Make your own kite...

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laurie
laurie
NSW
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29 Oct 2010 1:34pm

Not sure the full story behind this, but they did it...




Full slideshow here...

http://picasaweb.google.com/primalmystery/KitemakingWorkshopMADEINAUSTRALIA#slideshow/5403943729656445554
GRunner
GRunner
QLD
238 posts
QLD, 238 posts
29 Oct 2010 1:28pm
Is that Ben Wilson's Dad?
getfunky
getfunky
WA
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29 Oct 2010 12:06pm
Texas kite masacre?

Bloody good effort if they stitched each panel and strut together. Might go a tad ruff tho?
bingles
bingles
WA
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29 Oct 2010 12:11pm
Just like your mum likes it - ruff
Hunter S
Hunter S
WA
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29 Oct 2010 12:36pm
I like making stuff, but some blokes have just got way too much time on their hands.

A for effort, but makes $2000 for a kite look cheap.
sunseeker
sunseeker
QLD
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29 Oct 2010 2:39pm
No bridle and no 5th line 2004 style c-kite which looks to be about a 16sqm. Make sure you don't go out in more than 15knots.
sunseeker
sunseeker
QLD
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29 Oct 2010 2:47pm
You'd also have to bring out the old swim towards the kite to flip it on its back and then manouver it round to the edge of the window trick for re-launch.

And the sand on the folded wingtip beach self launch.
philmb
philmb
WA
110 posts
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29 Oct 2010 1:24pm
Its actually not that hard, i downloaded... Urm i mean bought........ Some software that let you do it. You have a 3d model of the kite, let you adjust everything you could want. How many struts, aspect ratio, shape, size, wing tips, how many lines n everything else including bridal's.

you hit print and it works out all the panels for you and prints them out as a template, evan works out the bridal and prints diagrams. you just need a printer big anough. easy to find a place. Any place that prints 'plan prints'

I was gona make a 3 meter foil, just for fun... not got around to it yet..
Robbo2099
Robbo2099
WA
753 posts
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29 Oct 2010 1:53pm
sunseeker said...

No bridle and no 5th line 2004 style c-kite which looks to be about a 16sqm. Make sure you don't go out in more than 15knots.

You'd also have to bring out the old swim towards the kite to flip it on its back and then manouver it round to the edge of the window trick for re-launch.

And the sand on the folded wingtip beach self launch.


THE FULL STORY:

Yep, it was 2004, and an old-style 4-line, and actually, it is 23.6 sq m!

I still have it. It did fly; I did kite with it a few times but as you can imagine, it was ummm, a bit well, big. At the time, we were frustrated that there never seemed to be enough wind on the Northern Beaches for the kites we had so we were trying to make something that would be useful (i.e., big enough for the typical summertime wind on the northern beaches in Sydney.) We didn't realise at the time that bigger size also means LOTS more weight, slower turning, less apparent wind and less useful wind range! Live and learn.

It was one of those "sounded-like-a-good-idea-at-the-time" adventures that turned out to be about 20X more complicated that expected--but I just didn't want to give up until it was done!

About 8 of us started out-- All weekend in a gymnasium -- but that was only the beginning. I think four of us actually finished and made a working kite, which came about three months later. Yes, it is 'ruff' -- it was made with a grandma-style Singer sewing machine, woefully inadequate for the task. Probably took me about 100+ hours all up, 2km of thread and and about three dozen broken needles.

The worst bit was after we attached all the struts to the leading edge only to realise we'd put them on upside down and had to take them all off and do it all over again. That was a near-suicide moment.

Yeah, relaunch is a challenge. Best technique is not to put it down in the first place.

I'm happy to make one for you anytime--as I said in the last slide: Price: $50,000 for the base model! (not including bar and lines...)

Experiential learning is knowledge you never forget.

getfunky
getfunky
WA
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29 Oct 2010 2:04pm
23 kn metres!?

Must have hade a 1 knot wind range?

Onya for having a crack. Live n learn.

NJPornstar
NJPornstar
WA
790 posts
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29 Oct 2010 2:12pm
Awesome effort!
Making kites is no where as easy as you think.

And yes they are sold too cheap for the effort that goes into it.
Robbo2099
Robbo2099
WA
753 posts
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29 Oct 2010 2:31pm
NJPornstar said...

Awesome effort!
Making kites is no where as easy as you think.

And yes they are sold too cheap for the effort that goes into it.


Indeed! -- to all those awesome little ladies in the kite factories in China: R. E. S. P. E. C. T. !
Robbo2099
Robbo2099
WA
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29 Oct 2010 2:35pm
If anybody is game to have a go--here's where to start!

www.surfplan.com.au/sp/


I dare you! hehe
bws
bws
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29 Oct 2010 4:47pm
I just spent a week at our kite factory in China - I shot a heap of video of all the different stages - Each kite takes about 3 full days of work and when you see that is involved - and how labour intensive it is - you realise its a hellofalottawork!!!!
Ill post the edited footage at some stage of how the kites are made - it is really interesting .
Cheers
Bruce
bargearse
bargearse
QLD
148 posts
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30 Oct 2010 6:23am
a guy in Townsville used to make his own out of those blue tarps from superheap and ply boards.

Uses Flysurfers now but
Joe Cron
Joe Cron
NSW
450 posts
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30 Oct 2010 10:39am
I've always marveled at modern kites.

Now I appreciate them even more so.

Thank you.
coupedeluxe
coupedeluxe
WA
14 posts
WA, 14 posts
30 Oct 2010 9:46am
"Each kite takes about 3 full days of work and when you see that is involved - and how labour intensive it is - you realise its a hellofalottawork!!!!"

Lucky those little Chinese ladies only get 50c an hour!

GriffinKites
GriffinKites
NSW
201 posts
NSW, 201 posts
30 Oct 2010 12:59pm
Depends how you design your kite to how hard + time to make. We have provided designs for make your own kite classes and found out that making a 20+meter kite is 1000 times harder than making a 7m kite..

Most kites have 20 panels on the canopy, + 20 on the leading edge, when you add paneling patterns this can take the number of panels up to 40 or 50 panels, then sew them all together. Which takes a crap load of time.

OR

Design a kite with 6 panels on the LE and canopy. You would have it made in half a day with 1 person a sewing machine and a knife..

I made one of these up.

Skid
Skid
QLD
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31 Oct 2010 12:14pm
bargearse said...

a guy in Townsville used to make his own out of those blue tarps from superheap and ply boards.

Uses Flysurfers now but


^^^ That would be Ian
If you 'break' a kite and want it fixed fast, he's the 'go to' man

Cabron
Cabron
QLD
363 posts
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31 Oct 2010 11:14pm
What happened to the Red, Green and White rip stop nylon in the construction photos.....was there a twin never released to the public......still in the closet.... or did it get badged and sold as a ...insert kite brand here.......... kite
INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
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31 Oct 2010 11:46pm
bargearse said...

a guy in Townsville used to make his own out of those blue tarps from superheap and ply boards.

Uses Flysurfers now but


Thats Ian Bournes, he used to make his own foil kites and still got a few prototypes in his shed. He also repairs most the kites in our region and does an amazing job.
Hands down Ian kites 250days a year. LEGEND!

Robbo2099
Robbo2099
WA
753 posts
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31 Oct 2010 9:47pm
Cabron said...

What happened to the Red, Green and White rip stop nylon in the construction photos.....was there a twin never released to the public......still in the closet.... or did it get badged and sold as a ...insert kite brand here.......... kite


Turns out, after checking my files, it was actually 2003, not 2004 as originally reported -- Here are some additional photos and a video of the first test on the water of one of the kites. It was only 12 knots on the day and cross-offshore -- Fishermans Beach Collaroy, NSW.

Yes, there was a red and white "twin" of the 23.6m black and blue kite that was started -- perhaps Chris can tell us where that one ended up...

Given the vintage when they were made, they were surprisingly good kites:










KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
1 Nov 2010 12:04pm
My wife made a quilt once. Nearly sent her mad. Glad she never decided to make a kite!
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