LK,

I haven't gone for one myself yet but am toying with the idea. Gay I know but my ageing body tells me not to be stupid. Anyway, I have a DVD that shows both types of loops, i.e. hard core and the slightly easier on the body type. The easier basically shows going into a normal jump with kite positioned over head. When at the peak of the jump and the kite at 12, pull in hard with the back hand. The kite loops but more overhead as opposed to out in front of you. It looks like you still land with quite a bit of speed down wind but not quite so full on as simply pulling hard with the back hand from go to woe. I can't get the footage onto here for you but the DVD is the Complete Kiteboarding Guide (Mark Shinn) Its a couple of years old and isn't a very good DVD to be honest but it does show the kite positioning as I have said. If you can find a way to see it or something. Hopes it helps a little and good luck.

I am with you fozzy - the body is a bit older and the buzz of kiting so high that the risk of not kiting due to an injury is a hard one to overcome...

But yes my thoughts were to do a softer kite loop at the peak or nearing the peak of a jump with the kite at 12... and looping as high as possible.

Im comfortable with back loops and doing a kiteloop with them makes a lot of sense - but the sensory overload is a little daunting...

still nothing ventured nothing gained... will see if I can still type after this weekend!

she loves you echo...

Poor Relative, I'm sure I've seen her pushing weights at the local gym...bench pressing with that come hither look !!

Pull the trigger, and learn the hard way. That the only way to do it.

Ive said this a few times, and it sound stupid, but looping isnt difficult, its the landings you need to nail. If you can land hard and fast dwonwind, kiteloops are easy, regardless iof what happens to the kite.

Start underpowered, teke the kite slowly over the top, when it get to 12 get SMALL pop and wang the kite round, then just concentrate on getting the board pointing downwind and ride it out.

Ironically, when you start looping with a bit more power, you need lots of hieght from you pop to give you planty of time to get thekite back over your head. Easy peasy, now go and do it.

On a C kite please.

ok going to take the vapor out this arvo and give it a bash - its my fastest moving kite and it will have me underpowered in these winds...
Im comfortable looping the kite - just not when Im jumping... so the way to start is just a plain up and down jump - correct - or is doing a back loop easier?
Oakie nailed my hesitation area - which is the landings... now fingers crossed

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start by looping after the apex of the jump, as your coming down from the jump. this way there is the least power to be generated and as long as u get the kite up to 12 again you wont have too much speed, keep it lower if u want speed.

as you get better at it just start looping earlier and earlier, try build up to where you loop as your still going up!! ( im up to here now) and man tht gets a bit exiting!

if you want pain ***** out of it and then change your mind and do it anyway... looking down at a 13 is really fun until you land going faster than youve ever landed before.

ride at normal speed, not boosting speed and then edge hard as you bring the kite up above you, increase the tension on the back hand evenly as you do it so your on full lock by the time the kite is at its highest point and now heading straight down, then turn side on to the wind and prepare for the landing with you knees well bent. this is the easiest way to do a kiteloop.

lol front loops, some people say they are harder because you cant spot your landing as quickly as you can with backs, i find them easier and more controlable than back loops though.

i started doing these a while ago and I've pulled a few off quite good but also taken some poundings! not tried unhooked yet but I was told that when trying backroll loops they are way easier and safer unhooked, reason being is when you loop the kite you'll get stretched out flat, if you can't finish your rotation and get your feet back down you naturally stick your arm out and open up them ribs to a full force landing! it hurts.. anyway, if you do it unhooked and you get to the point where you think your screwed just let go of the bar and apparently you'll just fall and loose most your speed.

i started on my 12 link and yeah its easier in lighter wind but a gust can throw it all out. smaller kites are better as you'll get it round quicker, i find that my 7 tho can stall if you pull the bar too much, depower a bit so you can get it back up over your head might be good. commitment helps, don't mince about and bail half way

I've just gone to my first C kite (fuel) and its much different, a lot more consistent power but a F-load of it. i got scared so stopped when the wind got up!!!

also the first thing i did notice is that when you do it at the apex of a jump you will be pulled a LOT further in the opposite direction than you think you will, ie, if you jump going to the right, you'll go way more to the left than you thought you would.

Pnut

^^ i almost did one of those... by accident, its rediculusly fast and i had no idea when i was going to land so my ribs got a busting

if you want to loop get a 7m hypertype and do double loops, double loop with hypertype is less pull then doing a single loop with a 13 C

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