Knife-Yes or No

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Perth232
Perth232
44 posts
44 posts
30 Sep 2011 4:31pm
Having just read the story of the kiter who died recently, I saw alot of peope recomending carrying a safety knife to cut lines etc. What are your thoughts, do any of you do this? If so what model/brand do you use.

Link to story kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2372312
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
30 Sep 2011 5:07pm
Definite yes from me, I had my arm wrapped in the lines of a loose kite that was looping out of control after a kite rescue went wrong, my kite was still in the air but I was able to pull the knife out of the pouch that I have attached to the straps on the front of my harness and cut myself free.
I may have been able to get out of it some other way but as it was well after sunset and a km or so out at sea I wasn't about to mess around.
Any type of hook knife from any kite shop will do, I think mine is a Da Kine and with the lines under tension like they were it cut through no worries at all.
Big eeeZeee
Big eeeZeee
NSW
1100 posts
NSW, 1100 posts
30 Sep 2011 7:51pm
all kiters should have one. Pretty sure all new harnesses come with a hook knife
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
30 Sep 2011 8:16pm
Big eeeZeee said...

all kiters should have one. Pretty sure all new harnesses come with a hook knife


mine didn't, and it's a top shelf harness too.
I think it's wise to carry a knife. I've never needed one, but you never know when you might need one
kyteryder
kyteryder
NSW
692 posts
NSW, 692 posts
30 Sep 2011 8:22pm
Mine didnt come std, but bought it as an extra for about 10 bucks Mystic Warrior 2. I have one on my other harness, so if i take either ou I am covered.

The only thing with carrying a knife, you have to remember where it is. The one on my dakine is on the back. The one on my Mystic is on the side towards the front.
Get to know the location just as well as your safety systems. Different kites have them slightly different configurations, so if you own different brand bars, you have a different safety, that may cause you to hesitate, when you really need It.

KR
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
30 Sep 2011 9:01pm
This story has inspired me to sew a new and more easily accessible knife pocket on the front of my harness. Reaching round the back for a knife is only slightly easier than reaching round the back to release your leash.

Incidentally, I plan on using an old bit of neoprene from a dead wetsuit. Old bits of neoprene come in handy for all sorts of stuff.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
30 Sep 2011 7:15pm
Yes the least used best prezzie i ever got was a Da kine hook knife
Located on the strap on the front of my harness.
Check it regulary they do rust out y'know


bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
30 Sep 2011 9:30pm
hey reli does the pouch connect easily to your harness or do you need a little pocket to put it in?

As for the rust, an occasional spray of fish oil should prevent that.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
30 Sep 2011 7:46pm
has a thingo on the back that you can slip your harness strap through
the walks
the walks
WA
448 posts
WA, 448 posts
30 Sep 2011 8:09pm
got myself a ion apex harness, hook knife cleverly postioned in the spreader bar for easy access never kite in waves without a knife
Perth232
Perth232
44 posts
44 posts
30 Sep 2011 8:10pm
Thanks for that. May have to sew something into harness as well. Accessability in a situation is key. Not point havent it where you cant reach it.
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
30 Sep 2011 8:25pm
All abovr is great...

If doing freestyle, the better you get, the less the need...
In the surf its essential, just in case.
Ive used it once on someone elses kite, in 8 years... Its like carrying a swiss army knife, it comes in handy......
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
30 Sep 2011 10:45pm
You never need one ... until you need one. They only cost $20.
diginoz
diginoz
WA
317 posts
WA, 317 posts
30 Sep 2011 10:10pm
Might also come in handy if you accidently have to cut the lines of the pr,.,s who surf in front of the SLSC'S ETC.
Never needed one yet but I have thought about it.
With me if **** happens ill be the one too tell the story.aaaaaaggggggggggggghhh
Addikt
Addikt
WA
553 posts
WA, 553 posts
30 Sep 2011 10:25pm
I have two one in my harness and one in my pocket..............
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
1 Oct 2011 9:34am
Addikt said...

I have two one in my harness and one in my pocket..............

I think they are talking about hook knives not hunting knives addikt
sleek1
sleek1
VIC
672 posts
VIC, 672 posts
1 Oct 2011 1:35pm
Thats all very well but i recommend carrying a Gun if kiting Frankston area.
madsailor
madsailor
QLD
71 posts
QLD, 71 posts
1 Oct 2011 1:58pm


that's not a knife

this is a knife

sorry couldn't resist
radman4
radman4
678 posts
678 posts
1 Oct 2011 2:27pm
A big YES from me,in the old days they came standard with quite a few makes of harness then they vanished,bring back the knife i say,think i've still got one in an old Dakine Pyro will add it to my mystic tomorrow,never needed one but due to recent events it seems stupid not to carry one,a wise man once said "better to have and not need than need and not have".
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
1 Oct 2011 8:22pm
For those with knives make sure you cover the blades with vaseline and check them regularly.

Otherwise they will rust and be useless when you need them
doonas_r_cool
doonas_r_cool
132 posts
132 posts
2 Oct 2011 12:07am
sleek1 said...

Thats all very well but i recommend carrying a Gun if kiting Frankston area.


hahahahahahahahahahaha
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
2 Oct 2011 12:33pm
Yes - I've unfortunalty had to use mine once as well.
Eye of the storm
Eye of the storm
QLD
131 posts
QLD, 131 posts
2 Oct 2011 3:13pm
It's interesting that it was easier to find a harness with a knife in the past.
I think the same goes for handles on the back of harnesses. All harnesses used to have a handle, now very few do.
Addikt
Addikt
WA
553 posts
WA, 553 posts
2 Oct 2011 4:38pm
TurtleHunter said...

Addikt said...

I have two one in my harness and one in my pocket..............

I think they are talking about hook knives not hunting knives addikt



Always sharp too !


funkyllama
funkyllama
TAS
308 posts
TAS, 308 posts
2 Oct 2011 9:43pm
Yes to knife. Brilliant idea.
my Pat love Cast harness has one on the side, just have to keep checking that the snap on button is locked in or it may fall out.
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
3271 posts
WA, 3271 posts
2 Oct 2011 6:56pm
Addikt said...

TurtleHunter said...

Addikt said...

I have two one in my harness and one in my pocket..............

I think they are talking about hook knives not hunting knives addikt



Always sharp too !





Why are you kiting with what looks like a dildo Addikt?
Addikt
Addikt
WA
553 posts
WA, 553 posts
2 Oct 2011 8:21pm
Chris6791 said...

Addikt said...

TurtleHunter said...

Addikt said...

I have two one in my harness and one in my pocket..............

I think they are talking about hook knives not hunting knives addikt



Always sharp too !







Why are you kiting with what looks like a dildo Addikt?


It is actually a fleshlight......;)
Gwendy
Gwendy
SA
472 posts
SA, 472 posts
2 Oct 2011 11:42pm
Obviously, you can't go kiting without your light sabre
e0422713
e0422713
WA
975 posts
WA, 975 posts
3 Oct 2011 8:58am
knives $5 send money to 5 harrier place stirling 6021 include delivery address ( only in australia )
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
3 Oct 2011 9:53am
Got a Dakine one but it came off first sesh!

Good idea to have one though and will get a replacement asap.

Ta for the reminder
dbabicwa
dbabicwa
WA
808 posts
WA, 808 posts
3 Oct 2011 10:59am
After reading this horrible story I don't think a knife would help
:(

QR didn't help either.

What would probably work is releasing the harness completely.

This reminds me of having a similar scenario while learning body dragging with a seat harness. The bar end was stuck on harness hook, impossible to release! The other line was also around the hook.

The kite finally settled, if didn't, who knows...

This was a decision point to get a waist harness (me think not easy to get off but better than a seat one).

Maybe some sort of QR for the harness hook?
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