I've heard it's common enough in course racing, but I'm looking at it for an Ozone Reo with a sliding harness spreader (rope).

I don't unhook, so the CL is redundant, and removing it simplifies the setup. For QR, several folks in the know say this one's the go:-

http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2773-0202040302000000-IM.html

(the full URL won't link - so you have to copy/paste - sorry, but here's a couple of pics lifted off this thread
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Overview-of-safety-systems/?page=2)









The configuration I have in mind replaces the CL & CL line with cord from the clamcleat to the Wichard QR shackle (bowline or larks head?), which clips to a pulley or slider on the spreader rope. Simple and direct.

Could someone who's done this pls comment, advise, criticise and/or, preferably, post a pic of the bar mod?

cheers
denis

Yes i did it to my lines a couple of weeks ago as i hadn't changed the depower length in ages.

Simple and light, i like it

I use a custom rope slider & use an Ozone bar on my Reo,s - I just hook the chicken loop straight on to the rope, seems pretty simple to me......would the Wichard QR be as reliable in releasing under load as your Megatron QR if the sh1t hit the fan?

Also how would you flag to safety if needed, maybe just run without it?

Anyone have some pics of their mod, I wouldn't mind having a go at it myself - if its worth it.

dogfish said..

I've heard it's common enough in course racing, but I'm looking at it for an Ozone Reo with a sliding harness spreader (rope).

I don't unhook, so the CL is redundant, and removing it simplifies the setup. For QR, several folks in the know say this one's the go:-

http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2773-0202040302000000-IM.html

(the full URL won't link - so you have to copy/paste - sorry, but here's a couple of pics lifted off this thread
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Overview-of-safety-systems/?page=2)









The configuration I have in mind replaces the CL & CL line with cord from the clamcleat to the Wichard QR shackle (bowline or larks head?), which clips to a pulley or slider on the spreader rope. Simple and direct.

Could someone who's done this pls comment, advise, criticise and/or, preferably, post a pic of the bar mod?

cheers
denis

I use the 70mm Witchard and modified pull cord and attach it to the bar hook as shown with a shackle.

Be careful with pull cord and length. Too long and rotating bar can get cord wound up and may fire off, too short and one cant find it when you need it, and with balls attached are subject to accidental release also. This setup has worked for me for years and never had it release accidentally.






http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2673-0202040301000000-IM.html

Excuse my curiosity, I am just trying to understand if it is a better system and worth the effort.

How does that attach, (a) to your chicken loop, or (b) to your centre line (with Chicken Loop removed)?

Is this meant to be a second safety release, or to replace the original safety system/chicken loop?

If it is attached directly to the "Bight" in your centrelines (where the Chicken Loop was) does it then wear out centre line in that one spot?
I see in the above photo a definite Vee in the arrangement and a pinch point for wear.

I don't see the point of shackling the WICHARD to the spreader bar, (in the above pic) unless you have it on a slider (Dyna Bar)?
(not possible to unhook, and locked to a central point)
or is it just designed to reduce the distance of the Throw on the de-power. Can somebody explain the reasoning behind the pictured system?

All of the above questions bring me to the last question "If it aint broke why fix it?" but you can take that as a comment.

Biggest problem I see - won't release unless it's under load.

dogfish said..

I've heard it's common enough in course racing, but I'm looking at it for an Ozone Reo with a sliding harness spreader (rope).

I don't unhook, so the CL is redundant, and removing it simplifies the setup. For QR, several folks in the know say this one's the go:-

http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2773-0202040302000000-IM.html

(the full URL won't link - so you have to copy/paste - sorry, but here's a couple of pics lifted off this thread
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Overview-of-safety-systems/?page=2)









The configuration I have in mind replaces the CL & CL line with cord from the clamcleat to the Wichard QR shackle (bowline or larks head?), which clips to a pulley or slider on the spreader rope. Simple and direct.

Could someone who's done this pls comment, advise, criticise and/or, preferably, post a pic of the bar mod?

cheers
denis

I use the 70mm Witchard and modified pull cord and attach it to the bar hook as shown with a shackle.

Be careful with pull cord and length. Too long and rotating bar can get cord wound up and may fire off, too short and one cant find it when you need it, and with balls attached are subject to accidental release also. This setup has worked for me for years and never had it release accidentally.






http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2673-0202040301000000-IM.html

I have the same set-up it gives you a bit more confidence when getting smashed it the waves .

Please excuse my ignorance but I can not understand how this set up is any better than using a regular set up, like chicken loop to fixed spreader bar.?

jeff2 said..

jetstream said..

dogfish said..

I've heard it's common enough in course racing, but I'm looking at it for an Ozone Reo with a sliding harness spreader (rope).

I don't unhook, so the CL is redundant, and removing it simplifies the setup. For QR, several folks in the know say this one's the go:-

http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2773-0202040302000000-IM.html

(the full URL won't link - so you have to copy/paste - sorry, but here's a couple of pics lifted off this thread
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Overview-of-safety-systems/?page=2)









The configuration I have in mind replaces the CL & CL line with cord from the clamcleat to the Wichard QR shackle (bowline or larks head?), which clips to a pulley or slider on the spreader rope. Simple and direct.

Could someone who's done this pls comment, advise, criticise and/or, preferably, post a pic of the bar mod?

cheers
denis

I use the 70mm Witchard and modified pull cord and attach it to the bar hook as shown with a shackle.

Be careful with pull cord and length. Too long and rotating bar can get cord wound up and may fire off, too short and one cant find it when you need it, and with balls attached are subject to accidental release also. This setup has worked for me for years and never had it release accidentally.






http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2673-0202040301000000-IM.html

I have the same set-up it gives you a bit more confidence when getting smashed it the waves .

I may be looking at this set up wrong but it looks like a lot of excess weight for little benefit to me - I thought the idea of the Witchard was to replace the Chicken Loop?.

jetstream said..

dogfish said..

I've heard it's common enough in course racing, but I'm looking at it for an Ozone Reo with a sliding harness spreader (rope).

I don't unhook, so the CL is redundant, and removing it simplifies the setup. For QR, several folks in the know say this one's the go:-

http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2773-0202040302000000-IM.html

(the full URL won't link - so you have to copy/paste - sorry, but here's a couple of pics lifted off this thread
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Overview-of-safety-systems/?page=2)









The configuration I have in mind replaces the CL & CL line with cord from the clamcleat to the Wichard QR shackle (bowline or larks head?), which clips to a pulley or slider on the spreader rope. Simple and direct.

Could someone who's done this pls comment, advise, criticise and/or, preferably, post a pic of the bar mod?

cheers
denis

I use the 70mm Witchard and modified pull cord and attach it to the bar hook as shown with a shackle.

Be careful with pull cord and length. Too long and rotating bar can get cord wound up and may fire off, too short and one cant find it when you need it, and with balls attached are subject to accidental release also. This setup has worked for me for years and never had it release accidentally.






http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2673-0202040301000000-IM.html

jetstream said..

dogfish said..

I've heard it's common enough in course racing, but I'm looking at it for an Ozone Reo with a sliding harness spreader (rope).

I don't unhook, so the CL is redundant, and removing it simplifies the setup. For QR, several folks in the know say this one's the go:-

http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2773-0202040302000000-IM.html

(the full URL won't link - so you have to copy/paste - sorry, but here's a couple of pics lifted off this thread
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Overview-of-safety-systems/?page=2)









The configuration I have in mind replaces the CL & CL line with cord from the clamcleat to the Wichard QR shackle (bowline or larks head?), which clips to a pulley or slider on the spreader rope. Simple and direct.

Could someone who's done this pls comment, advise, criticise and/or, preferably, post a pic of the bar mod?

cheers
denis

I use the 70mm Witchard and modified pull cord and attach it to the bar hook as shown with a shackle.

Be careful with pull cord and length. Too long and rotating bar can get cord wound up and may fire off, too short and one cant find it when you need it, and with balls attached are subject to accidental release also. This setup has worked for me for years and never had it release accidentally.






http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2673-0202040301000000-IM.html

The Wichard shown in picture is the 80mm and not the 70mm

http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A|WICHARD|2674-0202040301000000-IM.html

The other snap hooks jam under load, be careful.