Another gimmick - Rotatable Footstraps

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jt737
jt737
QLD
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QLD, 418 posts
25 Jan 2010 11:42am
Another invention about to be released - Rotatable Footstraps. What do you think and would it help? Idea seems good, but will it be another gimmick.



http://sportsgear-solutions.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=27
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1908 posts
WA, 1908 posts
25 Jan 2010 10:00am
Very interesting great find
pynnee
pynnee
WA
164 posts
WA, 164 posts
25 Jan 2010 10:05am
i could def see that being a huge plus on my surfboard although i dont think it would work on my tt .
Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
25 Jan 2010 1:19pm
Wow. very hard to say if it would be good or **** without trying it. But I really like the idea. I have preferred not to use straps when surfing due to the added freedom of movement. Being able to twist feet easily wold make at least a bit of difference. Its nice to be able to move a bit forward and back on the board when strapless though. Easily worth a demo IMO. be interesting to see how they go. Sure to be some improvements since its in its first season.
jibe9
jibe9
VIC
86 posts
VIC, 86 posts
25 Jan 2010 1:24pm
a ideas man i like that in a man, but hey tell em he is dreaming
Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
25 Jan 2010 1:27pm
you tried them jibe9?
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
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25 Jan 2010 2:49pm
jibe9 said...

a ideas man i like that in a man, but hey tell em he is dreaming


What's with trolling a kite forum, mr. windsurfer? It's sad enough how much time legitimate kiters spend on here but when you're not even a participant in the sport ... cheap thrills I guess?
Bully
Bully
WA
170 posts
WA, 170 posts
25 Jan 2010 2:08pm
jibe9 said...

a ideas man i like that in a man, but hey tell em he is dreaming


im "an" ideas man, here are two of mine

1. stop trolling kite forum

2. look for men elsewhere



graceful
graceful
WA
773 posts
WA, 773 posts
25 Jan 2010 4:47pm
look good, as said above id be worried about how long they would last... would def like to demo a pair of these
iandvnt
iandvnt
QLD
581 posts
QLD, 581 posts
25 Jan 2010 8:19pm
there is another easy answer - you duck the straps for the wave - left or right - toesside or heelside - your choice. Unless real bumpy or real big i don't like straps - they suck.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
25 Jan 2010 7:13pm
Pretty extreme stuff.I can see why he uses a reel leash.
So when you jump and don't have friction on the board what position are your feet going to be in when you land or is it a case of save the knees but break your ankles.
I have ridden (back to the beach) bindings with a missing bolt going into the deck and once the other bolt loosens it feels very dodgy on knees and ankles.
choicey
choicey
QLD
280 posts
QLD, 280 posts
26 Jan 2010 12:20am
I can see it, but i can't feel it . me thinks gimmick. I like to move my feet forward and aft not just through a few degrees, wax seems best. Or if it's really on like he said keep your straps wide and loose.( ... and be like Elvis and move those hips baby)
Quickster
Quickster
WA
3 posts
WA, 3 posts
25 Jan 2010 11:00pm
Hi all I've never ridden strapless, just wondering how you go riding back out through the break when you need to jump the whitewater when it's 5-6ft high?
stamp
stamp
QLD
2797 posts
QLD, 2797 posts
26 Jan 2010 9:07am
Quickster said...

Hi all I've never ridden strapless, just wondering how you go riding back out through the break when you need to jump the whitewater when it's 5-6ft high?


suck your knees to your chest and ride over it. saves putting so many heel dents in your board too. if its too big to ride over then you gybe and wait for a break.

TOAD
TOAD
NSW
305 posts
NSW, 305 posts
26 Jan 2010 11:36am
AWSOME !!!! LOVE IT !!!!!!!!! WANT SOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Macca Wollongong
Macca Wollongong
NSW
295 posts
NSW, 295 posts
26 Jan 2010 4:22pm
very good idea I have always wanted some more movement on my foot pads on the tT due to my strange shaped legs, my kneecaps point rather inward
kyteryder
kyteryder
NSW
692 posts
NSW, 692 posts
26 Jan 2010 9:41pm
Currently riding on TT. But can see the advantages of rotating footstraps. Definately innovative, and seems like a great idea for directionals, giving greater flexibility. I would love to hear what Ben Wilson thinks.
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
27 Jan 2010 6:34pm
Looks like a terrible idea to me. Sand + rotating disk = nightmare. Looks like a great way to twist/roll you ankle too. Just loosen your straps right off and you have heaps of movement.
mmunzer
mmunzer
1 posts
1 posts
30 Jan 2010 1:01am
Hi,

The plate which is on the video was developed by one of my friends and I am helping him promote it.

The plate works very well and all who have tried it have been quite positive about it. He is right in the middle of going into production with it, but he has a small number of prototypes which can be tested. We can't send them out to everybody who asks, but if there is a person who is vocal and respected on this forum, we would be interested in sending a sample to him/her so that they can test it and post their experience on the forum here.

The plate should hopefully be going into production in the middle of february and should be orderable by middle-late february.

If you are interested in the plate, then you can go to the webpage www.sportsgear-solutions.com and "buy" a plate via the very simple store. You don't commit in any way and no money is charged, but we will then have your email address and will send you info when the plate is released.

Also, if you have some local shops which could be interested in stocking the plate, then send us their address/contact details via our webpage and we can send the shop a free sample for demos when we get up and running.

By the way, somebody mentioned sand, and I can assure you that it is no problem. There is lots of room between the two disks and as soon as the board hits the water all the sand is quickly rinsed out of the discs. Sand was one of the primary concerns which were taken into consideration when designing the system.

Also, somebody asked about what happens when you are in the air and your rotate your foot. There is a built in angle limit on the plate so you can't over rotate your foot. So even if you do rotate a lot in the air, then you won't hurt your foot/ankle.

Also, the suggestion was made to make your straps looser, but this means that you have a loose connection to your board. The nice thing with this system is that you have a tight connection to your board while at the same time having your foot in the correct angle.

But the best thing would be is to test it yourself (or to hear the review from somebody respected...) :-)

/Marc
sandgroper3
sandgroper3
18 posts
18 posts
30 Jan 2010 9:16am
mmunzer said...

Hi,

<SNIP>
... but if there is a person who is vocal and respected on this forum, we would be interested in sending a sample to him/her so that they can test it and post their experience on the forum here.

<SNIP>

But the best thing would be is to test it yourself (or to hear the review from somebody respected...) :-)

/Marc


Hey... I'm vocal and well respected on this forum & as it happens I broke my ankle only 2 days ago because of the fixed footstraps on my TT when I fell badly in light wind.

Theres little doubt in my mind that a rotating footstrap could have saved my ankle.

However, because the foot involved had pressure on the board at the time of injury, it would require the lock mechanism to turn with the foot after a rotational force threshold had been reached.

If the lock mechanism makes the strap completetly immovable then there is still a lot of potential for broken ankles.

I'm keen to try one & provide detailed objective feedback to my many friends, supporters, and well wishers, including the few nameless critics I have come to know and love on Seabreeze.



Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
30 Jan 2010 12:25pm
no one respects sandgroper3. besides he has hideous feet. But I could trial them for you. I would need a surf board with them though and a twin tip too if you want me to try them on that as well. I have my own boards but would rather not have to do any work swapping things over that way i could maximise my time kiting and then pimping for you. win win I say.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
30 Jan 2010 7:14pm
Whats the point of them?
graceful
graceful
WA
773 posts
WA, 773 posts
30 Jan 2010 7:25pm
TurtleHunter said...
I have ridden (back to the beach) bindings with a missing bolt going into the deck and once the other bolt loosens it feels very dodgy on knees and ankles.



today one of the bolts on my tt straps snapped, it was on my back foot and felt good when carving the face of the wave
chadster
chadster
QLD
136 posts
QLD, 136 posts
31 Jan 2010 1:15pm
take your straps off and you can put your feet where ever you want
henningsurf
henningsurf
17 posts
17 posts
7 Feb 2010 9:39am
FROM THE INVENTOR
Hello guys,
thank's for all your comments, also the negative ones.
First of all: I have not been happy about fixed straps the last 2-3 years and had a possible solution in mind. The better I got in the waves, the more I wanted a clearly better strapsystem.
So summer 2009 i pulled myself together and made a durable plastic prototype.
I was thrilled, so I improved some details and got somebody to mill my 3D files out of some plastic bricks. That is the one from my video on sportsgear-solutions.com and it is still working.
I consider myself as a very experienced wavesailor making aerial 360 and even kiteloops with this rotatable footstrap plate.

I can assure you there have been no cracks and there is no wear yet, even the rubber string is still the first one.

The molding tool is right now in work, so in a few weeks I probably have "fresh items ready" .

At the start I just wanted a solution for myself, but why not letting all you people take part in more possible fun on your boards.

I WILL DO MY BEST TO MAKE IT A GOOD PRODUCT with benefits for your surfing style, so it does NOT just end as a gimmick.

Kind regards
Henning Küntzel, Sportsgear-solutions.com
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
22 Mar 2010 12:43pm
Sick!!! The bill for advertising this dribble is in the post.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
22 Mar 2010 12:46pm
That picture perfectly categorises the type of people who would purchase this product. Unfair stereotyping? perhaps.
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
22 Mar 2010 1:23pm
That robot you have testing them out looks pretty hi-tek.
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
22 Mar 2010 2:40pm
Gimmick I'd say, go strapless or just keep your straps real loose and you will have plenty of movement.
Of course I haven't tried them but fairly sure I would rather have a solid feel for my straps rather than trying to put you foot back into a strap that has rotated.
I'm guessing you would lose a bit of drive at times without the direct fixed contact with your board.
henningsurf
henningsurf
17 posts
17 posts
4 Apr 2010 10:09am
Dear all,
since the Plate is on stock and some people have tried, there will be more reviews soon.
There are quiete positive comments on another kiteforum. So check it out.

kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2363527&p=645376

Scroll down from the start and you will find pictures and comments.

An opinion can first be objective when you have tried the stuff.

Regards Henning
jt737
jt737
QLD
418 posts
QLD, 418 posts
4 Apr 2010 7:01pm
Henning kindly sent me a set to try after expressing interest, but due not having a kite surfboard to install, have passed the set on to another and hope a review will be out as soon as we get some decent wind here in SE QLD.
Initial impressions are a lot of thought and effort has gone into it. Installation documentation is comprehensive and with clear colour photos.
Looking forward to trying it.
NB - I have no affiliation with product.



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