those bar ends look crap, just more chunky and odd looking. why do they need to be soft anyway???.....oh that must be the the kiter who likes to take his equipment to the next level so to speak.

IDS= incredible dangle system hahahahaha.

id rather bar ends that are low profile and streamlined with no crap hanging off. i dunno why ppl think they need endwinders to start with its just as quick and easy to wrap your lines around your bar. then u can make your endwinders alot more streamlined and lines wont catch on them ethier.

you guys have only seen some blurred footage and a bit of e-info on a new piece of kit and already you are slagging it off. I say wait till you have seen or tried it with your own eyes....

IDS sounds very interesting, and there seems to be a few variations of it headed our way. ie the EVO has a similar setup.

5th line safety - particularly for self landing sounds great.... but I am struggling to understand how this will work in a senario when the kite is down in the water and you need to do a packdown. how will you get to the kite when its being held by 2 lines instead of one to the centre......

It is all about tweaking now....kites are becoming kites are becoming kites....who gives a flying f...............k, get a kite and fly it....you spoiled bitches.

This pic shows the upper half of the bar system of the IDS, the swivel will most likely change in design, and will probably look similar to the SS swivel.





This pic shows the new bar, new bar ends and the IDS activation system below the bar. The bar ends are awesome, they make the bar float, so there is no need to dangly floats, and they are soft on your hands. Functionally they are an excellent design.




This pic shows the front line pigtail, the front line bridle of a CB4 x 13M, in which there are 2 pulleys and only 4 attachment points for the bridle to the leading edge.
The trailing edge or rear line bridle and single pulley are not connected to the front lines on either the SB IDS, the CB4 IDS, or the Convert.




The system allows a rider to totally depower the kite in any winds, self land in any winds, for more details see the news item on this website and also at www.carbinhakites.com

I flew the 13M in underpowered conditions, the 16M in powered and the 7M and 9M in well powered conditions, the Crossbow is a completely new kite for 2009 and will be very popular.
Also flew the 14M SB IDS, and the 12M in underpowered conditions and the 8M in well powered conditions, this kites is quite different to last years, has maybe a bit less bottom end but more top end and has huge lift and hangtime with plenty of power in the turns for unhooked riders. Watched in awe as Jesse Richman pulled off the most amazing unhooked kite loop bar passes, massive jumps, board offs, raileys, you name he does it and often 20-30 plus feet in the air. Keahi and him were going off, and did some of the biggest jumps (besides my own) that I have ever seen. Keahi is a freak and would not say the word all week either!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

sir ROWDY said...





"""dont worry about it, some are just brand pimp riders. one shoudlnt take them seriously"""

dont think ive ever pimped a brand in my life mate.

That’s nice dear, but I wasn’t referring to you.

Kitepower Australia said...


Also flew the 14M SB IDS, and the 12M in underpowered conditions and the 8M in well powered conditions, this kites is quite different to last years, has maybe a bit less bottom end but more top end and has huge lift and hangtime with plenty of power in the turns for unhooked riders.

Any more info on the SB IDS Steve such as release date.

moon waxing said...

Kitepower Australia said...


Also flew the 14M SB IDS, and the 12M in underpowered conditions and the 8M in well powered conditions, this kites is quite different to last years, has maybe a bit less bottom end but more top end and has huge lift and hangtime with plenty of power in the turns for unhooked riders.

Any more info on the SB IDS Steve such as release date.

We should have stock to sell very soon, approx 3-4 weeks time. CB4 is available now, we will have stock in approx 7-10 days, but we have demo 9m and 13M CB4 IDS and 12M SB IDS now as well as a couple of boards.
The new footstraps are absolutely the best I have ever seen or used, will post a pic in another thread, the pimps are out in force on this one.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

In stock for demo, but not for sale just yet, 7-10 days for CB4 and approx 1 month for the SB IDS.
Prices are almost unchanged from last year, the average increase is only $50 per kite size.

I rode SB3's last year, a 10M and a 14M combined with 2 boards was all I needed.
This year I am leaning more towards the CB4, it has a shorter throw for the depower, which suits my shortass, and has heaps of lift and hangtime, as well as low to medium bar pressure and no pulleys on the bar.
Overall I liked the 9M CB4 IDS more than any other kite I tried, and I did ride it back to back with the 8M SB IDS twice in well powered 25-30+ knot conditions.
Experimented with the rear line connections and preferred the lighter option on both kites.
The big surprise for me was how well the 16M CB4 performed, much better than last years Contra, it is a really sweet big kite, for those that are big and us that like to cruise flatter water in lighter winds.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

walshd said...

I really like the design. It keeps cab owners happy because they can still ride suicide when unhooked and still have a good dedicated flagging system.

I know you cant satisfy everyone, but I see this design as a good step forward.

Personally, I like to have oh-sh!t handles and foamy bits for relaunching in no wind, and the 2 front lines within reach for self landing or for being able to untangle the lines if the kite was to invert, however I'd be just as happy with the new Cab bar.

The advantage with this IDS is everything is free spinning, whereas the rev setup you need to unclip your leash accassionally if you cant loop or roll in opposite directions.

The IDS bar floats really well with no extra dangly floats which I have always disliked on any kitebar.
The front lines of a bow kite are actually easily within reach. Many people do not realise you can just pull the centre line towards you to get hold of a centre line on non IDS bow kites.
The IDS makes redundant, the need to have access to the front lines for self landing.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

I look like kook before I do anything, so I'm told!

Once the IDS is activated the kite depowers completely and rolls onto its back, so no need to got for a front line, and it works every time regardless of wind strength. We tried the system in winds gusting to over 30 knots, with 7M and 9M CB4.

The lines do not branch out halfway, more like 2-2.5M above the bar, ok?

Check my pics further up this thread.

Cya and

Goodwinds

steve

Are you new to town? Flat and offshore is what it will be. go to said secret locations cause they all suck. get a hobby!

Well I had a demo of the 9m CB IDS yesterday at boat harbour. the wind was very gusty - and blowing between 25 - 35knots (gusts)....at a guess.
Nobody was putting up kites bigger than 9m.

Because of the gusts, which were also changing direction by 10 degrees most of the time, the kite initially felt to me a bit twitchy - a bit like the CB3, however when the wind smoothed out a bit later in the day - I could feel the CB4 as altogether a different kite... much like I felt when I first flew the SB3.

After spending some time building up the courage,....The first jump I attempted on this kite took me into orbit. (I am no jumping guru - and dont particularly like to go big), I got bit of a fright and pushed the bar quickly away - and dropped quickly - but landed fine.... this kite is by far the easiest I have used for jumping. I used ot have a 9m CB3, and struggled to time my jumps with it, where as the SB3 was simple, almost just a case of moving the kite from 11 to 12 at speed and up you go. The CB4 was much the same.
Maybe my jumps have got better - but I found them easy to land too.
(**note - when the wind is blow 25+ knots , jumping is pretty easy anyway)

The bar - and the knobbly bits on the end look and feel solid. The feel on the bar when flying the kite was very direct, and felt good. I never got a chance to try how they float. But I did not feel they made the bar clunky at all.
Wrapping up the lines was simple - and bar far easier to maintain on the bar.
For me the bar is definately an improvement....

The depower strap seemed to work more smoothly than my SB3. I didnt spend too much time looking at why.

I tried the self land - ie Pull the quick release. It kite dropped out of the sky, and rolled on to its back, and I stood still with no pull on me at all.
Im not quite sure what you do from then, ie do you walk up the kite holding both the front lines?
This might be tricky.
Certainly this feature would make me feel safer .... time will only tell of how safe this is. ie will this work when the kite has done a few loops , and the lines are twisted ? Could there be any other side effects.....

Build quality seems to be the same as last year... ie Very good. And could rival Slingshot even.

This session turned out to be one my best sessions ever!
It wasnt because of the kite however, it was because of the pod of dolphins that decided to join me and play for 20 minutes. FANTASTIC!!!!



I believe this kite is going to be very popular this year
Its on my christmas list....that is for sure.