time for a good reminder, we were kiting last night near cott at about 5.30pm and a front went past with dark clouds, it was blue sky above us and it looked like it was maybe 200-400 mtrs from us so no real concern WRONG!
I felt a substantual tingle go through my arms twice, over a 20sec period & thought i have buggered my back. after going into shore, my mate had the same experience we then worked out, we were receving some sort of electrical discharge from the front that went past us,,would not like to caught out in a flat out storm front, im thinking you are better than good chance you will be a crispy critter Big time

Mr float said...

Interesting one here a few days ago .Storm approaching.Some higher darkish cloud above us but main part of the storm still 20 km to the west .Also checked radar and lightning tracker before i went out and indicated 1 hr session should be in order .
After 5 mins bang ,didn't see the strike but it must have been close .Usually get the tingles prior to the main activity or a static crack on landing a jump.None of that .
2 of us came straight in .Two temporary Australians continued to kite and came in after about 5 mins and stood on the beach with kites at noon for another 5 mins and finally put kites down

so do you get some static activity prior to the front passing ????, can you send me any info on lighting the lightning tracker

I bet your head hit the bonnet, ha ha ha

elmo said...

If you can hear it fear it
If you can see it flee it

Good rules for lightening, have a read of some articles on it, there have been people hit where the clouds are 10km's away.

Also

Quite a bit of lightening (I think) starts as a static charge from the ground then the bolt comes from the cloud, your kites put that charge a bit higher up in the air.

I've got to admit much as I like watching lightening, I hide in my car when it's near

Yeah thats quite true, that tingle feeling is a leader heading upwards from the ground, it's when those leaders arc with the ones coming down that you get fork lightning.

Although in this case it could perhaps be the kite flying through the air that has created the static energy that was felt, perhaps because of the atmospheric conditions

Taking photos of lightning is a hobby of mine, here are some more lightning links, most of which are run by people with lightning detectors connected to the internet.

Australia: (Subscribe to zoom in much further)
www.weatherzone.com.au/stormtracker/

Australia and NZ
www.sphere.net.au/strikestarau/

Brisbane/Gold&Sunshine Coasts & Nth NSW
noisemapping.com.au/lightning/stormvue.html

Melbourne & 300km surrounding area
www.vk3csj.com/Dandenong.html

Cairns & Nth Qld
www.gorgecreekorchards.com.au/StormVue.html

Southern NSW
www.conder-act.com/weather/StormVue_Frame.html

Sydney
wxdata.ath.cx/lightning/StormVue.html

And here is a photo I took out my back door

Lightning striking ground can still be dangerous over 100 feet from where it struck. Some believe lightning will go even further in water, because it's a conductor. But lightning in ground often spreads out in 'ground streamers', quasi-radial tendrils of electricity, which allows it to go farther than if it was dissipating uniforming. Some believe lightning is less likely to form these streamers in water, dissipating more uniformly. So the total area affected may be larger than on land, because water is a better conductor, but the distance it remains dangerous may be less, since it may not form ground (sic) streamers. However, I'm extremely confident that "6 feet to the post" is insanely inadequate for safety. At that distance, you're in danger of a lightning 'side flash' from the post through the air to you, even before it finds the water. General lightning safety guidance uses 6 miles as a reasonable compromise between safety and lifestyle impact.

This strike was about 200m away from me ... scared the you know what from me ..

Elmo has got the right idea.

If there is ANY sign there might be electrical activity nearby get off the water. Your kite is building up electrical charge all the time and the first bolt from a storm or front could well be through your nice wet kite down the highly conductive lines and through you.

I saw a guy get zapped on Botany Bay a few years back and actually saw the arc come out his back. There was a big line of storms coming but they were over 10km away. His kite must have built up enough charge and he disharged down through the water. It was not a lightning strike as such but a big dishcharge that was so bright we could see it from the shore. The pain wiped him out and and we thought we were going to have to rescue him.

I have been struck by lightning in aeroplanes several times. The worst was when we were over 35km away from a cell.(That is not a typo 20nm - 35km) It was big and active and we thought we were a safe distance away. Not so - we still got hit by the mother of all ligtning bolts and by the time we left the the airport they had found 12 exit burn holes in the skin and were still counting.

I would hate to think what even a small bolt could do to a person attached to a big kite.

If you can hear, smell or feel a storm coming get off the water. By the time the first bolts of lightning are coming down you have already left it too late.

Aiolus said...

This strike was about 200m away from me ... scared the you know what from me ..

Is that gerroa? It looks exactly like the view from some fiends who lived there until a couple of years ago

i was out last week there were some menacing dark blue clouds around but no thunder or lighting but it seems your lines pick up static electricity every time i jumped, and landed i felt this funny tingel on my feet and hands.. it took me a while to figure out what it was... then i put down my kite rather quickly

Protection ?
ok apart from the obvious, (getting off the water and pulling your kite down, if there is any sign of a storm cell)

is there any other way you can protect yourself ?

e.g.: is there something you could attach to your lines, close to the kite end, to prevent static from coming down the lines to you ?