mate you will never regret going over to c kites it was the best move i ever made for my progression with unhooked tricks, i think there is alot of bs said about c kites having limited wind ranges and being harder to use. i can get at least a 15 knt wind range comfortably with my kites, the best thing you can do is demo a few kites and see which one feels right for you.

From what i have read on Kiteforum, the new c kites this year have a bigger unhooking range than most delta or SLE kites, Fuels, Hadlows, Razor, Torch etc, they all have a big windrange and a lot of depower. So they shouldn't be a backwards step for you. I dont think that they are going to make you pass the bar etc easier but for more experienced kiters that know what they want from a kite are definitely worth trying out. So just get out there and try one.

If you do ditch the cabs and get the c kites, you may want to ditch the avitar pic, it suits for now but not many gays on c kites. Brokeback,lol

"handle passes in no time" Zac!!

Is that a promise?

C-kites = Advanced kiting

went from riding switchies to fuels a year ago and i m so much happier! have never missed the switchy once!

???
Why should a c-kite have better top end range than a bow?
If you look at the wind ranges from most manufacturers, they very much say otherwise.
Even if you don't trim it, I thought top end is rather a matter of the kite being designed for a low angle of attack, having a low drag profile and being more rigid. Because then you can edge it further to the side of the wind window, which doesn't seem desirable for unhooked freestyle as it's moving around too much.

yeehaa said...

Sure you can edge against a C and tame it down and still be out when it's howling.

But how quality of a session is it? Fight the kite the whole way, the waters chopped to S@#T.

I'll tell you what happens- you brake lines

er lol yeehaa ever heard of having a quiver and choosing the size of kite appropriate to the wind? No wonder all the bow kiters poo stance.

Hmmm, never owned a hybrid or a bow or wanted to (have ridden them though). Big eeeZeee - Give it a crack - if you want to organise to try one out PM me (fuels).

My 2 cents:
*Bows have greater range - not necessarily a good thing as it can compromise technique and I hate seeing the poo stance
*If it is nuking a Bow or hybrid is notbetter than a C - what matters is picking the right size and the riders skillz
*a lot of people on this forum are sheep and subscribe to the bows/hybrids are safer bullsh!t. Maybe in 2005, but not today. No 100% depower crap please
*Morph - good to hear
*C4 is not a true C - no arguments please
*Knut H - poo stance only gets you so far - there comes a time when you need to edge hence those kiters that are used to it will deal with it better.
*C's can boost

I miss my C...

Constant pull throughout the turns, or when you edge against it?

kiter zac said...

KnutH said...

axis said...
*Knut H - poo stance only gets you so far - there comes a time when you need to edge hence those kiters that are used to it will deal with it better.

Yes, and the question is: Why should you be able to edge more power out of a c-kite?
Forget the bow=poo stance thing, assume a bar with 10cm throw.

Why advanced dudes like c-kites? Probably because it doesn't escape that much to the edge of the wind window when you load up against it, so combined with a rigid structure the kite will give more energy back to the rider, resulting in more pop.
Which wouldn't mean you can depower a c-kite more through edging, rather the opposite.

as far as im aware you dont get more pop from a c kite. we ride them because they have a constant pull and give slacker lines than bow kites when unhooking.

you can edge out more of the power in a c-kite as it flies further out of the window therefore catching less wind. bow kites although you can change the angle which creates better depower when still still sit back in the window and is also why c-kites are generally better for unhooking. c-kites dont give such a constant truck pull through an unhooked trick as they give you the slack when you make a pass. a lot of people think that the c-kites give you the slack when you land but that also happens with bow kites, its a split second during the time you are in the air when it goes slack on a c that makes it different and the more explosive pop but a bow has a very constant pull with not as much slack.
eg in this pic the kite canopy is fluttering...lines are slack. anyway for a begginer a bow kite will have a greater top end for sure as edging skills wont be as good and c-kites dont have nearly as much on tap depower, but when you have a really solid edge i rekon you can hold a c as windy as a bow...if not more. imo. oh and im super glad i went to a c-kite, love them to bits

ewan

p..s pic credit paul smyth

KnutH said...

@axis:
Yes, it's safe to say that the average c-kite rider can edge better than the average bow kite dude and is generally more advanced.
But that's exactly what blurs the facts about the actual kite performance.

If you give Len10 a 9m Fuel and a 9m Crossbow/Edge/Nemesis with just 10cm bar throw, would he get much more top end out of the Fuel?
If so, explanations plz..

haha not exactly sure on the reasons but i rekon the fuel wld have a better top end if he's riding it just because of position in the window and how you edge against it

My superior intelligence for all things kite related tells me no one is right thus far.

Greenleader won't be on till tommorow, so I wouldn't bother holding your breath.

Some hybrids / SLE's respond to edging by going to the front of the window more than others, e.g Naish Helix / Cult / Bolt compared to Rebel or Switchblade.