly not so good hampton )
4) hampton has flat water near the sea wall

The only reason to kite at Brighton is that ther are 20 other kiters and it is dubbed "kite beach"


or kite at Ricketts on these days ......plenty of flat water, cleaner wind ( there is a reason all the poleys are there ), waves on the bombies. .............................just be careful of the rocks.....its not for beginners

harry potter said...

simple solution ............kite at Hampton

1) its only 2min away ( you could easily walk )
2) when there are 20 out at brighton there may be 1 or 2 at Hampton
3) the beaches face almost the same directions (northerly not so good hampton )
4) hampton has flat water near the sea wall

The only reason to kite at Brighton is that ther are 20 other kiters and it is dubbed "kite beach"


or kite at Ricketts on these days ......plenty of flat water, cleaner wind ( there is a reason all the poleys are there ), waves on the bombies. .............................just be careful of the rocks.....its not for beginners

I'll give hampton another shot but the I don't reckon the wind is as good there compared to brighton. Have kited ricketts before and it's full of reef! no thanks!

Gorgo said...

harry potter said...

simple solution ............kite at Hampton

....

Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! Only kooks kite at Hampton.

All they do is mow the lawn and cut people off on the inside.

There is a huge wind shadow from the yacht club and the hill behind. If you get too close it is insanely gusty. If you drop your kite you will never relaunch it.

You have to dodge a net of fishing lines near the breakwater and the groynes. The fishers cast sinkers at kites.

The life saving club and the triathlon clubs train there and if you go anywhere near them they report you to the police.

The beach is really narrow so if you can't self-launch and land and nobody will help you.

Hampton is much much much worse than Brighton. If you value your life you will not kite at Hampton.

Have you even read the thread and attempted to understand my point of view?

Why kite on top of each other at brighton? Why not kite in such a way where everyone benefits - that is all.

Now lets turn this thread into some name calling and carrying on and we'll lock it up ey

Gorgo said...

harry potter said...

simple solution ............kite at Hampton

....

Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! Only kooks kite at Hampton.

All they do is mow the lawn and cut people off on the inside.

So its no different to Brighton then !

Sorry, I will stop sending them down your way... shall I

"Errrm. Yes I did. No I don't. You want a special rule so that everybody gets out of your bit of beach so you can do a trick.

I reckon the sea is big and there's heaps of room to do all the tricks you want ... out in the sea away from everybody else. It works for me and everybody else on the water.

I get a little bit frustrated when somebody stops me bashing a wave on the inside, but I have no right to bash waves on the inside. I just go out and come back when the break is empty or ride up the coast to where the really good waves are and I can have them all to myself.

I deliberately avoid St Kilda and Brighton because there are too many people with bad attitudes riding there." -gorgo

I don't even want a special rule. I've been kiting there and have become frustrated that everyone wants to ride up the the top. If you're not looking for waves, not trying a trick and think you can keep your kite in the air and cruise around for a good few hours. Why not move down wind a little? It'll free up that stretch of water. You'll still get to enjoy your kite but you'll be a bit more down wind.

I'm not really looking to try and 'segregate the beach' people!!! Just wanted to share my opinion and possibly same opinion of many other riders out there that are looking to really progress their riding...

Hey big eezeeee, I sypathise the problem is all the lawn mowers are riding up to the top ( upwind ) because they see everyone else doing it and think thats where they should turn.
It happens at most beaches where there are a lot of kiters, even the pond at St Kilda which is supposed to be a designated advanced area gets plenty of lawn mowers and noobs who stand with their kites at 12 .......the noob reaction is " there are kiters out, that looks like the spot...... I'll kite there "

Im afraid the solution is to either a) find a few secret spots
b) kite where no one else wants to..ie Ricketts
c) shout and scream abuse at the perpetrator(s)

Weekends are easy you just have to drive a bit, but within 1-1.5hours drive in almost any wind direction you can find either perfect flat water or waves ( what ever your preference ) and not another kiter in sight.

After work sessions ........ find a secret spot, put up with the reef or tolerate the noobs.

Do you want flat water ? or a few peaky bay waves ?

harry potter said...

Hey big eezeeee, I sypathise the problem is all the lawn mowers are riding up to the top ( upwind ) because they see everyone else doing it and think thats where they should turn.
It happens at most beaches where there are a lot of kiters, even the pond at St Kilda which is supposed to be a designated advanced area gets plenty of lawn mowers and noobs who stand with their kites at 12 .......the noob reaction is " there are kiters out, that looks like the spot...... I'll kite there "

Im afraid the solution is to either a) find a few secret spots
b) kite where no one else wants to..ie Ricketts
c) shout and scream abuse at the perpetrator(s)

Weekends are easy you just have to drive a bit, but within 1-1.5hours drive in almost any wind direction you can find either perfect flat water or waves ( what ever your preference ) and not another kiter in sight.

After work sessions ........ find a secret spot, put up with the reef or tolerate the noobs.

Do you want flat water ? or a few peaky bay waves ?

Looking for flat water and will drive anywhere if need be! I've got a bet on that i'll be able to raily to handle-pass by the end of the year