Kitesurfing v's Surfing

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Joe Cron
Joe Cron
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21 Oct 2011 1:41pm
OK, my spidey sense is tingling, this may be controversial (especially to non kiting surfers reading this forum), and maybe my bravado is running high having just emerged from the KOTP 'Kiters carnt do full round house cut backs' fur ball but I like kiting so much more than surfing.

There, I said it.

Lovely spring day, light off shore.

Surfing is 95% paddle, wait, hassle, 5% doing.

Kiting 3% setup, pull down, 97% doing.

I'm waiting for the nor easter to pick up this arvo for the main event.

Ahhh, either way, life's good.
JOYRIDER
JOYRIDER
705 posts
705 posts
21 Oct 2011 10:47am
they both have there pluses and minuses.

small glassy = SUP

big gnarly glass = Surf

15knt > kite.

any time in between is sleep, eat or trying to get laid.

Prawnhead
Prawnhead
NSW
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21 Oct 2011 2:21pm
can we introduce strapped v strapless just to get it up and running !!
RPM
RPM
WA
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RPM RPM
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21 Oct 2011 12:55pm
or fire up a discussion regarding maximum pooh stance on SUP?
doggie
doggie
WA
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21 Oct 2011 1:37pm
Rather surf than teabag
Chris_M
Chris_M
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21 Oct 2011 1:41pm
I like to ride a big pink stand up goatboat
dave......
dave......
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21 Oct 2011 2:01pm
What about those twin-tips, there so 2009. And straps, arent they too expensive?
ok
ok
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ok ok
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21 Oct 2011 5:09pm
whats a strap?
laurie
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21 Oct 2011 5:49pm
Spring is the best time of year for watersport.

Summer sure is peak time for kitesurfing, but if you surf/sup...

+ Still getting swells from winter fronts

+ Banks still present at local breaks for great waves

+ Mild easterlies in the morning for glassy surfing/sup

+ Arvo seabreeze for kitesurfing

+ Not getting fried by 50+ UV from the sun

Happy days.
sunseeker
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21 Oct 2011 4:53pm
Still get the most stoke from a good surf. However, on the east coast of Aus as a surfer, you'd be crazy not to kite too. Therer are so many days when it's too windy to surf and kiting on a surf board makes so much sense. They don't compete against each other, they complement each other.
stuntnaz
stuntnaz
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21 Oct 2011 5:53pm
Have surfed since i was 5yrs old am now 33yrs old and wished i started kite surfing years ago, Kite surfing is heaps better than surfing .
sunseeker
sunseeker
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21 Oct 2011 4:55pm
Also, with surfing, it's about the whole experience not just riding the board. The paddling keeps you fit and the time spent in the water chatting to your mates is also part of the whole package.
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
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21 Oct 2011 6:26pm
sunseeker said...

Also, with surfing, it's about the whole experience not just riding the board. The paddling keeps you fit and the time spent in the water chatting to your mates is also part of the whole package.


I would have thought the constant pressure on your legs and adjusting your centre of gravity for balance/activating your core would have kept you just as fit kitesurfing as surfing...

You get the chatting with your mates bit when you are standing on the beach waiting for the wind to pick up and you rely on each other to launch and look out for each other in case you get in a spot of bother.

Both sports are awesome and, as said before complement each other/mutually exclusive anyway!

Ioz
Ioz
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21 Oct 2011 5:20pm
As a life long surfer and a k surfer of 11 years I would rather it 6 - 8 foot. Offsite and barreling with naked women on the beach every time. Failing that and crossshoe / onshore kite surfing is absolutely fantastic !!!!!
stamp
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21 Oct 2011 7:26pm
lostinlondon said...



I would have thought the constant pressure on your legs and adjusting your centre of gravity for balance/activating your core would have kept you just as fit kitesurfing as surfing...





paddling is a far harder workout than kiteboarding. no comparison

TurtleHunter
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WA
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21 Oct 2011 5:39pm
stamp said...

lostinlondon said...



I would have thought the constant pressure on your legs and adjusting your centre of gravity for balance/activating your core would have kept you just as fit kitesurfing as surfing...





paddling is a far harder workout than kiteboarding. no comparison




I thought the same 20kg ago
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
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21 Oct 2011 9:38pm
^^^ lol I resemble that remark!
Joe Cron
Joe Cron
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22 Oct 2011 6:05pm
Unquestionably, I find surfing much more physically demanding overall than kiting. It's all the paddling, especially when it's a bit bigger or a hard, rippy paddle.


But how deeply sore do ones core muscles get after a few hours kiting? Like a million sit ups.
puffy
puffy
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22 Oct 2011 3:14pm
doggie said...

Rather surf than teabag


Depends who your teabagging!
MDickerson
MDickerson
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22 Oct 2011 7:19pm
If you are not a good surfer, and you surf in a populated areas, you either have to surf the close out sections or you have to compete with the good surfers and end up having to give way to them all the time as they are up first... surfing can thus be quite full of tension and is quite competitive.

Kiting on the other hand, is way less competitive, everybody gets to kite, we tend to keep well clear of each other, but keep an eye on each other just in case we need to help out ... cause next time we might be the ones looking for help.

As a result I am now a way better kiter than I am a surfer, Kiting wins.

IMHO, Matthew
eppo
eppo
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22 Oct 2011 5:12pm
I do both. Was either bali or kiting at exmouth with two new kites. The latter won. Say no more. You need a lot of factors to come together for a good surf and when they do come together it's mad crowds. Kiting just needs wind. Both are great, surfing you are more connected with the water, kiting is far more experimental and intense - unless you big wave surf, but not good enough for that. I think an uncrowded 6 to 8 foot barrelling wave in the mentawi's though could beat a great kite, but how often can that happen. Time versus experience versus cost, kiting wins.
Joe Cron
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1 Nov 2011 11:46am

Not my idea of a good time.
blueprint
blueprint
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1 Nov 2011 9:26am
laurie said...

Spring is the best time of year for watersport.

Summer sure is peak time for kitesurfing, but if you surf/sup...

+ Still getting swells from winter fronts

+ Banks still present at local breaks for great waves

+ Mild easterlies in the morning for glassy surfing/sup

+ Arvo seabreeze for kitesurfing

+ Not getting fried by 50+ UV from the sun

Happy days.



+1, however if forced to choose, I'd take a surf in decent conditions with just me and a few mates hands down, something about just being out there not dependeant on piles of gear.

Outside of this with metro grovel and the 30 guys who think they are the next Kelly Slater then give me a kite any day.

tmiddled
tmiddled
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1 Nov 2011 4:58pm
Disclaimer: surfed most of my life (not a pro, but good enough), kiting for 4 years (this is my second strapless season), and 2 years paragliding.

When you get those surfs that are just insane (I call them "f*ck yeah surfs") then it wins in my opinion, hands down. No questions. However unless you can travel the world surfing, you are lucky to get a handfull a year (if that).

When you get those days with a delicious white puffy clouds base at 10 000 + feet, paragliding comes in a close second. Those are also not so frequent.

Kiting is always good when there is enough wind, and can be exceptional when you combine it with good surf. However comparing the best surf with the best fly with the best kite, it comes in third. But oh the consistancy :-)

Put a gun to my head to choose one for the rest of my life, I would pick surfing
chronic
chronic
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2 Nov 2011 12:13am
surfing is like my wife - i'll never leave her
and kitesurfing like my girlfriend - just on the side but adding plenty of fun to my life
you just can't do both at the same time either
AndreC
AndreC
WA
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1 Nov 2011 11:37pm
They clearly dont vS eachother...when its windy its **** surfing so kiting wins...when its not windy and the swell is running surfing wins easy..the only thing close waking up with a 10 in your bed.
Now the trifecta is rolling off a 10 coz your mate has rocked up for the dawny and you pack kite gear incase wind picks up. Wind rocks up after a an epic surf and lunch and bang you are tearing it up with just yo mate out while the surfers are writing you off(but u dont care) This is all doused down with cold beer after with yo mate at the pub where you are clearly looking to replicate that days activities the next day and your next bedwarmer is in sight. If you are a married man this story may vary slightly but we get the drift...Lets just be greatful we have this awsum **** to do.
Tony Armstrong
Tony Armstrong
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2 Nov 2011 7:46am
Surf, kite, strapped or unstrapped, SUP, fly (preferably hangie wing. Big hill or small hill), snow or waterskiing, whatever floats your boat. I don't care what activity it is as long that I'm having FUN and learning something new with whatever playing surface I'm on.

Peace
Joe Cron
Joe Cron
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2 Nov 2011 8:21am
AndreC said...

They clearly dont vS eachother...when its windy its **** surfing so kiting wins...when its not windy and the swell is running surfing wins easy..the only thing close waking up with a 10 in your bed.
Now the trifecta is rolling off a 10 coz your mate has rocked up for the dawny and you pack kite gear incase wind picks up. Wind rocks up after a an epic surf and lunch and bang you are tearing it up with just yo mate out while the surfers are writing you off(but u dont care) This is all doused down with cold beer after with yo mate at the pub where you are clearly looking to replicate that days activities the next day and your next bedwarmer is in sight. If you are a married man this story may vary slightly but we get the drift...Lets just be greatful we have this awsum **** to do.


Now that's creative writing.
KIT33R
KIT33R
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2 Nov 2011 10:15am
Aren't we lucky we can even have this discussion. 99% of the people on the planet reckon they've had a good day if they get 1 decent meal.

Just keepin' it real.
Supergus
Supergus
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2 Nov 2011 11:30am
Horses for courses. . . . Its all good. . . .
Ozoned
Ozoned
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2 Nov 2011 12:03pm
AndreC said...

They clearly dont vS eachother...when its windy its **** surfing so kiting wins...when its not windy and the swell is running surfing wins easy..the only thing close waking up with a 10 in your bed.
Now the trifecta is rolling off a 10 coz your mate has rocked up for the dawny and you pack kite gear incase wind picks up. Wind rocks up after a an epic surf and lunch and bang you are tearing it up with just yo mate out while the surfers are writing you off(but u dont care) This is all doused down with cold beer after with yo mate at the pub where you are clearly looking to replicate that days activities the next day and your next bedwarmer is in sight. If you are a married man this story may vary slightly but we get the drift...Lets just be greatful we have this awsum **** to do.


+1.
I'll do what ever is right for the conditions, kite, surf, mountain bike, snorkel/dive, guitar, whatever.

My surfing mates like to have a dig about the kiting but they are just jealous because they don't do it themselves and are missing out on the action.

But I definately hang for a kite more than a surf.
3 hours board riding time kiting vs 2 mins board riding surfing (10 waves per session at about 10 secs each).
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