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Kite Mag
Kite Mag
VIC
154 posts
VIC, 154 posts
27 Aug 2008 7:43pm
Hey kiteboarders,
I'm investigating the possibility of a new print kite magazine.
I'm an old fashioned newspaper editor by day and am considering throwing all my money, time and effort into a new publication just for you.
It's a gamble, there's no doubt...
Rather than focussing on tricks and younger riders, this mag will be targetted to dare i say ``older'' kiters.
What do you think??
cheers
George




jumpindave
jumpindave
WA
124 posts
WA, 124 posts
27 Aug 2008 6:02pm
Sounds bloody fantastic George!!! Finally something for us old fellas, i will send you a couple of pics when u get it up and running. Maybe you could have a highest jump section or reviews on sunhats, sunnys, gloves, pink zinc and the like, something i feel is missing from these mags targeted at punks.
Dave.
hood rat
hood rat
QLD
56 posts
QLD, 56 posts
27 Aug 2008 8:19pm
noooo bingoooo
Ben De Jonge
Ben De Jonge
WA
819 posts
WA, 819 posts
27 Aug 2008 6:19pm
Isn't that what Kite World already does? And does bloody well.
Hunter S
Hunter S
WA
516 posts
WA, 516 posts
27 Aug 2008 6:29pm
I suggest you track down the editors of Surfing World and have a chat about the perils of marketing to the older generation in a world focused on youf
brucex
brucex
QLD
701 posts
QLD, 701 posts
27 Aug 2008 8:30pm
A new mag !!!!!!

hmmm maybe you should do some research.
Some facts to consider
The Aus kite market is tiny - so you already have a limiited audience
Thes advent of online mags which are free also means that you actual market is shrinking because kiters wont necessarily buy your mag.
I think the the ratio of kiters to kiters who buy the existing mag is pretty low to start with.
Will the supplers want to throw some money at another mag and not get any more exposure...there are only about 40 kite realated businesses in Australia.

plus the KBM has just had a face lift - new editor, new graphic layout - so its likely to be bigger and better - therefore don't assume you are competing against the old mag.....

In saying that - if you are interested in persueing your creativity and expression about a sport you love - go for it - just don't expect to make any money.

Brucex
sckitesurf
sckitesurf
QLD
191 posts
QLD, 191 posts
27 Aug 2008 8:37pm
It sounds good. Maybe it would have articles on local riders & not just the pro or sponsored riders, you may want to ask the local shops to get pics & blogs so every one will want to buy it, for they might be in it, it sounds better than just old riders or an Australian mag that might as well be a slingslut mag. Maybe cheap adds for shops & a commision discount for shops that provide articles on shop riders & the local riders as to where to kite & what to see or look out for.
I like that idea, but I would, because it's my idea.
I know I would buy it , for some thing different.
stamp
stamp
QLD
2797 posts
QLD, 2797 posts
27 Aug 2008 8:47pm
aren't magazines and dvds supposed to show riders progressing the sport, pushing the boundaries?? most readers may not ever get to that level, but they want to see what is possible. the novelty of seeing photos of the same tricks you can watch anyone do down at your local might wear off after the first couple of issues.

then again you'd only have to print your issues on time and you would already be ahead of kbm.
wdric
wdric
NSW
1625 posts
NSW, 1625 posts
27 Aug 2008 11:13pm
Well I am 42 and have only bought one magazine in the last 12 months and that was a trader magazine to look for something for work

There is just so much to keep us entertained on the net these days that being the tight ass I am I just don't need to buy a mag.

As brucx says do your research to find out if you can find enough business to run adds in the mag to make it profitable.

Mixing business with pleasure can be a geat thing if it is a profitable industry, but if it ain't you may find your self working long hours to pay the bills and don't actually have time to do the things you enjoy with your mates anymore.

good luck with the decision
kitepilotoz
kitepilotoz
QLD
181 posts
QLD, 181 posts
27 Aug 2008 11:29pm
Try online mag first and guage the response
then ask the audience what they want???
Then try and make everyone happy.
Good luck!!
There should always be room for new ideas!
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
27 Aug 2008 11:41pm
Ben De Jonge said...

Isn't that what Kite World already does? And does bloody well.


kite world sucks
vishy
vishy
WA
451 posts
WA, 451 posts
27 Aug 2008 11:14pm
theDoctor said...

Ben De Jonge said...

Isn't that what Kite World already does? And does bloody well.


kite world sucks


Any reasons why?

Personally I think it is pretty solid and the only one that warrants being bought as most of the other ones are full of ads or very basic articles that can be read in the newsagency without haveing to be bought. I find Kitewould also tends to be a lote fatter than most other kite mags, but hey whatever floats your boat.

Bait taken
Matt
hood rat
hood rat
QLD
56 posts
QLD, 56 posts
28 Aug 2008 9:02am




I find Kitewould also tends to be a lote fatter than most other kite mags



because its full of gay **** and adds.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
28 Aug 2008 9:26am
kitepilotoz said...

Try online mag first and guage the response
then ask the audience what they want???
Then try and make everyone happy.
Good luck!!
There should always be room for new ideas!


good idea
walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
28 Aug 2008 9:48am
I think the big issue is actually getting the average Joe newsagency or servo to stock your magazine.

Everytime I'm in a newsagency I'll have a quick browse for a kite mag, but there is never one there.

If you could get all the servos, newsagencies and bookstores near kiting locations to stock your mag, you would sh!t it in.

And do local articles and secret spots around Oz. The locals will hate you for giving away their secret locations, but I reckon it would pay off.

And do a big air section every month!

Throw in some fishing, diving or surfing for the no wind days and I reckon you will have yourself a mag!
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
28 Aug 2008 11:04am
The more kite mags the better mate, but as others have mentioned, there are some pretty good online mags out there now, so yours would have to be something pretty special to compete, and I think you would struggle to make a living out of it.
TOAD
TOAD
NSW
305 posts
NSW, 305 posts
28 Aug 2008 1:10pm
Sounds good to me , I'd definatly buy it ... But then I am 45 .... (old bastard)
Kite Mag
Kite Mag
VIC
154 posts
VIC, 154 posts
28 Aug 2008 2:51pm
Thanks for the responses which are all great.
There is a lot to consider and they will go along way in helping me in my research.
Cost and the net are by far the biggest hurdles to consider and many of you made strong points on those two matters.
The net does go hand in hand with print media, provided it offers something different to what is already out there.
If you do have interesting story ideas i would like to hear about them.
At the moment I'm trying to track down the country's oldest kitesurfer.
Is there anyone you would like to nominate?
If you know him or her, please send an email to georgeiero@gmail.com.
thanks again for your responses and i will keep you posted about the progress of this little idea.
Bring on the wind, i'm so over winter!

stamp
stamp
QLD
2797 posts
QLD, 2797 posts
28 Aug 2008 3:14pm
walshd said...



And do local articles and secret spots around Oz. The locals will hate you for giving away their secret locations, but I reckon it would pay off.




everyone is a local somewhere. you will end up pissing off every kiter in the country, and give the mag a bad rep.

theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
28 Aug 2008 5:53pm
theDoctor said...

Ben De Jonge said...

Isn't that what Kite World already does? And does bloody well.


kite world sucks


my appologies, i have kite world confused with another overseas kite mag that does indeed suck, though you would have to agree, at $14.50 the price sucks.
vishy
vishy
WA
451 posts
WA, 451 posts
28 Aug 2008 8:01pm
Yeh no worries, there are a few overseas ones that are overly priced at newsagencies, I think Kiteboarder and Kitesurf maybe, both are average from memory.

Kiteworld may contain ads, but so do all of the mags, at least the articles are well written unlike one of our local magazines of late.

Usually your local kite shop stocks a range of mags at more reasonable prices than the newsagencies, beats paying $15 at newsagencies, On that note if you are makeing a magazine make it well priced, like <$8

Thanks
Matt
vader
vader
NSW
418 posts
NSW, 418 posts
29 Aug 2008 9:03am
i agree with walshd, it`s very hard to find kite mags in newsagentcy`s .most are quarterly and i only have one agetntcy in my area that sells them and thats in north shore sydney. though i`m always looking for a new one . one mag is rediculousely expensive $14.99 ,think it is a pommy mag i can`t justify spending that on a mag.
more mags the better.
cheers
JB
JB
NSW
2232 posts
JB JB
NSW, 2232 posts
29 Aug 2008 9:39am
I think the best mag around is that Canadian one. By far the best content, best editorials, best how to's. It's a good read with good shots, and seems to be very consistent with it's content. I can't remember the name of it, but I will find about and edit my post with it!

The Mag is SBC Kiteboarding.

JB
specimen
specimen
WA
221 posts
WA, 221 posts
29 Aug 2008 10:03am
I like the idea but yes research is the key to anything with a good launch. The current Aus mag is for lack of a better word crap. All it does is focus on QLD riders and sponsored riders which is fine but I for one will not buy it anymore.
A mag that focuses on the average kiter having fun and looking at kite spots around Australia and new gear sounds good to me. You will need obvisouly a clear vision and mission statement and stick to that and not stray to become another KBM.
The point was made that the market is small in Australia but that does not mean there isnt room for another. Maybe there worried you will take sales from their very average distribution.

You need a point of difference something cutting edge.

Good luck.
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
29 Aug 2008 12:37pm
^^^ totally agree, there is room for a new mag, if it's done right, it could really become the go to for australian kitesurfing.

specimen
specimen
WA
221 posts
WA, 221 posts
29 Aug 2008 10:55am
Futher to my first post. May be you should get out there and talk to kiters around Australia especially your target market and find out what they want in a mag. Take the time for the research and planing and it could a real winner. I will buy it.

Later
jumpindave
jumpindave
WA
124 posts
WA, 124 posts
29 Aug 2008 11:16am
^^^^ I also completly agree, kiteboarding isn't about the younguns, the majority of guys who do it are probably over 35 at most beaches!!! i say lets make a mag for us kooks and get behind it!
Dave.
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
29 Aug 2008 4:43pm
The only time I buy KBM is when I grab it by accident . . and then I feel ripped off. It's usually good for 3 mins in the newsagent. The only people that want to hear what 15yr olds think about life is 13 yr olds.

I buy every other mag I come across tho, and have a subscription to kiteworld.. I think it's the best for unbiased tests - for example the huge kite/board test in the last issue.

I'd buy another ozzy mag for sure.. until I get internet installed in the toilet anyway



stamp
stamp
QLD
2797 posts
QLD, 2797 posts
29 Aug 2008 4:52pm
kiteboy dave said...

kiteworld.. I think it's the best for unbiased tests -






kiteworld never says anything bad about any kite or board they test. the 'reviews' are just long winded ads for their sponsors.

jumpindave
jumpindave
WA
124 posts
WA, 124 posts
29 Aug 2008 3:06pm
I wouldn't mind seeing some reviews on CA PFD's and maybe even some emergency response beacons. There are lots of things you could do that haven't been catered for by the "punk" mags.
I also woundn't mind seeing a big ole one footer section, or maybe even a deadman, loving those at the moment.
I hope yoou can get this happening
Dave.
user
user
WA
1140 posts
WA, 1140 posts
29 Aug 2008 4:58pm
Something like the old "Freesail" would be good.
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