Kite Pulleys - youre best safest bet !

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SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
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WA, 1908 posts
23 Mar 2012 7:54am
At last someone in the so called high tech kite industry listened to what kiters really wanted

Bugga - 6 kites, now I have to buy 12

Epic kites metal slider, pulley can be used on any kite too




The pulley starts at 1:30

cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
23 Mar 2012 8:07am
Sorry even with these you'll see deterioration of the bridal lines,they flatten the line ,no pulleys no problems,
BrisKites
BrisKites
QLD
1293 posts
QLD, 1293 posts
23 Mar 2012 10:12am
SaveTheWhales said...

At last someone in the so called high tech kite industry listened to what kiters really wanted



Yes they did and then Epic happily copied.
That style of connection in various forms has been around for a while now.

Also some kites like NAISH use a pulley which is perfectly safe. If it breaks you remain connected and can still fly your kite.
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
23 Mar 2012 11:26am
BrisKites said...

SaveTheWhales said...

At last someone in the so called high tech kite industry listened to what kiters really wanted



Yes they did and then Epic happily copied.
That style of connection in various forms has been around for a while now.

Also some kites like NAISH use a pulley which is perfectly safe. If it breaks you remain connected and can still fly your kite.


I like the Ronstan Orbital blocks. They run really well and are easy to free up when you get a bit of sand in them. I bought them for my 09 Helix from you guys and they have been great this season.
BurkeyBoy
BurkeyBoy
QLD
549 posts
QLD, 549 posts
23 Mar 2012 10:33am
I was fed up of replacing the cheap ronstan pulleys on my old Naish. The thin plastic wheels wear quickly and then the bridle lines get caught and sheredded. After some research I got onto Riley sailing pulleys which I found out some very early kites used. Very solid stainless pulleys that free up easily and don't trash your bridle lines like the cheap plastic Ronstans. Better still, they only cost about $6 each. Can't quite remember where I got them from, it was a WA chandlery with an online store.
JBFletch
JBFletch
QLD
1287 posts
QLD, 1287 posts
23 Mar 2012 1:33pm
you got friction???? you'll get wear... simple
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
23 Mar 2012 3:42pm
Fly Ozone - no pulleys.
someawe
someawe
WA
179 posts
WA, 179 posts
23 Mar 2012 12:58pm
Any of the ozones?
What about rebels?? Eppo?
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1908 posts
WA, 1908 posts
23 Mar 2012 2:07pm
Bwa haa haa you clowns are funny

If you dont have pulleys - this post aint for you... Stoopid

and yes friction wears everything... but your lines will break before that pulley

and as i have posted previously - yes there are a few different types about ... and No not everyone who lives outside of your wee kiteshop knows theres a safer alternative

I got quite a few emails from my last post about them, so here is a good post for safety information

Bwa haa haa - fwuck net trolls are awesome for entertainment
eppo
eppo
WA
9790 posts
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23 Mar 2012 4:23pm
someawe said...

Any of the ozones?
What about rebels?? Eppo?






And the Vegas... now.

Even the metal pulleys will deteriorate your lines. Be interesting to note if this is reduced or not. What have you found??

Watched the vid, yeh the wear will be less I think than the metal ring. Also guides the ropes better. Good idea.
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
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WA, 3271 posts
23 Mar 2012 4:37pm
Love it, every time someone brings up the North Rebels they call for Eppo, he never takes long to pop in
NickT
NickT
WA
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WA, 1094 posts
23 Mar 2012 4:45pm
Cabrinha were running these about two and a half years ago with their pro upgrade, then Core with the Gts, both ran different bridal line from the standard dyneema , I think it could be Kevlar sheathed spectra which wears very little. North fuses and I guess a couple others in 2011 range ran plastic (probably carbon impregnated) which were very low wear on standard dyneema bridals.
samoht
samoht
QLD
111 posts
QLD, 111 posts
23 Mar 2012 6:50pm
No Pulleys, no problems!

Loaded 5th lines solves all your problems.. Ya just gotta see the light.
giBiLatoR
giBiLatoR
QLD
147 posts
QLD, 147 posts
23 Mar 2012 8:02pm
been looking around for a fair while havent been able to find any info on this...

speaking about these sliders, pulleys and rings with rhys up at kitepower, he mentioned that if i put pulleys on in place of the rings i had on there at the moment, it would make the kite more responsive as the area that the pulleys move is a lot less then the ring would travel.

I hope that makes sense and someone can answer.

cheers josh.
jimovo
jimovo
16 posts
16 posts
23 Mar 2012 7:04pm
SaveTheWhales said...

At last someone in the so called high tech kite industry listened to what kiters really wanted

Bugga - 6 kites, now I have to buy 12

Epic kites metal slider, pulley can be used on any kite too


Yikes $US58 (Epic online store including freight) for two sliders... They may be listening but they are also rubbing their fingers together...

eppo
eppo
WA
9790 posts
WA, 9790 posts
23 Mar 2012 7:56pm
Chris6791 said...

Love it, every time someone brings up the North Rebels they call for Eppo, he never takes long to pop in






Yep i am officially farqed. Lol. In two years time I may be riding a completely different kite but that won't stop the references!! That's even after writing glowing reports about an ozone kite. Oh well we all know it's a kangaroo court around here. Any wind up your way Chris???
eppo
eppo
WA
9790 posts
WA, 9790 posts
23 Mar 2012 7:58pm
samoht said...

No Pulleys, no problems!

Loaded 5th lines solves all your problems.. Ya just gotta see the light.







Ha ha sh1t stirrer. But ya right.
FlamingTroll
FlamingTroll
WA
16 posts
WA, 16 posts
23 Mar 2012 8:43pm
Re pulleys, some brands have massive problems, like the sling shot revs PU bridles line shrinking with pulleys.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/How-to-adjust-for-shrinking-REV-bridles/

Some brands have no problems with pulleys using thicker replaceable bridle line using the cheaper pulleys

Go the 5th line option and tear your kite in half if you roll it in the waves, or roll your kite out at sea and have the 5th line wrap around your kite and swim in and spend ages untangling lines because you have to undo the lines, untangle and re do them up, because that's what happens when you crash and roll a kite with a 5th line some times...

Re the ozone no pulleys i have heard that some ozone bridles need replacing after a fair amount of use, stretch or Frey? has anyone had this happen?



eppo
eppo
WA
9790 posts
WA, 9790 posts
23 Mar 2012 8:51pm
NickT said...

Cabrinha were running these about two and a half years ago with their pro upgrade, then Core with the Gts, both ran different bridal line from the standard dyneema , I think it could be Kevlar sheathed spectra which wears very little. North fuses and I guess a couple others in 2011 range ran plastic (probably carbon impregnated) which were very low wear on standard dyneema bridals.






Actually you are right nick I remember them now on my cores. Yeh these aren't new at all!
Rattlehead
Rattlehead
QLD
555 posts
QLD, 555 posts
24 Mar 2012 1:05am
For pulleys 20mm to Ronstan orbit blocks do the job ,,, but if you can get your hands on some new harken 18mm carbo blocks these things are the cats ass ,harken is very well made top end gear....

www.mauriprosailing.com/product/HAR2698.html
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1908 posts
WA, 1908 posts
24 Mar 2012 6:47am

Jimmovo said
Yikes $US58 (Epic online store including freight) for two sliders... They may be listening but they are also rubbing their fingers together...


Dude - all that kiteing without sunnies has salted your eyes up

There $18 a pair with lines attached if you put your glasses on lol

look up there website - click store - click accessories

Its cheaper for me at $18 + post than to buy 1 Ronstan block with rope here !
jimovo
jimovo
16 posts
16 posts
24 Mar 2012 7:11am
SaveTheWhales said...


Dude - all that kiteing without sunnies has salted your eyes up
There $18 a pair with lines attached if you put your glasses on lol
look up there website - click store - click accessories
Its cheaper for me at $18 + post than to buy 1 Ronstan block with rope here !


Yes - must be the salt in my eyes I was quoting from the Epic store but I must have had something else in my cart because now when I check I get a different freight figure... Yes $18 for the pair + $8 freight (Brisbane) =$US26. Not too bad considering, however a quick search found the same sliders (no lines) for under $AU10 delivered for a pair...

Lovely
Lovely
QLD
248 posts
QLD, 248 posts
24 Mar 2012 5:08pm
Remove the dumbow pullies and dangerous bridals. They will seize, tangle and break. Thats fully fugged up - if you're powered.

Stupid pullies and bridals are completely unnecessary, they are a marketing gimick designed for school kites.

They are a "comfort blankie" for knobs who are scared of kite boarding.

Quote me ^^ if you're a beginner knob...

NSW, 4382 posts
24 Mar 2012 6:29pm
Lovely said...

Remove the dumbow pullies and dangerous bridals. They will seize, tangle and break. Thats fully fugged up - if you're powered.

Stupid pullies and bridals are completely unnecessary, they are a marketing gimick designed for school kites.

They are a "comfort blankie" for knobs who are scared of kite boarding.

Quote me ^^ if you're a beginner knob...




Blah blah blah ^^^
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1908 posts
WA, 1908 posts
24 Mar 2012 3:32pm
Lovely said...

Remove the dumbow pullies and dangerous bridals. They will seize, tangle and break. Thats fully fugged up - if you're powered.

Stupid pullies and bridals are completely unnecessary, they are a marketing gimick designed for school kites.

They are a "comfort blankie" for knobs who are scared of kite boarding.

Quote me ^^ if you're a beginner knob...




Oh Lovely your my new Hero - will you marry me
Nothin beats a man who knows what there talkin about & doesnt mind a bit of MAN TRAINING
NSW, 4382 posts
24 Mar 2012 6:33pm
BrisKites said...

SaveTheWhales said...

At last someone in the so called high tech kite industry listened to what kiters really wanted



Yes they did and then Epic happily copied.
That style of connection in various forms has been around for a while now.

Also some kites like NAISH use a pulley which is perfectly safe. If it breaks you remain connected and can still fly your kite.


Too right, these have been available for 2 years at least here in Oz
www.kitepower.com.au/collections/cabrinha

Click back one page from that link and you can purchase the orbit pulleys locally too.
Lovely
Lovely
QLD
248 posts
QLD, 248 posts
24 Mar 2012 5:41pm
Kitepower Australia said...

Lovely said...

Remove the dumbow pullies and dangerous bridals. They will seize, tangle and break. Thats fully fugged up - if you're powered.

Stupid pullies and bridals are completely unnecessary, they are a marketing gimick designed for school kites.

They are a "comfort blankie" for knobs who are scared of kite boarding.

Quote me ^^ if you're a beginner knob...





Blah blah blah ^^^


Blah ahh ha ha sales man knob.
Go back to your shop sell stuff there and not on "social forums"
Rattlehead
Rattlehead
QLD
555 posts
QLD, 555 posts
24 Mar 2012 6:17pm
Lovely said...

Kitepower Australia said...

Lovely said...

Remove the dumbow pullies and dangerous bridals. They will seize, tangle and break. Thats fully fugged up - if you're powered.

Stupid pullies and bridals are completely unnecessary, they are a marketing gimick designed for school kites.

They are a "comfort blankie" for knobs who are scared of kite boarding.

Quote me ^^ if you're a beginner knob...


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Blah blah blah ^^^


Blah ahh ha ha sales man knob.
Go back to your shop sell stuff there and not on "social forums"



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What the hell are you talking about,why would kite designers go to the trouble of putting pulleys and bridles on a kite if they were not needed?? yes agreed some kites can be designed without but the majority of kites have them ( i'm guessing 80% of kites have some sort of pulley/ bridle system). If your so against pulleys ,buy a kite with out them if you have a kite with pulleys make sure you maintain them and replace them with descent ones if they start to wear.
Lovely
Lovely
QLD
248 posts
QLD, 248 posts
24 Mar 2012 6:48pm
Oh Rattlehead your my new Hero - will you marry me
Nothin beats a man who knows what there talkin about & doesnt mind a bit of MAN TRAINING ^Save the whale quote^

Beginners need pullies cause they lack fly skill and marketing teams need something to sell. virtually all kiters above intermediate skills desire direct connections.
Down with dumb ass bridals.
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
24 Mar 2012 8:04pm
Lovely said...


Beginners need pullies cause they lack fly skill and marketing teams need something to sell. virtually all kiters above intermediate skills desire direct connections.


Another couple of years Lovely and you will be ready for direct connect
Dont give up man,,your nearly there.

And I dont think we need to see your personal pictures of your hubby
Lovely
Lovely
QLD
248 posts
QLD, 248 posts
24 Mar 2012 7:10pm
Righto bridal user.
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