I wanna be a kitesurfer

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Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
9 Jan 2011 11:24am
hi

.It looks so cool .I have never flown a kite in my life but I'm sure I can pick it up .I have next Sunday available between 11and 1.30pm (catching up with friends after that ) Sorry but the rest of the week is out .I am a workaholic and don't really finish till 6 (but that is why I can aford to kitesurf) .As you can see I am really pressed for time.I don't understand why everyone keeps saying "get the kite automated before you go adding crowded beaches ,high winds ,,boards and all that kind of stuff" I just want to get out there and do it ! .PS my confidence in the surf isn't very good .Can I do it on the lake?
wdric
wdric
NSW
1625 posts
NSW, 1625 posts
9 Jan 2011 11:51am
Mr float said...

hi
I have next Sunday available between 11and 1.30pm (catching up with friends after that ) Sorry but the rest of the week is out .I am a workaholic and don't really finish till 6 (but that is why I can aford to kitesurf) .As you can see I am really pressed for time.Can I do it on the lake?


His life just aint cut out for kitesurfing, we wont have to worry about him adding to the crowded spots will we

ok
ok
NSW
1089 posts
ok ok
NSW, 1089 posts
9 Jan 2011 11:59am
set him on fire?
NSW, 4382 posts
9 Jan 2011 12:04pm
ok said...

set him on fire?


I agree all these types should be set on fire, even though its not entirely their fault.
It gets even better when they say all the above + can't swim well!!! True it happens every season more than once!
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
9 Jan 2011 12:14pm
If anyone ever asks about kiting, there's a simple answer:

"It's expensive, dangerous, and really just a dumb fad that's already going the way of rollerblading. They don't even make kites anymore. I don't know how I got involved but will probably quit soon as my kites are wearing out. It's nowhere near as fun as it looks. I hear that power-walking and home ab machines are the way forward for lifestyle goodness. Sorry to disappoint you."

P.S. If you make your living out of kiting you're in a difficult position eh? I guess you could diversify your income stream so that you aren't tempted to encourage douchebags into the sport because you need their cash.
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
9 Jan 2011 12:35pm
djdojo said...

...already going the way of rollerblading. ...


Hey I resemble that remark!
hotracer
hotracer
73 posts
73 posts
9 Jan 2011 11:30am
You all looking at this the wrong way, this is the perfect candidate to sell some over priced second hand gear to!!! He will pay some one some good hard cash for some gear that will sit in the cupboard for the next ten years so he can tell all his rich mates he is a kitesurfer, give me his number I´ll sell him something!!
stabber
stabber
NSW
1114 posts
NSW, 1114 posts
9 Jan 2011 2:47pm
I asked you never to repeat that Lockie..... I was young and neive!


You forgot to add the part where I said I did not have the cash and could you consider my ass as a form of payment.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
9 Jan 2011 9:22pm
stabber said...

I asked you never to repeat that Lockie..... I was young and neive!


You forgot to add the part where I said I did not have the cash and could you consider my ass as a form of payment.


Wot but the seat cover and the uggies were nice and still goin strong
Baz
Baz
NSW
205 posts
Baz Baz
NSW, 205 posts
9 Jan 2011 10:07pm
That I believe is a perfect candidate to become a jet skier.



tim111
tim111
ACT
57 posts
ACT, 57 posts
9 Jan 2011 10:36pm
Has anyone kite surfed off niagara falls yet? - everything else has been done before...
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
10 Jan 2011 10:08pm
tim111 said...

Has anyone kite surfed off niagara falls yet? - everything else has been done before...


I dont think so, but you da man when its frozen
Joe Cron
Joe Cron
NSW
450 posts
NSW, 450 posts
11 Jan 2011 12:50pm
tim111 said...

Has anyone kite surfed off niagara falls yet? - everything else has been done before...


I was there 4 days ago and said exactly that to my wife.

Seeing the top of the falls, the level surface disappearing, I could imagine boosting off the top and floating down to ride away in the gorge. I think the thought would cross any kitesurfers mind.

She, understandably, called me insane and kite obsessed.

Here are the issues as I see them.

There are two falls there (I didn't know till I saw) the Canadian side called horseshoe falls (shaped like a horseshoe, yeah, really) and the American Falls. They are about 400 meters apart and the border runs between the two.

The American falls fall onto exposed rock. It would be very dangerous to jump, if you didn't get enough boost or float, wow, it would make a spectacular video.

The horseshoe falls fall into deep water, really deep.

There is plenty of wind in winter anyway, but I'm not sure of the prevailing direction in summer. You would need to hit a pretty small area to make the jump and landing. More research required here.

I imagine the water is freezing cold. I didn't touch it. The outside air temp was around -5 celcius, I had 4 layers, thermal underwear, gloves and a beanine on. Summer would definitely be the season to jump the falls.

The water moves quickly and accelerates as it approaches the top of the falls. This would obviously affect board speed, apparent wind, line loading and edge. Also, I assume there would come a point of no return, where, once passed, it would be impossible to abort and kite back upstream. Getting serious now.

The mist curling at the top of the falls indicates turbulent air currents there. I imagine it would be wise to clear these to avoid canopy collapse and subsequent spectacular video.

Assuming we made it this far, the drop is pretty large. The kite is going to be used as a parachute, don’t want any gear failures here. Lot's of time to go off course and land on the rocks or in the falling water itself. Something like 200, 000, 000 litres of water a minute go over the falls, Imagine getting dragged under by your kite in that. Better practice the safety release. Landing on the rocks wouldn't be much fun either. Precision steering and landing needed.

The legal aspect. There are border guards, police and plenty of uniforms around here. No standing zones all around the place. I got a parking ticket for being away from my car for a few minutes. I'm not sure how pumping up would go.
This is America however, (well, American and Canada) and they love advertising up here. If you were prepared to use your kite as a banner, you may get official sanctioning.

That's the falls jump as I see it. I'm sure someone will do it one day. I think I’d like to have a go, but I'm not sure I'll be the first.

Who's up for it?

Ozoned
Ozoned
NSW
58 posts
NSW, 58 posts
11 Jan 2011 1:09pm
Joe Cron said...

tim111 said...

Has anyone kite surfed off niagara falls yet? - everything else has been done before...


I was there 4 days ago and said exactly that to my wife.

Seeing the top of the falls, the level surface disappearing, I could imagine boosting off the top and floating down to ride away in the gorge. I think the thought would cross any kitesurfers mind.

She, understandably, called me insane and kite obsessed.

Here are the issues as I see them.

There are two falls there (I didn't know till I saw) the Canadian side called horseshoe falls (shaped like a horseshoe, yeah, really) and the American Falls. They are about 400 meters apart and the border runs between the two.

The American falls fall onto exposed rock. It would be very dangerous to jump, if you didn't get enough boost or float, wow, it would make a spectacular video.

The horseshoe falls fall into deep water, really deep.

There is plenty of wind in winter anyway, but I'm not sure of the prevailing direction in summer. You would need to hit a pretty small area to make the jump and landing. More research required here.

I imagine the water is freezing cold. I didn't touch it. The outside air temp was around -5 celcius, I had 4 layers, thermal underwear, gloves and a beanine on. Summer would definitely be the season to jump the falls.

The water moves quickly and accelerates as it approaches the top of the falls. This would obviously affect board speed, apparent wind, line loading and edge. Also, I assume there would come a point of no return, where, once passed, it would be impossible to abort and kite back upstream. Getting serious now.

The mist curling at the top of the falls indicates turbulent air currents there. I imagine it would be wise to clear these to avoid canopy collapse and subsequent spectacular video.

Assuming we made it this far, the drop is pretty large. The kite is going to be used as a parachute, don’t want any gear failures here. Lot's of time to go off course and land on the rocks or in the falling water itself. Something like 200, 000, 000 litres of water a minute go over the falls, Imagine getting dragged under by your kite in that. Better practice the safety release. Landing on the rocks wouldn't be much fun either. Precision steering and landing needed.

The legal aspect. There are border guards, police and plenty of uniforms around here. No standing zones all around the place. I got a parking ticket for being away from my car for a few minutes. I'm not sure how pumping up would go.
This is America however, (well, American and Canada) and they love advertising up here. If you were prepared to use your kite as a banner, you may get official sanctioning.

That's the falls jump as I see it. I'm sure someone will do it one day. I think I’d like to have a go, but I'm not sure I'll be the first.

Who's up for it?




You have put way to much thought into this Joe and I'm almost taking you seriously. Perhaps that cold air is affecting your brain. ;).
I reckon if you're gonna do this you need to kite up to the edge, boost, and release from the kite and use a wingsuit to glide down to the bottom. To much wind shadow once you go over the falls.
tim111
tim111
ACT
57 posts
ACT, 57 posts
11 Jan 2011 10:36pm
Haha I was just kidding, but since we are entertaining the idea now...

The falls in the photo above are the canadian ones. I dont think they ice over so no way it'd be done in winter. As far as wind shadows I know nothing about gliding really but I figure as long as your lines are loaded up you should float alright - in theory, anyway! It would be pretty nasty if you didn't have enough forward speed to get well away from the cliff and some rotor sends you back into it.

I am sure some nutter will do it one day. If given a choice of kiting it or going over it on a jetski or in a barrel I know what i would rather.

I definately won't be the one to try it though - that's for sure (i dont have a deathwish!)
tim111
tim111
ACT
57 posts
ACT, 57 posts
11 Jan 2011 10:36pm
ps: sorry Lach for the thread derail!
bjw
bjw
QLD
3690 posts
bjw bjw
QLD, 3690 posts
12 Jan 2011 12:52pm
Joe - dont be soft. Just have a crack
Joe Cron
Joe Cron
NSW
450 posts
NSW, 450 posts
13 Jan 2011 1:56pm
bjw said...

Joe - dont be soft. Just have a crack




Must say, I have still been thinking about it.
Joe Cron
Joe Cron
NSW
450 posts
NSW, 450 posts
13 Jan 2011 6:48pm
This idea is starting to consume me.

Imagine riding over the edge, clean into the air. Not necessarily even boosting, just on the water one second, and in the air the next.

Maybe not Niagara, but a smaller waterfall to start off with.


Can anyone suggest a suitable waterfall in NSW
KnutH
KnutH
VIC
427 posts
VIC, 427 posts
13 Jan 2011 7:54pm
The wind shadow would always be the problem, unless you are jumping off a point.
I'd suggest this strategy:
Make sure you are super overpowered and use extra long lines. Wind direction should be pretty much offshore from the waterfall.
Start the journey with a huge (mega)loop, then on the way down helicopter loop it like crazy to maintain enough lift in the rotor and get further away from the waterfall.
To be on the safe side I would still recommend an impact vest.
bjw
bjw
QLD
3690 posts
bjw bjw
QLD, 3690 posts
13 Jan 2011 8:00pm
Ignore that -
Just do it - youll get famous, get the chicks and get the money
terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
13 Jan 2011 6:47pm
Going over the edge - goat boat style.

bjw
bjw
QLD
3690 posts
bjw bjw
QLD, 3690 posts
13 Jan 2011 8:52pm
I claim fake
terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
14 Jan 2011 2:39am
Ok, the high res version

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thorn
thorn
WA
172 posts
WA, 172 posts
14 Jan 2011 8:41pm
How hard could it be !!!
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